Saw what looked like a wright streetlite parked up at the side of the Silverline garage. Any ideas whether it's a loan or another new purchase?
There are 2 there currently with another 2 due I believe. I suspect they have brought them but not entirely sure.
Heres a link to a couple of photos I took yesterday - http://www.flickr.com/photos/62291103@N08/7844736326/in/photostream/
Thanks for the info. I guess these will be to replace some of the solos? Hope they get painted into the current livery. Will have to try and catch one of these.
Nope, I believe they are for a new contract. I dont think they will be on normal services much, but you never know!
They were advertising for bus drivers in the Evening Mail two weeks ago for a "new contract".
Quote from: suavegarv on August 25, 2012, 11:37:55 PM
They were advertising for bus drivers in the Evening Mail two weeks ago for a "new contract".
And now have stickers on the buses advertising for bus drivers 'immediately'.
Anyone know what this new contract is? Could they not use some of their coach drivers whilst they wait for the vacancies to be filled?
Quote from: 966 on August 26, 2012, 12:09:21 PM
Anyone know what this new contract is? Could they not use some of their coach drivers whilst they wait for the vacancies to be filled?
Land Rover I believe, not too sure though. The coach drivers I suspect have enough work at the moment, which is why Silverline are advertising for drivers 'immediately'.
Interesting, because on the Network West Midlands service change page (ok, not always the most factually accurate I know!), it says that the NXWM 850 works service (Birmingham to Land Rover) is being withdrawn, and that "Some early morning/late evening (37) journeys extended to Land Rover to cover for withdrawn 850 service".
Could it actually be Silverline operating these 37 variants instead, or maybe just a new service?
Quote from: Stu on August 26, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
Interesting, because on the Network West Midlands service change page (ok, not always the most factually accurate I know!), it says that the NXWM 850 works service (Birmingham to Land Rover) is being withdrawn, and that "Some early morning/late evening (37) journeys extended to Land Rover to cover for withdrawn 850 service".
Could it actually be Silverline operating these 37 variants instead, or maybe just a new service?
No I dont think so. They already operate a shuttle service for them, to a car park near the airport.
They operate a shuttle around the Solihull plant to the airport.
They probably have got the contract at the Jag, Castle Brom plant to Star City.
Quote from: DC3 on August 26, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
They operate a shuttle around the Solihull plant to the airport.
They probably have got the contract at the Jag, Castle Brom plant to Star City.
Thats the one!
Thanks for the info guys! ;)
I wonder if we'll see some sort of Jaguar Land Rover livery, like the Blythe Valley Purple one.
No I dont think so. They already operate a shuttle service for them, to a car park near the airport.
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The shuttle is being run by the Coach side of the business at the moment, so the buses must be to take over from them then if these are for the Land Rover. Silverline seem to be expanding slowly as they have 2 new Scania Coaches at the Depot which have been delivered recently and I don't think any vehicles have left the fleet. Although none of the new vehicles that have arrived recently are in Silverline livery which is a shame, they're just plain white!
Quote from: 966 on August 26, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
Although none of the new vehicles that have arrived recently are in Silverline livery which is a shame, they're just plain white!
So?
Why's that a shame. I'm sure they'll be repainted before entering service. The Enviro200's were in white when new.
Quote from: Michael on August 26, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
Quote from: 966 on August 26, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
Although none of the new vehicles that have arrived recently are in Silverline livery which is a shame, they're just plain white!
So?
Why's that a shame. I'm sure they'll be repainted before entering service. The Enviro200's were in white when new.
The Enviro's were repainted as they were for the Blythe Valley Shuttle along with the Mercedes Coach which was repainted for the B90. However, when they had the 'S' reg solo's one was partially repainted and the other is still in its original livery which looks rather 'tatty' and the 2 new Scania's have been in use since April and are still in White. The reason why I think it's a shame if they stay in white is because I think its much better seeing a bus in its operators livery. I personally think that the Silverline livery is quite good and therefore hope thay they do get painted before entering service.
Quote from: 966 on August 26, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
No I dont think so. They already operate a shuttle service for them, to a car park near the airport.
The shuttle is being run by the Coach side of the business at the moment, so the buses must be to take over from them then if these are for the Land Rover. Silverline seem to be expanding slowly as they have 2 new Scania Coaches at the Depot which have been delivered recently and I don't think any vehicles have left the fleet. Although none of the new vehicles that have arrived recently are in Silverline livery which is a shame, they're just plain white!
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Correct, that shuttle is being ran by the coaches, including the 2 Scanias. These new buses will be for the new contract.
They have had some vehicles leave the fleet - both W218CDN and T69JBA went for scrap i believe and YN53EWG (if thats the right reg) was sold.
Thanks for the info.
Quote from: 966 on August 26, 2012, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 26, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
Quote from: 966 on August 26, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
Although none of the new vehicles that have arrived recently are in Silverline livery which is a shame, they're just plain white!
So?
Why's that a shame. I'm sure they'll be repainted before entering service. The Enviro200's were in white when new.
The Enviro's were repainted as they were for the Blythe Valley Shuttle along with the Mercedes Coach which was repainted for the B90. However, when they had the 'S' reg solo's one was partially repainted and the other is still in its original livery which looks rather 'tatty' and the 2 new Scania's have been in use since April and are still in White. The reason why I think it's a shame if they stay in white is because I think its much better seeing a bus in its operators livery. I personally think that the Silverline livery is quite good and therefore hope thay they do get painted before entering service.
Yeah I know they were repainted and I also know that the Blythe Valley contract demands dedicated vehicles, but what I'm saying is, they were in white originally, and because these new ones are for another contract, I think that there is every possibility that these will be sprayed before service.
There are now 4 streetlites parked up at their depot.
noted 4 streetlites on the Jaguar Castle Bromwich shuttle in 10 mins at star city this morning MX62ANR/AOG/AXH/AXN. Tony
One of the streetlites has just come out of Lyndon Road and turned left towards birmingham.
There was no livery on the side just the silverline name and it was showing destination "sorry not on service"
The two irizar coaches can be seen regularly on the Land Rover car park shuttle heading up towards birmingham airport.
spotted a streetlite on church road,yardley heading towards the swan island yesterday morning {monday} around 8:50 ish and one today {tuesday} going down moat lane,yardley at around the same. on both days they buses were displaying "not in service".didnt expect to see them so unable to clock their registrations.
I would like to see Silverline get a few more of the services; the S2 and S3 for certain. Silverline are a small but smart operator; they have chosen buses I favour so only if they could operate the S2 and S3....
Imagine if Arriva went to the next level and won the S2/S3 contract...
Whoever wins it, I'd like to see the Solihull Signature brand kept in some form.
Streetlite out on the 36 today...
...spotted it at 9:35 leaving Mole Street,Sparkbrook. Not sure whether the others have had ticket machines installed as one passed me in Yardley on Monday morning without one.
There was a Streetlite running on the 36 yesterday and today also.
Quote from: suavegarv on October 17, 2012, 11:10:24 PM
Not sure whether the others have had ticket machines installed as one passed me in Yardley on Monday morning without one.
2 now have ticket machines fitted I believe. AXH and ANR, which was on the S10 today
Am I right in thinking that Silverline are the first operators of Streetlites in the West Midlands area?
Seen today in Covent Garden was two day old YR13 POJ
http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YR13POJ.html
Wasn't expecting to find two day old vehicles from the West Midlands while in Luton!
LOL, Tony, I saw YR13POJ yesterday as well, with that CBSO windscreen sticker - but at the Bagot Arms, Tyburn!! It must have been on its way down to the M6 junction @ Castle Vale. It was right behind Yardley Travel's T72WWV on route 28, another novelty!
One of Silverlines new vehicles has arrived, an enviro 200 in all over blue livery
QuoteS101 LBL & S107 LBL are to leave the fleet this month to be replaced by two new vehicles
From the main site fleetchanges list.
S107LBL is frequently used on the 36 service along with the 'newer' 56-plate Solos (though I saw one of the Streetlites on there today), so I wonder whether Silverline have purchased two Enviro200s to upgrade this route?
The last time I saw S101LBL (it's not really difficult to miss) was on Thursday I think.
Quote from: Stu on June 01, 2013, 03:41:47 PM
QuoteS101 LBL & S107 LBL are to leave the fleet this month to be replaced by two new vehicles
From the main site fleetchanges list.
S107LBL is frequently used on the 36 service along with the 'newer' 56-plate Solos (though I saw one of the Streetlites on there today), so I wonder whether Silverline have purchased two Enviro200s to upgrade this route?
The last time I saw S101LBL (it's not really difficult to miss) was on Thursday I think.
S101 LBL was actually withdrawn from service about a month ago. I've noticed yesterday and today not many solos being around, with 2 streetlites on the S10 yesterday and a streetlite and and enviro on the 36 today, so I assume 101/7 have now left.
I was told by a driver this morning the other one is due next week, so I suppose they should both be out next week, maybe the first will e out on Monday. And as you say I expect them to be on the 36 but you never know!
Sorry, I actually meant I last saw S107LBL on Thursday, not S101!
On the 36, saw a Streetlite this morning in Sparkbrook, and YJ56APK in Acocks Green this evening (showing just '10' on the rear blind)!
Quote from: Stu on June 03, 2013, 07:59:05 PM
On the 36, saw a Streetlite this morning in Sparkbrook, and YJ56APK in Acocks Green this evening (showing just '10' on the rear blind)!
The new enviro was on there this evening, thought it was a short wheelbase but it seems to be the same length as the others (one of which was on the S10 this evening).
The '10' was on APK on Saturday, on the S10. I think it had 36 on and the Driver just changed the numbers.
Saw a blue Enviro200 this morning on the 36 in Acocks Green, couldn't get the reg number as I was getting on the 37 at the time.
It appears to be the same colour as the Enviro200s used on the S9; wonder if this will receive branding for that route, and then the two older ones (though only 3 years old!) will go onto other routes?
YN13 GDY on the 36 today http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YN13GDY.html
Quote from: Tony on June 06, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
YN13 GDY on the 36 today http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YN13GDY.html
The other one - GBY, was at depot this afternoon
Quote from: neale95 on June 06, 2013, 09:31:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 06, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
YN13 GDY on the 36 today http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YN13GDY.html
The other one - GBY, was at depot this afternoon
GBY was out on the 36 this morning. I don't know whether it was the light, but it looks more 'purple' than Tony's photo of GDY, same colour as the Blythe Valley Enviros.
YN13GDY out on the 36 today, haven't seen either for a while, but this one has now gained Silverline logos.
Quote from: Stu on July 12, 2013, 06:03:22 PM
YN13GDY out on the 36 today, haven't seen either for a while, but this one has now gained Silverline logos.
EDO was off the road the begining of the week and the Solos seem to be breaking down the last couple of days - 1 yesterday & 1 today i think.
Also I think S101/7 have now gone for scrap (if thats still where they're heading) - I am told a Silverline solo was being towed followed by another red solo
MX62AXH (or-N) Streetlite was on the 36 today this morning in Acocks Green, then spotted later parked up on Mole Street in Sparkbrook.
Quote from: Stu on August 07, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
MX62AXH (or-N) Streetlite was on the 36 today this morning in Acocks Green, then spotted later parked up on Mole Street in Sparkbrook.
There was one Streetlite on the S10 today aswell but couldn't get registration
Quote from: Rob4367 on August 07, 2013, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 07, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
MX62AXH (or-N) Streetlite was on the 36 today this morning in Acocks Green, then spotted later parked up on Mole Street in Sparkbrook.
There was one Streetlite on the S10 today aswell but couldn't get registration
That was one doing the 'extra' journeys (10/11am from Cranes Park) There was a streetlite on the S10 all day for a couple of days last week aswell.
Also to note, they seem to have a new livery for their coaches, one onf the 07 (LFY?) Scanias is now in allover silver.
Has anyone heard anything about changes to the 36 service in the near future?
Noticed today that the route has been taken off several bus stop flags on the Stratford Road in Sparkbrook, looks like it might be curtailed to Sparkhill, maybe turning round at Baker Street / St John's Road?
Quote from: Stu on November 15, 2013, 06:21:50 PM
Has anyone heard anything about changes to the 36 service in the near future?
Noticed today that the route has been taken off several bus stop flags on the Stratford Road in Sparkbrook, looks like it might be curtailed to Sparkhill, maybe turning round at Baker Street / St John's Road?
I'll try and find out, but that does sound possible. Although when they were cutting the route short due to roadworks, one of the drivers did mention there was no were to wait when turning around there
This appeared on VOSA yesterday:
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PD0001760/8 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between CRANES PARK and POPLAR ROAD, SOLIHULL given service number S10 effective from 01-Dec-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001760/14 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sparkbrook and Stechford given service number 36/36C effective from 01-Dec-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
Quote from: Stu on November 16, 2013, 01:45:51 PM
This appeared on VOSA yesterday:
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PD0001760/8 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between CRANES PARK and POPLAR ROAD, SOLIHULL given service number S10 effective from 01-Dec-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001760/14 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sparkbrook and Stechford given service number 36/36C effective from 01-Dec-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
finally they're doing something about the S10! But it seems drivers are not aware, I asked about the 36 this morning an the driver didnt know From NWM on twitter: @networkwm: Terminus for 36 will move to Baker Street to avoid Congestion. S10 - Last 2 journeys from Cranes Park removed, terminus now 1 way.
Quote from: neale95 on November 16, 2013, 01:57:32 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 16, 2013, 01:45:51 PM
This appeared on VOSA yesterday:
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PD0001760/8 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between CRANES PARK and POPLAR ROAD, SOLIHULL given service number S10 effective from 01-Dec-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001760/14 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sparkbrook and Stechford given service number 36/36C effective from 01-Dec-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
finally they're doing something about the S10! But it seems drivers are not aware, I asked about the 36 this morning an the driver didnt know
From NWM on twitter: @networkwm: Terminus for 36 will move to Baker Street to avoid Congestion. S10 - Last 2 journeys from Cranes Park removed, terminus now 1 way.
Thanks neale95, looks like I guessed correctly about the 36 then! So it will turn right onto St John's Road, then right again onto Baker Street then left onto the Stratford Road I suppose.
Actually, looks like I might be wrong; noticed this morning that the 36 has been added to the bus stop flag at the Warwick Road, St Johns Road stop for the 37, towards city.
Still nothing on Network West Midlands website, they told me that details would be published once route and timetables were finalised, but 1st December is 4 days away now!
Also noticed today at the St Johns Road stop on Warwick Road (towards Acocks Green), that 'Service 36 also stops here to unload only' has been added to the bus stop flag. So at this stage, I can only presume the new route in Sparkhill will be to turn right from Stratford Road into St Johns Road, then onto Baker Street, right onto Warwick Road where it terminates, then starts again by turning at the Percy Road island, loading at the Warwick Road, St John's Road stop, before turning left onto Baker Street, and then left again onto Stratford Road.
Quote from: Stu on November 27, 2013, 07:32:36 PM
Still nothing on Network West Midlands website, they told me that details would be published once route and timetables were finalised, but 1st December is 4 days away now!
Also noticed today at the St Johns Road stop on Warwick Road (towards Acocks Green), that 'Service 36 also stops here to unload only' has been added to the bus stop flag. So at this stage, I can only presume the new route in Sparkhill will be to turn right from Stratford Road into St Johns Road, then onto Baker Street, right onto Warwick Road where it terminates, then starts again by turning at the Percy Road island, loading at the Warwick Road, St John's Road stop, before turning left onto Baker Street, and then left again onto Stratford Road.
They put notices of the S10 changes on some of the buses Monday, so I thought NWM would have the changes up by now. Only slight changes to the timetable towards Solihull, with the 16:30/17:30 journeys to Solihull withdrawn monday - fridayy.
That sounds about right for the 36.
Saw POJ yesterday on Land Rover/DHL run. It's now been put into their new livery. Looks much better than plain white!
Since the recent change to the 36 service, only seem to see the Optares out on this, the E200s have vanished.
Wouldn't have hurt them to at least reprogram the front displays on the Solos, the other morning I saw one showing 'Sparkhill 36C'!
And this evening, one passed me in AG still showing 'Sparkbrook' as the destination.
Quote from: Stu on December 12, 2013, 07:27:43 PM
Since the recent change to the 36 service, only seem to see the Optares out on this, the E200s have vanished.
Wouldn't have hurt them to at least reprogram the front displays on the Solos, the other morning I saw one showing 'Sparkhill 36C'!
And this evening, one passed me in AG still showing 'Sparkbrook' as the destination.
They only seem to use the e200s when a Solo is off the road.
As to the destinations, I thought they would have. I think I might know the driver that displayed 36C ::)
They never used to have the equipment to do the Hanovers apparently, but they have changed them for the S9, although not the best, so I assume they have the equipment.
I caught the 10:30 S10 back to Sheldon this morning and I was expecting an E200 to work it but Streetlite MX62AXH rolled up.
I recorded a vid on board from The Olton Tavern to just after Tanhouse Farm Road (can't remember the actual location I stopped the video) I'll upload it after Christmas
Quote from: Rob H on December 24, 2013, 08:58:17 PM
I caught the 10:30 S10 back to Sheldon this morning and I was expecting an E200 to work it but Streetlite MX62AXH rolled up.
I recorded a vid on board from The Olton Tavern to just after Tanhouse Farm Road (can't remember the actual location I stopped the video) I'll upload it after Christmas
Might be something to do with the different duties for the Xmas period. An e200 operated the 'extras' yesterday, but a streelite made it out later - running 45 mins late, replaced by a Solo at 2pm so was quite a mix yesterday!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on December 24, 2013, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: Rob H on December 24, 2013, 08:58:17 PM
I caught the 10:30 S10 back to Sheldon this morning and I was expecting an E200 to work it but Streetlite MX62AXH rolled up.
I recorded a vid on board from The Olton Tavern to just after Tanhouse Farm Road (can't remember the actual location I stopped the video) I'll upload it after Christmas
Might be something to do with the different duties for the Xmas period. An e200 operated the 'extras' yesterday, but a streelite made it out later - running 45 mins late, replaced by a Solo at 2pm so was quite a mix yesterday!
Here is the link of the video I recorded of MX62AXH :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29l1ww_oU48
I'm away at the moment - does anybody know if new buses have arrived?
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 19, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
I'm away at the moment - does anybody know if new buses have arrived?
I didn't see any when I went passed on Monday but I'll have a look on Friday Morning for you before I meet up with family :)
Quote from: Rob H on February 19, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 19, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
I'm away at the moment - does anybody know if new buses have arrived?
I didn't see any when I went passed on Monday but I'll have a look on Friday Morning for you before I meet up with family :)
Cheers, I'm back Saturday night so won't be able to see till Monday.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 20, 2014, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: Rob H on February 19, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 19, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
I'm away at the moment - does anybody know if new buses have arrived?
I didn't see any when I went passed on Monday but I'll have a look on Friday Morning for you before I meet up with family :)
Cheers, I'm back Saturday night so won't be able to see till Monday.
I'm sure I saw a 'YX63' plated Enviro200 on the 36 this evening
Quote from: John on February 20, 2014, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 20, 2014, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: Rob H on February 19, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 19, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
I'm away at the moment - does anybody know if new buses have arrived?
I didn't see any when I went passed on Monday but I'll have a look on Friday Morning for you before I meet up with family :)
Cheers, I'm back Saturday night so won't be able to see till Monday.
I'm sure I saw a 'YX63' plated Enviro200 on the 36 this evening
There were two E200s on the 36 yesterday, but I'm sure they were the two new ones they had last year. I'm at home today, so will have a look from my window to see what comes past in a bit.
EDIT: I missed the one heading towards Heartlands as it passed 10 minutes early! Was an E200, but was liveried up so was one of the YN13 plates.
However, you're right John, the one heading towards Greet (though still showing Sparkbrook on the display!), was YX63 ZXM. (Registered 7th Feb)
Same shade of blue/purple, but missing Silverline logos.
Quote from: Stu on February 21, 2014, 10:10:05 AM
Quote from: John on February 20, 2014, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 20, 2014, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: Rob H on February 19, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 19, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
I'm away at the moment - does anybody know if new buses have arrived?
I didn't see any when I went passed on Monday but I'll have a look on Friday Morning for you before I meet up with family :)
Cheers, I'm back Saturday night so won't be able to see till Monday.
I'm sure I saw a 'YX63' plated Enviro200 on the 36 this evening
There were two E200s on the 36 yesterday, but I'm sure they were the two new ones they had last year. I'm at home today, so will have a look from my window to see what comes past in a bit.
EDIT: I missed the one heading towards Heartlands as it passed 10 minutes early! Was an E200, but was liveried up so was one of the YN13 plates.
However, you're right John, the one heading towards Greet (though still showing Sparkbrook on the display!), was YX63 ZXM. (Registered 7th Feb)
Same shade of blue/purple, but missing Silverline logos.
thanks for this. I was told they are due three new ones to replace solos so they must be starting to arrive
YN13GBY is the other E200 on the 36 today, just spotted it passing my house.
Always good to see a small operator keeping their fleet modern.
Still have access to my old vehicle reg lookup, this is what it tells me about YX63ZXM:
Make: ALEXANDER DENNIS VIN: SFD1D1AR6DGY14147 Engine Model Code: ISBE
Model: ENVIRO 200 8.9M DART Date: 2014 BHP: 138.1
Fuel Type: DIESEL Date Registered: 07/02/2014 Gross Weight: 12580
CC: 0 Drive Type:
Smaller than their other E200s (which are the 10.7m model)
YX63ZXM was out on the S10 today
Quote from: Rob H on February 27, 2014, 10:23:21 PM
YX63ZXM was out on the S10 today
was on there yesterday too! Hopefully I'll get on it soon!
Which of the Solos is being withdrawn then? I'm sure I've seen YJ56APU the last couple of days out on the 36, so probably not that one!
How many buses does the S10 use, 1 or 2?
I know the 36 and the S9 both use two buses, and the S10 is their only other public service route, just curious as to how many buses they need altogether.
Quote from: Stu on February 28, 2014, 06:23:20 PM
Which of the Solos is being withdrawn then? I'm sure I've seen YJ56APU the last couple of days out on the 36, so probably not that one!
How many buses does the S10 use, 1 or 2?
I know the 36 and the S9 both use two buses, and the S10 is their only other public service route, just curious as to how many buses they need altogether.
I am told all solos are still there - I drive past last week and didn't see APK but am told it's still there. 2 more buses are due next few weeks apparently.
The S10 requires 1 bus all day with another between 10 and 11:30, this is normally the bus that comes of the s9. Saturday is usually 2 solos although I'm waiting to see what they put on tomorrow as we've had the new enviro the past couple of days
MX62ANR out on the S9 today
Here is a pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/12904916234/
Also here is a pic of YX63ZXM on the S10 on Friday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/12904084245/
Thanks Matt and Rob for the info and pics!
I remember now, the S9 is half-hourly at peak-times and hourly off-peak.
Quote from: Stu on March 03, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Thanks Matt and Rob for the info and pics!
I remember now, the S9 is half-hourly at peak-times and hourly off-peak.
No Worries Stu :) First Time I've seen a Streetlite on the S9 so I thought I'd take a pic of it :)
Quote from: Rob H on March 03, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 03, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Thanks Matt and Rob for the info and pics!
I remember now, the S9 is half-hourly at peak-times and hourly off-peak.
No Worries Stu :) First Time I've seen a Streetlite on the S9 so I thought I'd take a pic of it :)
I don't work in Solihull anymore so don't get to see much what's happening bus-wise round there now. Last time I caught the S9 was when NXWM operated it!
I've seen the Streetlites occasionally when they've been used on the 36, that's all.
how come the S10 has different allocations ive seen it on
Optare Solo
Enviro 200
Wright Streetlite
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on April 02, 2014, 06:01:25 PM
how come the S10 has different allocations ive seen it on
Optare Solo
Enviro 200
Wright Streetlite
Maybe because one of the types are not avaliable at the time so another type is used (All are similar sizes and capacities so all would be suitable)
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on April 02, 2014, 06:01:25 PM
how come the S10 has different allocations ive seen it on
Optare Solo
Enviro 200
Wright Streetlite
You missed out the coach!
It gets what its given! The 'extra' buse of a morning is the bus that comes of the S9 - usually one of the branded enviro 200s. It seems to have the new, short enviro 200 on it most of the time now. Saturday, used to be 2 solos, but now it can be anything. When the remaining 2 enviros arrive - I think they have 2 more on order! it should become just enviros, with a streetlite maybe for the 'extra' on a Saturday.
here is the 63 reg envrio at the depot normally on S10 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/13950878754/
It's good to see Silverline drivers still cutting off the route. Even when they're not late and have passengers on board!
E200 SN60EDO was parked at claribels garage today in lea hall
pic of mine on flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14096481367/
@nxbusfan1999 They go there for safety checks/MOTs I believe. They used to use Jonhsons, don't know of try still do
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on May 27, 2014, 05:55:03 PM
@nxbusfan1999 They go there for safety checks/MOTs I believe. They used to use Jonhsons, don't know of try still do
I thought the mot test centre was in garrets green off Garrets green lane
E200 YX63ZXM new to silverline
http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YX63ZXM.html
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 12, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
E200 YX63ZXM new to silverline
http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YX63ZXM.html
It was new to them earlier this year (sometime between September 2013 and March of this year), hence the '63' plate, not a '14' plate
Quote from: John on June 12, 2014, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 12, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
E200 YX63ZXM new to silverline
http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YX63ZXM.html
It was new to them earlier this year (sometime between September 2013 and March of this year), hence the '63' plate, not a '14' plate
Registered 7th Feb:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=718.msg86692#msg86692
YR13POJ
MX62ANR
MX62AOG
MX62AXH
YN13GBY
MX62AXN
were on todays JLR shuttles from Birmingham airport long stay car park 2
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 23, 2014, 09:21:53 PM
YR13POJ
MX62ANR
MX62AOG
MX62AXH
YN13GBY
MX62AXN
were on todays JLR shuttles from Birmingham airport long stay car park 2
I notice most of the buses/coaches are making use of the new bus road
YN07LFL was operating Air India crew coach
Contract losses I assume?
PD0001760/16 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Solihull Rail Station and Blythe Valley Business Park given service number S9 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
PD0001760/17 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham International Station and Blythe Valley Business Park given service number B90 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Contract losses I assume?
PD0001760/16 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Solihull Rail Station and Blythe Valley Business Park given service number S9 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
PD0001760/17 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham International Station and Blythe Valley Business Park given service number B90 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
Or they might just scrap the routes? I know they should keep a service to the Park and Tesco/Notcutts really but does the S9 carry that many passengers? The B90 I believe is dead
If push really came to shove with the S9, surely the S4 could be extended to first serve Notcutts/Blythe Valley, and then use Kineton Lane / Illshaw Heath Road to get back to Cheswick Green and follow it's current line of route, creating a big loop and effectively replacing the S9. They both follow the same route from Stratford Road to Solihull Station anyway. Then again would there be any point if the S9 loadings really are that bad?
Saw a Coach operating the S9 this morning.
It would be a shame if Blythe Valley were cancelling the contract because they didn't feel it was worth funding anymore, especially while there are other businesses in Solihull, such as nPower, getting 'on board' with the Smart Network Smart Choices scheme and encouraging employees to use public transport to cut down on car journeys.
see: http://www.centro.org.uk/about-us/news/2014/travel-plans-spark-fewer-car-journeys-by-power-firm-staff/
But then, as for passenger loadings, I suppose its a case of "use it or lose it", or if passengers are only using the S9 to get from Solihull to Blossomfield Road or Stratford Road, then whats in it for Blythe Valley? Maybe they're hoping Centro will step in and provide a service for them 'for free'!
As for Silverline, my hope is that they can bid for some tendered work elsewhere from Centro, as it would be a shame to lose a quality small operator, reduced to only operating on the 36 and S10!
Silverline's YJ56APU Solo appears to have a faulty destination display, as I saw it in Acocks Green earlier on the 36 service, with a flickering spilt scrolling front display showing '363636363636' :o
The s9 is to be a shuttle bus between Solihull & Blythe Valley for Blythe Valley empolyees only.
At least one of the Envrios has had the S9 banding removed, seen on the Coventry Rd this morning coming of the DHL/Drax. It may still have the 'Blythe Vallet Park' at the top though. Ill Keep an eye out!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on September 02, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
At least one of the Envrios has had the S9 banding removed, seen on the Coventry Rd this morning coming of the DHL/Drax. It may still have the 'Blythe Vallet Park' at the top though. Ill Keep an eye out!
SN60EDL has had its S9 Branding removed Matt seen it on Thursday and it does have Blythe Valley Park still above the windows seen it on the S10 :)
Are the Optare Solos still used now? Never see them on the S10.
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 24, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Are the Optare Solos still used now? Never see them on the S10.
Mainly used on the 36 now. ZXM seems to be theregular on the S10. Solos occasionally appear on the S10 Saturday 'extras', but Saturdays seem to be mainly Solo free!
Thanks Matt!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on October 24, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 24, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Are the Optare Solos still used now? Never see them on the S10.
Mainly used on the 36 now. ZXM seems to be theregular on the S10. Solos occasionally appear on the S10 Saturday 'extras', but Saturdays seem to be mainly Solo free!
True of the 36 on Saturday also, nearly always the Blythe Valley E200s used, no Solos.
The only West Midlands vehicle I found at the show was this 16 seat coach for Silverline
http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YN64CAV.html
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
The only West Midlands vehicle I found at the show was this 16 seat coach for Silverline
http://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YN64CAV.html
Thought they had changed their minds about these! Believe they are to replace the 22 seaters
There was a serious RTA earlier on Wharfedale Road, at the junction with Rushey Lane. Police have closed the road there.
No-one appears to have informed the driver of the 36, as he was sat there with his hazards on as I came out of the Royal Mail building about 5:40pm. Probably will be delayed a bit, unless he can get his Solo turned around!
Rode the S10 for the first time today on their 63 reg E200; really good service. However I see Silverline are losing the 36 - will they be starting up on any other route to make up for it, or will it just see off the Solos? This will mean I assume the only public service Silverline will run is the S10.
Would still like them to take over on the S2/S4 considering they were excellent on the S3 Evening/Sunday services, and have a local garage ideal for if anything goes wrong.
I guess, like The Green Bus, they are finding private contract work to be better business.
When I was on the 900 the other day, as my bus was waiting to turn right onto the Coventry Road (at the junction with Damson Parkway) I saw one of their coaches full of what I can only presume were JLR workers crossing past. And one of their purple E200s was heading down Damson Parkway the other way.
Contrast that to the half-empty Solos and E200s I normally see on the 36. If Diamond outbid them for that contract, they must be desperate for contracted work, good luck to them!
It is a shame really though, as compared to some other smaller operators, Silverline had quite a modern fleet.
Silverline do have their problems, but seem a lot better since ther merger a couple of years ago. The S10 also has its problems; as its my local route I notice these more often. However, due to work I rarley use the service now. With the loss of the 36 (unless they are able to keep it, the way they did with the S10) they could always trail putting the extra bus back on the s10. I was surprised to see on Friday when I used the bus that the 10.28 & 10:58 to solihull were packed! They may also choose to stick more buses on the JLR contract as I believe they subcontract some of the work out to B'ham international/claribels & Wiksons
I'm pretty sure that IGO/WMSNT already have an eye on the S10 and will snap that up when it comes up for tender.
Quote from: Stu on March 01, 2015, 03:34:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that IGO/WMSNT already have an eye on the S10 and will snap that up when it comes up for tender.
You may Diamond have an interest in it as well to add to the Signature network
Quote from: Winston on March 01, 2015, 03:38:46 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 01, 2015, 03:34:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that IGO/WMSNT already have an eye on the S10 and will snap that up when it comes up for tender.
You may Diamond have an interest in it as well to add to the Signature network
Diamond (Central Connect) did win the contract for it a couple of years ago, but lost it due to Silverline's part commercial registration.
Igo, if they did win the contract, I think will be the ones who improve the service. I say this due the the fact they increased the frequcney of the S1 on a Sunday, even though it doesnt carry they best loads, from what I have seen
I'm sure that the reason they increased the Sunday S1 was on an hourly frequency buses had a 40 min or so layover between each trip. They have to pay the driver so may aswell try and get some revenue. However, as this was subsidised an increase to 30 mins frequency would presumably be commercial, does this mean Centro have removed the subsidy?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 01, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
I'm sure that the reason they increased the Sunday S1 was on an hourly frequency buses had a 40 min or so layover between each trip. They have to pay the driver so may aswell try and get some revenue. However, as this was subsidised an increase to 30 mins frequency would presumably be commercial, does this mean Centro have removed the subsidy?
Ahh yes, true, but if it is now fully commercial it shows they are willing to try!
They didn't try and keep the 36:
PD0001760/14 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Sparkbrook and Stechford given service number 36/36C effective from 26-Apr-2015.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 01, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
I'm sure that the reason they increased the Sunday S1 was on an hourly frequency buses had a 40 min or so layover between each trip. They have to pay the driver so may aswell try and get some revenue. However, as this was subsidised an increase to 30 mins frequency would presumably be commercial, does this mean Centro have removed the subsidy?
If I recall correctly, when NXWM operated the Sunday S1 journeys, it used to interwork with the 966? That was how they got around the long layover times I think.
If the Sunday tender contract was for an hourly service, IGO wouldn't have been able to get more money of Centro for operating it half-hourly, so I can only presume this can be considered 'part-subsidised' and IGO must be earning enough to justify operating the extra journeys commercially. Though looking at the Sunday timetable, it looks like only one bus is used anyway, so there's not really any extra cost involved.
Anyway, back to Silverline, I didn't realise that they operated the S10 commercially, so it must be worthwhile for them to continue running it.
Quote from: Stu on March 02, 2015, 07:46:49 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 01, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
I'm sure that the reason they increased the Sunday S1 was on an hourly frequency buses had a 40 min or so layover between each trip. They have to pay the driver so may aswell try and get some revenue. However, as this was subsidised an increase to 30 mins frequency would presumably be commercial, does this mean Centro have removed the subsidy?
Anyway, back to Silverline, I didn't realise that they operated the S10 commercially, so it must be worthwhile for them to continue running it.
Partially commercial when they registered it, not sure if its still the same
Interesting to see that the 36 is being cancelled. Why is this? I thought it was a Centro subsidised service. Also ,the reference to their merger. Who did they merge with and when? How come IGO are suddenly making their presence felt?
Quote from: suavegarv on March 06, 2015, 07:23:27 AM
Interesting to see that the 36 is being cancelled. Why is this? I thought it was a Centro subsidised service.
Diamond are taking over the tender.
Looks as if the solos are on their way out - only saw one out on the 36 yesterday, and could only see the one parked up last night
Yeah, there's been at least one E200 out on 36 most of this week.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on April 25, 2015, 11:31:37 AM
Looks as if the solos are on their way out - only saw one out on the 36 yesterday, and could only see the one parked up last night
3 Solos have been sold to New Adventure Travel and have been replaced with new E200's
Quote from: 3Q on April 26, 2015, 10:39:06 AM
3 Solos have been sold to New Adventure Travel and have been replaced with new E200's
1 of them is SK15GXX which is on the S10 today seen at The Wheatsheaf at 11:15/11:20 heading for Solihull.
have any of the other envrio's gone as they only run S10 1 bus with 1 extra bus in the morning what do the other envrios do
Quote from: Solo1 on April 30, 2015, 03:29:02 PM
have any of the other envrio's gone as they only run S10 1 bus with 1 extra bus in the morning what do the other envrios do
YX63ZXM always allocated on S10
also
@3Q how many SK15 E200s silverline had?
Quote from: Solo1 on April 30, 2015, 03:29:02 PM
have any of the other envrio's gone as they only run S10 1 bus with 1 extra bus in the morning what do the other envrios do
They operate the JLR contract alongside the streetlites and coaches
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on April 30, 2015, 06:14:56 PM
They operate the JLR contract alongside the streetlites and coaches
Are they still running the S9?
Quote from: Stu on April 30, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
Are they still running the S9?
No, its now a private contract - forgot about that one! only a few journeys in one direction of a morning and a few the opposite in the afternoon
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on April 30, 2015, 07:21:03 PM
No, its now a private contract - forgot about that one! only a few journeys in one direction of a morning and a few the opposite in the afternoon
I knew it wasn't a public service any more, only available to workers. But one of the E200s being used on the 36 last week was a Blythe Valley branded one.
On a side note, it was quite amusing to see that Diamond have been using Solos on the 36 since taking it over on Monday - same buses, just different colours! :)
Quote from: Stu on April 30, 2015, 07:44:08 PM
I knew it wasn't a public service any more, only available to workers. But one of the E200s being used on the 36 last week was a Blythe Valley branded one.
On a side note, it was quite amusing to see that Diamond have been using Solos on the 36 since taking it over on Monday - same buses, just different colours! :)
Yeah, they haven't fully removed the branding yet!
That's what I thought, until I saw a primo on there today! Although to the average bus user they are a similar colour when compared to the enviros ;)
Got a photograph of SK15GXX at silverline's depot today
Link- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/17353048395/
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 03, 2015, 12:28:34 PM
Got a photograph of SK15GXX at silverline's depot today
Link- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/17353048395/
Now has Silverline logos; still allover white.
Silverline seem to have a new Mercedes minibus
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on May 17, 2015, 03:53:19 PM
Silverline seem to have a new Mercedes minibus
they do have YN64CAV which came last year
Mercedes Benz Sprinter
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 17, 2015, 04:21:07 PM
they do have YN64CAV which came last year
Mercedes Benz Sprinter
This is a '15' plate, parked up next to it!
Also one optare, APK I think, still at the depot
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on May 17, 2015, 04:42:49 PM
This is a '15' plate, parked up next to it!
Also one optare, APK I think, still at the depot
It is APK as it was on the S10 on Friday :)
Another new enviro parked up at depot, didn't get the reg
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on June 14, 2015, 07:07:10 PM
Another new enviro parked up at depot, didn't get the reg
@Matt.N0056 are you sure its the recent E200 SK15GXX?
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 14, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
@Matt.N0056
are you sure its the recent E200 SK15GXX?
@nxwmbusfan1999 It's another one - no fleet names and was parked on the left with the coaches, GXX parked on the right with the other buses
New E200 is YY15NHN parked at back of depot
Picture- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/18829199505/in/dateposted/
Silverline have acquired a few RO15 Mercedes minibuses
RO15OJP - https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/18492581653/in/dateposted/
silverline has another 15 reg merc https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/19205019092/in/dateposted-public/
Does anyone know where have/what has happened to the quintet of Solos (the 2 S plates and the 3 56 plates) gone?
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 20, 2015, 08:58:27 PM
Does anyone know where have/what has happened to the quintet of Solos (the 2 S plates and the 3 56 plates) gone?
The June 2015 PSV Circle newsletter has YJ56 APK/APO/APU as having passed to New Adventure Travel in April 2015.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 20, 2015, 08:58:27 PM
Does anyone know where have/what has happened to the quintet of Solos (the 2 S plates and the 3 56 plates) gone?
The two S plates left around June 2013, replaced by GDY/GBY. I believe they were both scrapped, however not entirely sure.
How often does S10 run from Solihull
planning to ride whole route tomorrow
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on July 26, 2015, 05:03:06 PM
How often does S10 run from Solihull
planning to ride whole route tomorrow
@nxwmbusfan1999 On the hour, every hour from 10am till 6pm, with an extra journey at 10:30. The 4:00&5:00 during the week run back dead from Cranes Park
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on July 26, 2015, 05:18:47 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 On the hour, every hour from 10am till 6pm, with an extra journey at 10:30. The 4:00&5:00 during the week run back dead from Cranes Park
Thank you
@Matt.N0056 :)
I be getting usual bus for S10 YX63ZXM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on July 26, 2015, 05:56:58 PM
Thank you @Matt.N0056 :)
I be getting usual bus for S10 YX63ZXM
@nxwmbusfan1999 that should be on all day (on the hour from Solihull) I don't believe the buses swap during the week like on a weekend. However, EDO? Was on Friday afternoon.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on July 26, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 that should be on all day (on the hour from Solihull) I don't believe the buses swap during the week like on a weekend. However, EDO? Was on Friday afternoon.
why do they swap the buses at the weekend when the bus runs
Past the top of where the depot ia
Quote from: Solo1 on July 26, 2015, 08:46:24 PM
why do they swap the buses at the weekend when the bus runs
Past the top of where the depot ia
When a driver takes their break, they tend to keep the bus. Only 2 drivers used of a Saturday now. I suppose its quicker, easier and helps when the other bus is running late!
YX63ZXM was out today all day as usual with YN13GDY on the 10:30 from Solihull
Streetlite on the S10 for a change today. Not sure if it will stay out this afternoon though!
SN60EDO on S10 today
Currently on SN60EDO S10 to cranes park road
if im correct the S10s allocaton is
every hour at 00 e.g. 1000: YX63ZXM Enviro 200
every hour at 30 e.g. 1030: SN60EDO Enviro 200
is this right
@Matt.N0056
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 12, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
Currently on SN60EDO S10 to cranes park road
if im correct the S10s allocaton is
every hour at 00 e.g. 1000: YX63ZXM Enviro 200
every hour at 30 e.g. 1030: SN60EDO Enviro 200
is this right @Matt.N0056
SN60EDO is Blythe Valley branded, wouldn't that normally be used on the S9?
Quote from: Stu on August 12, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
SN60EDO is Blythe Valley branded, wouldn't that normally be used on the S9?
to be honest
@Stu I thought that myself and they would've put a streetlite or one of 15 plate E200s on S10
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 12, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
Currently on SN60EDO S10 to cranes park road
if im correct the S10s allocaton is
every hour at 00 e.g. 1000: YX63ZXM Enviro 200
every hour at 30 e.g. 1030: SN60EDO Enviro 200
is this right @Matt.N0056
@nxwmbusfan1999 Normally ZXM is on the :00 departure from Solihull. Any enviro of EDO/L GDY/GBY can be on the :30 depature (although there is only 1!) but tends to be EDO/L.
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 12, 2015, 07:25:11 PM
to be honest @Stu
I thought that myself and they would've put a streetlite or one of 15 plate E200s on S10
I believe both EDO/L still retain some branding. Only 1 bus is needed for the Blythe Valley Contract now, and as there are only a couple of journeys a day these can end up on the S10 or JLR.
I believe the Streetlites and 15 plate enviros are primarily for the JLR. Streetlites aren't the best on the S10 for timekeeping and poor steering lock.
Thanks
@Stu That makes more sense :)
Streetlite on S10
@Matt.N0056
SN60EDO was on the 10:30 off Solihull and YX63ZXM was out all day as usual on the S10 today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 01, 2015, 03:21:35 PM
SN60EDO was on the 10:30 off Solihull and YX63ZXM was out all day as usual on the S10 today
SN60EDO is 2nd allocation for S10 sometimes since 13/15 Plate E200's and 62 Plate Streetlite's operate on JLR Shuttles From Birmingham Airport
@Dylanbusboy45
Ok thanks for the information
@nxwmbusfan1999
Two new Mercedes coaches parked up in depot this evening. Seem to be using the 'Landflight' name, over Silverline, didn't realise who owned it first!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on September 02, 2015, 06:48:57 PM
Two new Mercedes coaches parked up in depot this evening. Seem to be using the 'Landflight' name, over Silverline, didn't realise who owned it first!
mini coaches or Tourismos
@Matt.N0056
Visited the depot and photographed both BF65 plate Merc Tourismos
BF65HTT - https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/21098861492/in/dateposted/
BF65HTU - https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/20486317014/in/dateposted/
@Matt.N0056 Do you know the fares for S10 by any chance?
Might try and ride YX63ZXM from Solihull
@nxwmbusfan1999 normal fares i.e £2.20 Adult single, £1.10 Child. They no longer accept nxwm passes with sumplement fare
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on September 21, 2015, 07:26:08 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 normal fares i.e £2.20 Adult single, £1.10 Child. They no longer accept nxwm passes with sumplement fare
Thank you
@Matt.N0056
@nxwmbusfan1999 Happy to help! :)
Rode YX63ZXM on 10am S10 from Solihull
Really nice sounding bus
for some reason after I photographed ZXM I got on bus to pay my fare and driver said "Why you photographing the bus?"
The S10s are currently running together, one is a streetlite.
Quote from: trident4370 on September 23, 2015, 12:10:58 PM
The S10s are currently running together, one is a streetlite.
@trident4370 if it was at the time of your post, there should only be one bus on there... Unless one was extremely late
Just remembered; there was an incident by the terminus (60 was diverted) so could have been to do with that!
I must admit I know nothing about the route other than it is usually enviro 200! Yes at the time I posted I saw a streetlite and a 63 plate? Enviro 200 running in Convoy past Solihull Hospital. One could always have been NIS with the wrong display up of course.
Quote from: trident4370 on September 23, 2015, 06:08:22 PM
I must admit I know nothing about the route other than it is usually enviro 200! Yes at the time I posted I saw a streetlite and a 63 plate? Enviro 200 running in Convoy past Solihull Hospital. One could always have been NIS with the wrong display up of course.
Yes, quite possibly
Quote from: trident4370 on September 23, 2015, 06:08:22 PM
I must admit I know nothing about the route other than it is usually enviro 200! Yes at the time I posted I saw a streetlite and a 63 plate? Enviro 200 running in Convoy past Solihull Hospital. One could always have been NIS with the wrong display up of course.
@trident4370 YX63ZXM is main bus for S10 which runs every hour from 10am
Then 1030 S10 from Solihull is E200 SN60EDO
But it can be a substitute occasionally like you saw a streetlite today
@trident4370
@Dylanbusboy45 Streetlites are on JLR shuttles every day of week between Birmingham Airport and JLR Elmdon.
pretty sure this is second time a streetlite has appeared on S10 since YX63ZXM/SN60EDO are mostly on it
Ok thanks for the info
@nxwmbusfan1999
Thanks for clearing that up.
Silverline have a new addition to fleet
Another Mercedes Sprinter same one as YN64CAV
@Matt.N0056 can you confirm
Quote from: James4368 on October 08, 2015, 06:15:33 PM
Silverline have a new addition to fleet
Another Mercedes Sprinter same one as YN64CAV
@Matt.N0056 can you confirm
@James4368 looks like it, did see it at the depot the other day, also seen on social media.
@Matt.N0056 I saw it from depot 10 minutes ago
Whilst on 957 home from college
Scania Irizar PB
YN07LFL and YN07LFY now been acquired by Freestone Coaches (Norfolk)
@Matt.N0056 New vehicle
Is YN65AXO Mercedes Turas
Just arrived at depot 1100
(I try and get a photograph at depot Sunday)
Streetlite MX62AOG on S10 today
Solo YJ56APK is still at Silverline's yard
one of my flickr mates seen it at depot
YN13GDY was on today's Blythe valley shuttle
Solo YJ56APK on S10 today (1030 from Solihull)
YN13GBY on 1030 from Solihull and YX63ZXM out all day today.
@Dylanbusboy45 YX63ZXM is allocated bus for S10 for every hour from 10am
1030 S10 usually covered by any E200 from Blythe business park shuttle
There's a plain White Volvo Plaxton Panther parked at Silverline's depot
update:
Emailed Silverline
its currently on loan for a few days as one of BF65 Tourismos is getting repaired
Does anyone on this forum know what other services that Silverline operate other than the route S10 service. I know that the S10 is their only registered public bus service but i believe that they operate some other private contracts and shuttle bus services. If anyone knows anything else about these services that would be great. Thank you.
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 03:22:09 PM
Does anyone on this forum know what other services that Silverline operate other than the route S10 service. I know that the S10 is their only registered public bus service but i believe that they operate some other private contracts and shuttle bus services. If anyone knows anything else about these services that would be great. Thank you.
@countryliner They only do 1 public route - S10 Cranes Park - Solihull (YX63ZXM E200 Main Allocation)
They do Blythe Valley Business Park shuttle which I think that's S9
for private contracts they mostally do JLR shuttles between Birmingham Airport and Elmdon JLR plant and some of coach fleet sometimes help out
@James4368 - Thanks for the info. Is the Blythe Valley Business Park Shuttle (Route S9) available for the public to use or do you have to have a certain pass to use this service. Also do they publish the timetable for this service anywhere.
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
@James4368 - Thanks for the info. Is the Blythe Valley Business Park Shuttle (Route S9) available for the public to use or do you have to have a certain pass to use this service. Also do they publish the timetable for this service anywhere.
@countryliner I don't think it is available for general public and not sure about pass or timetable bit though
Quote from: James4368 on January 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
@countryliner I don't think it is available for general public and not sure about pass or timetable bit though
The Blythe valley is now a private contract. A couple of journeys in in the morning and out of an evening. There may be some lunch time aswell, but not 100% sure
@Matt.N0056 @James4368 - Thanks for the info.
I have done some research on google on the internet and i have found out that Silverline operate two different Blythe Valley Business Park shuttle bus services (the route B90 service and the route S9 service).
Route B90. This route operates between Birmingham International Airport Railway Station and the Blythe Valley Business Park.
Route S9. This route operates between Solihull Railway Station and the Blythe Valley Business Park.
Here are the timetables for these bus services.
Route B90 Timetable. - http://www.blythevalleypark.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Birmingham_StationTimetable.pdf
Route S9 Timetable. http://www.blythevalleypark.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Solihull_StationTimetable.pdf
Both the route B90 service and the route S9 service are open to all members of the public and are completely free bus services.
@countryliner 'a free service, Closed door'. They used to be available to the general public however they are no longer. They don't display the route number either, just Blythe Valley Park, Solihull Station Shuttle, for example.
@Matt.N0056 - Thanks for the info. So who can use these services now. Is it just for staff that work at the Blythe Valley Business Park. However i see that on the timetables it says "a free to travel closed door service" but it is also mentioned on their website on the page about how to get to the Blythe Valley Business Park so i would of thought that these are free services that are open to the public or anyone who wants to use them.
Quote from: countryliner on January 07, 2016, 02:46:15 PM
@Matt.N0056 - Thanks for the info. So who can use these services now. Is it just for staff that work at the Blythe Valley Business Park. However i see that on the timetables it says "a free to travel closed door service" but it is also mentioned on their website on the page about how to get to the Blythe Valley Business Park so i would of thought that these are free services that are open to the public or anyone who wants to use them.
I guess the best way to find out is to go to Solihull rail station and try and get on the bus and see what happens lol ;D
@Stu - Yes. That is a very good idea. I will try to do that soon and see what happens.
They are only available to special workers or visitors pass holders. General public are not able to travel on these services.
@Steveminor - Thank you for confirming. Much appreciated. So did these routes (B90 and S9) ever used to be public services or have they always been just for staff and workers to use.
Yes the s9 used to be operated by nxwm until silver line won the contract. It the ran for some time as a public service under silverline. The b90 only ran for a short time as a public service until becoming a closed door contract.
I believe the S9 was the 166 originally? I think it was 166 anyway. Pre Solihull network review.
@Steveminor @MW - Thanks for the info. Do you know why they changed these from public to private bus services.
Quote from: countryliner on January 08, 2016, 03:01:06 PM
@Steveminor @MW - Thanks for the info. Do you know why they changed these from public to private bus services.
So you can't catch it
@MW Yeah it did used to be the 166 - used to have two Wright Crusaders, 594 and 595, painted up in purple for it. They did occasionally drift onto other routes (S2/3 etc.). That seems a while ago now! Then 1415 and 1467 got put into purple after the B6s left only for NX to come off the S9.
Quote from: countryliner on January 08, 2016, 03:01:06 PM
@Steveminor @MW - Thanks for the info. Do you know why they changed these from public to private bus services.
Well why would you want to catch it unless you worked at Blythe Valley? Might as well make it totally private for staff only. If it's paid for by the Business Park (and I suspect it is), why should they be paying for just anyone to use it? You seem to forget that if it was open to anyone, they would probably have to accept concessions etc, why would they want to bother with all the admin behind the scenes. Make it simple, staff bus for staff only. Simples.
@Cheese @Liberator9 @MW - Thanks for the info. I see what you mean. However if they were public services they might be useful for people who need to visit the Blythe Valley Business Park but do not work there.
Quote from: countryliner on January 08, 2016, 04:36:45 PM
@Cheese @Liberator9 @MW - Thanks for the info. I see what you mean. However if they were public services they might be useful for people who need to visit the Blythe Valley Business Park but do not work there.
Take it you haven't seen the kind of offices at Blythe Valley. Very much doubt anyone would be going there by any other means than by car.
@Cheese - Yes i do see what you mean. However i am sure that there are some members of the public who do not have cars but still need to visit the Blythe Valley Business Park.
Unlikely enough to warrant a bus service right into the estate. X20 stops close enough
@Kevin - Thanks for the info. So is the route X20 service now the only public bus service that goes near the Blythe Valley Business Park or is there any other routes that stop nearby as well.
APK is now up for sale
@Matt.N0056 - That is interesting to hear. Do you know where it is being sold. Is it at Ensignbus.
@countryliner saw it advertised in their Facebook page
@Matt.N0056 - Ok. I see. Thanks for the info.
https://www.facebook.com/SilverlineLandFlight/ for thew details of the solo for sale
@Solo1 - Thank you for posting the link. Much appreciated.
NEW Addition
YX16OCZ Enviro 200
PD0001760/8 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between CRANES PARK and POPLAR ROAD, SOLIHULL given service number S10 effective from 10-Jun-2016. To amend Route.
Quote from: Solo1 on June 13, 2016, 03:54:39 PM
PD0001760/8 - SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD T/A SILVERLINE, ARGENT HOUSE, VULCAN ROAD, SOLIHULL, B91 2JY
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between CRANES PARK and POPLAR ROAD, SOLIHULL given service number S10 effective from 10-Jun-2016. To amend Route.
For Bus slip road in town centre
YN13GDY is on S10 today
New Mercs glimpsed in Fridays Birmingham evening rush hour , YN66ENO.
Also YN66ENJ :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58130037@N02/29771719724/in/dateposted-public/
Silverline being rebranded as Landflight, ZXM has lost its Silverline fleet names, assuming it will gain the new Landflight name.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on November 02, 2016, 10:42:26 AM
Silverline being rebranded as Landflight, ZXM has lost its Silverline fleet names, assuming it will gain the new Landflight name.
this was on S10 today see photo link page for pic
Quote from: Solo1 on January 17, 2017, 06:02:05 PM
this was on S10 today see photo link page for pic
Short promo video of the new brand name:
https://vimeo.com/196411108
Quote from: Solo1 on January 17, 2017, 06:02:05 PM
this was on S10 today see photo link page for pic
Had its fleet names for a while now, although I noticed today its got a damaged front bumper
Silverline/landflight now only have 1 Streetlite
Enviro 200 YX16OCZ will be operating the Blythe Valley Business Park shuttles.
https://www.facebook.com/LandFlight/photos/a.645323688874048.1073741829.644226952317055/1445210345552041/?type=3&theater
Photo on photo links of the envrio for the blyth valley service
BF67WFW added to the fleet
https://www.facebook.com/LandFlight/photos/a.645323688874048.1073741829.644226952317055/1632798350126572/?type=3&theater
18 reg e200 MMC out on S10
Is the MMC the usual bus on the S10 now, hoping to photograph it soon
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on June 18, 2018, 04:41:28 PM
Is the MMC the usual bus on the S10 now, hoping to photograph it soon
Pretty sure I saw an older Enviro on the S10 today. There's usually two buses on there so it may have been the other bus.
Quote from: MW on June 18, 2018, 06:42:27 PM
Pretty sure I saw an older Enviro on the S10 today. There's usually two buses on there so it may have been the other bus.
I've been in Solihull a lot lately and all I've seen is the standard E200's on the S10.
S10 has 2 buses on for think it's 3 trips then hourly
Thanks
@MW @Jack @Solo1 Maybe it's been purchased for the Blythe Shuttles then from Birmingham International, as otherwise not sure what they would use it on, unless they have some other contracts that they use buses on
Think is a spare bus for contracts or s10
The Blythe Valley services, what specifically is meant by "closed door"? Is that a case of needing staff passes?
Quote from: Kevin on October 03, 2018, 12:36:05 PM
The Blythe Valley services, what specifically is meant by "closed door"? Is that a case of needing staff passes?
Probably meaning not available to the general public. You could probably board the bus if you told the driver you're going to Blythe Valley Park. On the journey from Blythe Valley, I'd imagine it's allighting only and the reverse journey, picking up only.
Quote from: MW on October 03, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
Probably meaning not available to the general public. You could probably board the bus if you told the driver you're going to Blythe Valley Park. On the journey from Blythe Valley, I'd imagine it's allighting only and the reverse journey, picking up only.
I'd think you'd need some sort of staff card.
It is solely used by passengers getting of the train at Solihull going to Blythe Valley that appear to work there. I've never seen it pick up or drop off anywhere but Solihull Station.
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2018, 03:13:16 PM
I'd think you'd need some sort of staff card.
It is solely used by passengers getting of the train at Solihull going to Blythe Valley that appear to work there. I've never seen it pick up or drop off anywhere but Solihull Station.
Yep same with the Birmingham International one as it says Private Charter on the side display with Blythe Valley & FORE Bham Intl Shuttle on the front so you would most likely need a staff card. Again, it goes straight down the motorway and only serves places in the Blythe Valley park
Landflights Facebook page has been updated with news regarding proposed new routes.
Quote from: suavegarv on January 07, 2019, 06:08:46 PM
Landflights Facebook page has been updated with news regarding proposed new routes.
Can't see any specific details on there, but it's what was the S2/S3/S3W. Implies that NXWM has won the 31 then, unless Landflight have that too. Contracts were originally two years, but fair play to Landflight for winning them for five years.
New Enviro200MMCs I hear.
Quote from: MW on January 07, 2019, 06:13:03 PM
Can't see any specific details on there, but it's what was the S2/S3/S3W. Implies that NXWM has won the 31 then, unless Landflight have that too. Contracts were originally two years, but fair play to Landflight for winning them for five years.
New Enviro200MMCs I hear.
31 to Landflight apparently
Quote from: metrocity on January 07, 2019, 07:35:01 PM
31 to Landflight apparently
Will it still be terminating at the Station, or or will they bring it back into the Town Centre in Solihull?
Quote from: metrocity on January 07, 2019, 07:35:01 PM
31 to Landflight apparently
Sounds like Landflight have cleaned up then...
S2 Cheswick Green to Dorridge. Service will be operated by Landflight.
There will be changes to the route and timetable for this service, which will become a circular route also covering Hockley Heath and Blythe Valley. Service will be renumbered A6 (for short journeys between Solihull and Cheswick Green), A7 and A8.
S3 / S3W Dickens Heath to Wythall. There will be changes to the route and timetable for this service.
S3 eastern part will be replaced by service A3 between Solihull and Dorridge. S3 western part and S3W will be replaced by service A4 from Solihull to Inkford Brook and A5 from Solihull to Dickens Heath. Both services will be operated by Landflight
Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 11, 2019, 05:43:22 PM
S2 Cheswick Green to Dorridge. Service will be operated by Landflight.
There will be changes to the route and timetable for this service, which will become a circular route also covering Hockley Heath and Blythe Valley. Service will be renumbered A6 (for short journeys between Solihull and Cheswick Green), A7 and A8.
S3 / S3W Dickens Heath to Wythall. There will be changes to the route and timetable for this service.
S3 eastern part will be replaced by service A3 between Solihull and Dorridge. S3 western part and S3W will be replaced by service A4 from Solihull to Inkford Brook and A5 from Solihull to Dickens Heath. Both services will be operated by Landflight
Blimey, what happened to simplifying route numbers??
Quote from: Winston on January 07, 2019, 07:46:54 PM
Sounds like Landflight have cleaned up then...
There was another suggestion that an operator has registered majority of 31 commercially now so who knows!
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2019, 06:06:54 PM
Blimey, what happened to simplifying route numbers??
A stands for 'Arden network' or the 'A class of service'
I despair...
Quote from: metrocity on January 11, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
There was another suggestion that an operator has registered majority of 31 commercially now so who knows!
Not quite sure about these comments on the 31.
It is a commercial NXWM service, not a tendered route anyway
It was up for tender so obviously if you're saying it's commercial for nxwm they must have changed their minds.
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2019, 06:42:37 PM
Not quite sure about these comments on the 31.
It is a commercial NXWM service, not a tendered route anyway
Quote from: Steveminor on January 11, 2019, 07:04:17 PM
It was up for tender so obviously if you're saying it's commercial for nxwm they must have changed their minds.
I was a bit puzzled myself about these comments regarding the 31, as I believed it was a mainly commercial service.
Could the tenders just be for evening or Sunday services perhaps? Don't know if these were previously subsidised.
Quote from: Stu on January 11, 2019, 08:37:51 PM
I was a bit puzzled myself about these comments regarding the 31, as I believed it was a mainly commercial service.
Could the tenders just be for evening or Sunday services perhaps? Don't know if these were previously subsidised.
No - the tender that went out was for Monday to Sunday daytimes
How many new buses are landfight having for the new services
Quote from: metrocity on January 11, 2019, 06:20:23 PM
A stands for 'Arden network' or the 'A class of service'
I despair...
I don't see the problem with retaining the current 'S' routes for Solihull..... just seems another pointless change.
Quote from: Winston on January 12, 2019, 11:59:45 AM
I don't see the problem with retaining the current 'S' routes for Solihull..... just seems another pointless change.
I would have thought, if anything, the changes would bring about an end to the S or any letter and just a number used, does seem very strange in the current climate of "simplicity"
Quote from: Kevin on January 12, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
I would have thought, if anything, the changes would bring about an end to the S or any letter and just a number used, does seem very strange in the current climate of "simplicity"
Original tender specifications had normal numbers in place.
S11 to become 11
S1 to become 12
S3 Solihull-Dickens to become 33
S3W Solihull-Wythall to become 34
S2 Circular to become 78/79
S3 Solihull-Dorridge to become 83
I can only assume that the 'A' prefix was proposed by Landflight in their bids.
Quote from: MW on January 12, 2019, 03:11:36 PM
I can only assume that the 'A' prefix was proposed by Landflight in their bids.
Quote from: Kevin on January 12, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
I would have thought, if anything, the changes would bring about an end to the S or any letter and just a number used, does seem very strange in the current climate of "simplicity"
Have they chosen the the A prefix due to the operator name "Landflight"?
I still don't see what was wrong with the S prefix changing them to A1, etc does seem a bit of a pointless change. I don't see what relevance the A holds with these routes, anyway, as none of these routes go to the Airport.
Another thing that I find strange is why have 3 sperate route numbers for the S2, A6 - For Short Workings, A7 and A8 (alternating anticlockwise and clockwise directions), surely something like 78A, 78C and 78E would make more sence, it works well with the 11. You'd expect an A6, A7 and A8 would be 3 seperate routes.
Quote from: 2206 on January 12, 2019, 04:00:38 PM
Have they chosen the the A prefix due to the operator name "Landflight"?
I still don't see what was wrong with the S prefix changing them to A1, etc does seem a bit of a pointless change. I don't see what relevance the A holds with these routes, anyway, as none of these routes go to the Airport.
Another thing that I find strange is why have 3 sperate route numbers for the S2, A6 - For Short Workings, A7 and A8 (alternating anticlockwise and clockwise directions), surely something like 78A, 78C and 78E would make more sence, it works well with the 11. You'd expect an A6, A7 and A8 would be 3 seperate routes.
Other operators routes in the area (temdered) are also having the 'A' prefix
Advertising for new drivers, will be driving new vehicles too.
TFWM are a bit early, live departure board at Solihull Station says an A2 is due in a few minutes time.
Just seen two new Enviro200MMC in dealer white on Solihull By-Pass turning towards Landflight depot coming from the M42 direction.
YN68XXX I think the plates were.
Went to the depot earlier and got talking to one of the main guys. Really friendly and said one more MMC due soon, with 7 noted. YX18KWU plus new YW68PFA/D/E/F/G/J, all in stock white and will have logos applied before service I think. Think they were to be grey like KWU but not enough time now.
Photos to be linked soon
DO you happen to know if they still have any of the standard E200s i only ever seem to see YX63ZXM
Quote from: cris 99 on February 18, 2019, 08:29:09 PM
DO you happen to know if they still have any of the standard E200s i only ever seem to see YX63ZXM
Yep YN13GDY/GBY are longer blue ones, there was one of them on S10 today. YX16OCZ has a Blythe Valley wrap and does the closed contract from there to Birmingham International normally. Think they also have YY15NHN, but not certain on that
brilliant thanx for that
I've looked at the new Solihull timetables and I think the times at each terminus is very tight and there are no increased journey times in peaks, does anybody know if there is a bigger layover time at Solihull by interworking with other routes ?
Looks like YX16OCZ was on the A5 yesterday. Quite a rare one to have in regular service as it carries the Blythe Valley branding
Not my photo - https://www.flickr.com/photos/benattwood/32392791097/in/feed
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 10, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
Looks like YX16OCZ was on the A5 yesterday. Quite a rare one to have in regular service as it carries the Blythe Valley branding
Not my photo - https://www.flickr.com/photos/benattwood/32392791097/in/feed
I put a photo of it on the main site
https://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YX16OCZ.html
It got taken off at lunchtime
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2019, 09:00:16 AM
I put a photo of it on the main site
https://wmbusphotos.com/Silverline/YX16OCZ.html
It got taken off at lunchtime
Ah right, I hadn't checked the main site yet. Nice one
YW68 PFD was on Blythe Valley shuttle this morning. I've posted a link of the photo on Photo Links topic.
For anyone interested
YX18 KWU is on A3 today. Currently doing 9:00 to Dorridge
YN13 GBY is on A3 today
Just left Solihull 15 minutes late (09:00 to Dorridge)
YW68 PFD is on today's Blythe Valley shuttle
YX16 OCZ (Blythe Valley Shuttle Branding) is on A7 today. Left Solihull at 0900
Landflight seemed to be short of drivers today .At least 2 duties not running this morning.
Found this on twitter #Bus #Solihull Services A5 and A6 currently suspended. Landflight apologise for the inconvenience, and we'll let you know when they start operating.
YX18 KUD now at Landflight.
It's a 10.8m last generation E200.
Quote from: MW on July 19, 2019, 08:49:28 PM
YX18 KUD now at Landflight.
It's a 10.8m last generation E200.
Was out on A10 yesterday.
Quote from: Rob2832 on July 19, 2019, 08:55:24 PM
Was out on A10 yesterday.
Ex Somerset passenger Solutions
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on July 19, 2019, 11:55:09 PM
Only on loan
if the above is a loan bus how come as I thought they had enough buses for the services
PD0001760/21 Cancelled
SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD
Route: Station Road, Solihull to Cheswick Green
Service number: A6 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2019
PD0001760/30 Registered
SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD
Route: Acocks Green to Solihull via Olton
Service number: A12 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2019
PD0001760/22 Registered
SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD
Route: Station Road, Solihull to Station Road, Solihull via Cheswick Green, Hockley Heath, Knowle, Dorridge
Service number: A7 (A7W, A8W, A8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2019
PD0001760/18 Registered
SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD
Route: Station Approach, Solihull to Station Approach, Dorridge via Dorridge, Knowle
Service number: A3 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2019
PD0001760/18 Registered
SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD
Route: Station Approach, Solihull to Station Approach, Dorridge via Dorridge, Knowle
Service number: A3 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2019
PD0001760/20 Registered
SILVERLINE LANDFLIGHT LTD
Route: Poplar Road, Solihull to Campion Way, Dickens Heath
Service number: A5 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2019
Lack of comuinication with passengers about their diversion in Dickens Heath on the A4 and A5.
Shame their drivers can't infom passengers that they will be missing out a section of the route in Dickens Heath, before diverting.
Also no information/notices about the diversion on stops in Dickens Heath.
The 14:30 A4 from Solihull to Dickens Heath never turned up at the Dickens Heath Road, Boundary Lane stop, leaving the few passengers that were waiting for it, not knowing whether the bus was even running. The other 2 people waiting for it completely gave up.
YW68 PFA's front desi doesn't work. Noticed it about 2 weeks ago
YX69 NUC first day out on the A10 today
YX69NUE first day out on the A12 today
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on November 22, 2019, 06:31:02 AM
YX69NUE first day out on the A12 today
Is NUC out at all today? Thanks
YX69 NUC was out on A10 today.
Is it by any chance replacing YX63 ZXM which use to the allocated bus for A10?
Quote from: James4368 on November 22, 2019, 05:46:25 PM
YX69 NUC was out on A10 today.
Is it by any chance replacing YX63 ZXM which use to the allocated bus for A10?
Landflight have always said that they intend to be 100% Euro 6 by 2020. I recall it being mentioned that the YX16 Enviro would be converted to Euro 6. Based on that logic, I'd assume the remaining 3 Classic versions to be replaced with new shorter examples due to the A10/A12 being fairly tight routes. Maybe
@Matt.N0056 can confirm.
Quote from: MW on November 22, 2019, 11:26:22 PM
Landflight have always said that they intend to be 100% Euro 6 by 2020. I recall it being mentioned that the YX16 Enviro would be converted to Euro 6. Based on that logic, I'd assume the remaining 3 Classic versions to be replaced with new shorter examples due to the A10/A12 being fairly tight routes. Maybe @Matt.N0056 can confirm.
Correct! All 3 in service today, NUC/E on A12 & NUF on A10
A post on facebook has the 2 blue enviros 13 reg as for sale cant find the post on face book & the 63 reg envrio has gone to Travel express T/A lets Go in wolverhampton
Quote from: Solo1 on January 01, 2020, 05:24:55 PM
A post on facebook has the 2 blue enviros 13 reg as for sale cant find the post on face book & the 63 reg envrio has gone to Travel express T/A lets Go in wolverhampton
@Solo1 - Chartwell have them for sale:
https://chartwellbussales.co.uk/buses_details.php?bus=160
Removal of Sunday service on service A3. New timetable now available here https://www.landflight.co.uk/bus-services/.
LandFlight now accepting contactless payment!
Landflight bus services are now visible on bustimes.org tracking (https://bustimes.org/operators/landflight/vehicles)
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on January 12, 2020, 09:53:18 PM
LandFlight now accepting contactless payment!
Hi
@Matt.N0056 do you have any further information on this? How does it work etc, just so I can update my website.
Quote from: Stu on January 28, 2020, 08:12:59 PM
Hi @Matt.N0056 do you have any further information on this? How does it work etc, just so I can update my website.
Hi Stu,
It's not tap&go/capped like NXWM which means any ticket or number of tickets can be brought using contactless card/Apple Pay/google pay. Pretty much the same as Diamond's
If I'm honest the Ticketer designed solution for contactless is better as it promotes the purchase of multi op/period tickets.
Hi all
Can anybody please confirm where the terminus is for the A4 at Inkford Brook is correct. As I think it should be further down the road (where the 150 is mentioned after the junction of Chapel Lane)?
Thanks
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on June 04, 2020, 10:13:35 AM
Hi all
Can anybody please confirm where the terminus is for the A4 at Inkford Brook is correct. As I think it should be further down the road (where the 150 is mentioned after the junction of Chapel Lane)?
Thanks
You are correct. Inkford Brook is a bit further down the Alcester Road, in fact just south of where the map background changes colour from light green to dark green. The bus stop and layover point is on the slip road immediately after Barkers Lane. Buses then do a U turn at the junction with Watery Lane (going under the A435 Alcester Road, which is on a flyover at that point), then use Alcester Road northbound and Hill Lane to Chapel Lane. Buses have a few minutes' layover at Inkford, but passengers can travel through to Wythall Church.
Wythall Transport Museum buses travelling to the museum actually follow the same route from Wythall roundabout (aka Becketts Island).
Quote from: Justin Tyme on June 04, 2020, 10:18:04 PM
You are correct. Inkford Brook is a bit further down the Alcester Road, in fact just south of where the map background changes colour from light green to dark green. The bus stop and layover point is on the slip road immediately after Barkers Lane. Buses then do a U turn at the junction with Watery Lane (going under the A435 Alcester Road, which is on a flyover at that point), then use Alcester Road northbound and Hill Lane to Chapel Lane. Buses have a few minutes' layover at Inkford, but passengers can travel through to Wythall Church.
Wythall Transport Museum buses travelling to the museum actually follow the same route from Wythall roundabout (aka Becketts Island).
Hi Justin
Thanks for that info so the current terminus is wrong, as I suspected. I'll try to get it rectified no promise though! 😁
Regards
Bus Man K2
A10 will be extended to Chelmsley Wood next week from 26th October.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:38A10:%20:H:y11:13:5::1:5&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=38A10&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA03_63305828&lineVer=5&itdLPxx_spTr=5&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=SIL
Replacing Diamond 91A/91C.
Quote from: 2206 on October 16, 2020, 08:15:49 PM
A10 will be extended to Chelmsley Wood next week from 26th October.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:38A10:%20:H:y11:13:5::1:5&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=38A10&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA03_63305828&lineVer=5&itdLPxx_spTr=5&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=SIL
Replacing Diamond 91A/91C.
Have Landflight got a small enough bus to do the turnaround on Digby Drive? I'm sure I remember that Central Connect used to use one of those short buses, but most of what I've seen on route in the past (when it was the 676) were minibuses.
Also your two links refer to the A10 and S10. They need to update things properly.
Quote from: ellspurs on October 17, 2020, 09:04:48 AM
Have Landflight got a small enough bus to do the turnaround on Digby Drive? I'm sure I remember that Central Connect used to use one of those short buses, but most of what I've seen on route in the past (when it was the 676) were minibuses.
Also your two links refer to the A10 and S10. They need to update things properly.
Diamond used Darts and Solos on the 91A/C before the Mellors, and there's a photo of a Central Buses E200 on the route too on Flickr. Landflight's E200s should be fine, especially considering they have the three 69 plate ones that are shorter than the rest.
Quote from: StourValley98 on October 17, 2020, 11:54:40 AM
Diamond used Darts and Solos on the 91A/C before the Mellors, and there's a photo of a Central Buses E200 on the route too on Flickr. Landflight's E200s should be fine, especially considering they have the three 69 plate ones that are shorter than the rest.
Diamond have used E200 on there in the past, I've seen one at Marston Green myself.
Diamond do still use Solos on the 91A/91C.
@John has a picture of 20058 on there yesterday and there is also interworking with that route and the 25 (Ward End - Erdington) and other routes, as 20058 was also on the 25 yesterday as I saw it on there at the Fox and Goose at 3PM, which does the last round trip of the day on a weekday.
The tracking also shows an E200 on the 91 yesterday and interworking with the 68A/68C Aston Circular.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/16752?date=2020-10-16
https://bustimes.org/services/91a-chelmsley-wood-marston-green-circular-anticl-3/vehicles?date=2020-10-16
I don't think either the 91A/91C or the 25 use mellors.
Quote from: 2206 on October 17, 2020, 12:15:30 PM
Diamond have used E200 on there in the past, I've seen one at Marston Green myself.
Diamond do still use Solos on the 91A/91C. @John has a picture of 20058 on there yesterday and there is also interworking with that route and the 25 (Ward End - Erdington) and other routes, as 20058 was also on the 25 yesterday as I saw it on there at the Fox and Goose at 3PM, which does the last round trip of the day on a weekday.
The tracking also shows an E200 on the 91 yesterday and interworking with the 68A/68C Aston Circular.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/16752?date=2020-10-16
https://bustimes.org/services/91a-chelmsley-wood-marston-green-circular-anticl-3/vehicles?date=2020-10-16
I don't think either the 91A/91C or the 25 use mellors.
Ah right, thanks for clearing that up, I'm not too familiar with the allocations over that side of the city. I've looked at the Digby Drive turnaround too, and it seems big enough for an E200 for sure.
Quote from: StourValley98 on October 17, 2020, 12:45:31 PM
Ah right, thanks for clearing that up, I'm not too familiar with the allocations over that side of the city. I've looked at the Digby Drive turnaround too, and it seems big enough for an E200 for sure.
Very tight with a LWB vehicle - depends on how cars are parked
Quote from: metrocity on October 17, 2020, 02:36:30 PM
Very tight with a LWB vehicle - depends on how cars are parked
Yeah, but Landflight have a few SWB E200MMCs, which I presume would work better.
The A10 is the only LandFlight route that the short E200s are suited to anyway. They would have been better off purchasing Solos instead of the SWB E200s in my opinion. Maybe the SWB E200s worked out cheaper or it's just to standardise the fleet.
The remaining routes can handle the longer E200s easily.
They had solos but sold them along with Streetlites
Weren`t the Streetlites sold to First?
Anyone got any pics of A10 past few days or know what was on it?
Quote from: Jack D on October 27, 2020, 11:19:45 AM
Anyone got any pics of A10 past few days or know what was on it?
It gets the E200 MMCs. This was before the extension but I doubt that will change the allocation.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/solihull-bus-firm-warns-services-21686268
I was just gonna ask if the bus firms had a secure supply of fuel.
Where I work, the last fuel delivery should have been Thursday, but the supplier keeps failing the delivery and now we are having to find anywhere that has fuel to refill.
Quote from: ellspurs on September 27, 2021, 04:55:55 PM
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/solihull-bus-firm-warns-services-21686268
I was just gonna ask if the bus firms had a secure supply of fuel.
Where I work, the last fuel delivery should have been Thursday, but the supplier keeps failing the delivery and now we are having to find anywhere that has fuel to refill.
I used to regularly see one of Silverline's Solos filling up at the BP garage on Warwick Road in Olton.
I don't know about other operators but as stated in the article, all NX depots have fuelling facilities on site.
The whole situation is just ridiculous now, and there's no reason for people to still be panic-buying fuel. There's plenty of fuel to go around, as long as motorists stick to their usual buying habits.
Quote from: Stu on September 27, 2021, 06:07:29 PM
The whole situation is just ridiculous now, and there's no reason for people to still be panic-buying fuel. There's plenty of fuel to go around, as long as motorists stick to their usual buying habits.
I was going to say surely if some more people caught the bus instead of driving and take up an empty bus seat, there'd be more fuel for people that need it it most. Make that a permanent change to as 1 bus is more environmentally friendly than 100's of cars on the road.
The headline on the front page of one of the newspapers today says "panic monday" as well, should say "no need to panic", but then again that might not sell the story for them. The petrol station on the Chester Road by the JLR is closed I think they ran out of fuel then.
Quote from: 2206 on September 27, 2021, 06:14:46 PM
The headline on the front page of one of the newspapers today says "panic monday" as well, should say "no need to panic", but then again that might not sell the story for them. The petrol station on the Chester Road by the JLR is closed I think they ran out of fuel then.
The media have deliberately engineered this 'fuel crisis' out of nothing, and are doing little to stop people from 'panic-buying'.
Landflight aren't the only ones hard hit by the stupidity of some people. Many smaller operators round here use petrol stations to fill up, as they have no on site facilities. Buses and emergency vehicles should be prioritised, without having any limits on spending. After all, they are probably one of the garage's best customers.
Quote from: Pat on September 27, 2021, 08:19:10 PM
Landflight aren't the only ones hard hit by the stupidity of some people. Many smaller operators round here use petrol stations to fill up, as they have no on site facilities. Buses and emergency vehicles should be prioritised, without having any limits on spending. After all, they are probably one of the garage's best customers.
Appreciate your point Pat - if we prioritise buses along with emergency services, what good are the buses full of diesel if the drivers can't fill up and get into work? Good point and idea in theory, though the simplicities of this aren't workable. I do feel for Landflight and smaller operators, but having your own infrastructure in place like larger operators, or entering into small operator partnerships for mutli-use bunkers instead.
Quote from: Wumpty on September 28, 2021, 10:15:04 AM
Appreciate your point Pat - if we prioritise buses along with emergency services, what good are the buses full of diesel if the drivers can't fill up and get into work? Good point and idea in theory, though the simplicities of this aren't workable. I do feel for Landflight and smaller operators, but having your own infrastructure in place like larger operators, or entering into small operator partnerships for mutli-use bunkers instead.
I believe NX are going to sell fuel to Landflight from AG garage
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2021, 10:28:15 AM
I believe NX are going to sell fuel to Landflight from AG garage
An excellent gesture Tony. Perhaps the next time some of the bus fraternity feel like criticising NXWM for muscling the smaller operators, they should remember things like this.
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2021, 10:28:15 AM
I believe NX are going to sell fuel to Landflight from AG garage
For a profit
Quote from: Steveminor on September 28, 2021, 12:58:35 PM
For a profit
Just like any other place they'd fill up at?
NX are a business, just like BP, Shell etc.
Quote from: Steveminor on September 28, 2021, 12:58:35 PM
For a profit
Not sure of your point Steve. Any business transaction involves mark-up and a profit AND it does allow them to continue operating and maintain service.
What would you rather have - buses standing with no fuel or a valuable lifeline in the interim?
My point has been pointed out, not an excellent gesture but a business transaction for profit.
Quote from: Steveminor on September 28, 2021, 02:17:52 PM
My point has been pointed out, not an excellent gesture but a business transaction for profit.
As you seem to know, what are they being charged then
@Tony you should know better than that, asking for commercially sensitive figures to be posted in an open forum. Tut Tut
Quote from: Steveminor on September 28, 2021, 02:17:52 PM
My point has been pointed out, not an excellent gesture but a business transaction for profit.
So what
exactly is your point Steve? Why don't you say exactly what you mean and make it blatantly clear so we understand? As a logistics specialist, I see a larger business offering a smaller business an opportunity to continue trading to ensure vital bus services can continue to run and allow, amongst others, key workers to get to work. Would you and Claribels rather see Landflight's fleet without fuel, indeed your own fleet if the situation doesn't improve, and sit there unable to operate even if NXWM offered you a lifeline?
We could apply the same logic to your company - not a value-for-money vital set of bus services for your passengers, but a business transaction for profit. Which category do you fit into?
Genuinely interested to know.
The exact point is that it is NOT a "gesture" but an amicable business arrangement. I'm certain it would not have come to landflight being unable to source fuel of the need to take buses out of service.
Quote from: Steveminor on September 28, 2021, 07:26:41 PM
The exact point is that it is NOT a "gesture" but an amicable business arrangement. I'm certain it would not have come to landflight being unable to source fuel of the need to take buses out of service.
It is a gesture, no-one is forcing Landflight to use AG, and they are not paying more they they normally would, but you just hate NX and have to try point scoring.
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2021, 07:38:12 PM
It is a gesture, no-one is forcing Landflight to use AG, and they are not paying more they they normally would, but you just hate NX and have to try point scoring.
I don't see why one company selling another company some fuel has to cause an argument for. It was a very kind gesture for NX to offer to let them use AG and as Tony says they are not paying any extra than they would normally pay, so whats the problem.
At the end of the day, in a situation like this, everyone has to help each other!!
Quote from: Steveminor on September 28, 2021, 07:26:41 PM
The exact point is that it is NOT a "gesture" but an amicable business arrangement. I'm certain it would not have come to landflight being unable to source fuel of the need to take buses out of service.
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2021, 07:38:12 PM
It is a gesture, no-one is forcing Landflight to use AG, and they are not paying more they they normally would, but you just hate NX and have to try point scoring.
Landflight had agreements with local filling stations for refueling their vehicles. As reported in the Birmingham Mail, those stations imposed a £50 limit on the amount of fuel that could be purchased at a time. The guy from Landflight revealed their buses use about £100 of diesel per day. That was what was going to cause them problems, if regular motorists didn't stop acting silly and panic-buying fuel uneccesarily.
The one thing that is NOT stressed enough by the media is that there is NO shortage of fuel.
Presumably NX bus depots are getting their own deliveries on a regular basis, so there is no shortage for them. I understand that NX Bus 'hedge-fund' their fuel supplies by buying them in advance at agreed rates, so it is entirely possible that what they have paid for their fuel is less than the current 'pump-rate'.
If NX Bus can then offer fuel to Landflight at the current 'pump rate', and Landflight are happy to pay this (which is what they would pay otherwise) if it keeps them operational, if NX Bus make a little bit of profit on the fuel they sell to them, I don't personally see what the problem is.
If Landflight felt like they were somehow being 'ripped off', then I'm sure they wouldn't have agreed to this.
Quote from: Stu on September 28, 2021, 08:33:34 PM
Landflight had agreements with local filling stations for refueling their vehicles. As reported in the Birmingham Mail, those stations imposed a £50 limit on the amount of fuel that could be purchased at a time. The guy from Landflight revealed their buses use about £100 of diesel per day. That was what was going to cause them problems, if regular motorists didn't stop acting silly and panic-buying fuel uneccesarily.
The one thing that is NOT stressed enough by the media is that there is NO shortage of fuel.
Presumably NX bus depots are getting their own deliveries on a regular basis, so there is no shortage for them. I understand that NX Bus 'hedge-fund' their fuel supplies by buying them in advance at agreed rates, so it is entirely possible that what they have paid for their fuel is less than the current 'pump-rate'.
If NX Bus can then offer fuel to Landflight at the current 'pump rate', and Landflight are happy to pay this (which is what they would pay otherwise) if it keeps them operational, if NX Bus make a little bit of profit on the fuel they sell to them, I don't personally see what the problem is.
If Landflight felt like they were somehow being 'ripped off', then I'm sure they wouldn't have agreed to this.
Who said anything about Landflight being ripped off? At this rate it's a shortage of popcorn we will be looking at!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 28, 2021, 08:14:30 PM
I don't see why one company selling another company some fuel has to cause an argument for. It was a very kind gesture for NX to offer to let them use AG and as Tony says they are not paying any extra than they would normally pay, so whats the problem.
At the end of the day, in a situation like this, everyone has to help each other!!
Landflight is a very good company and letting them use AG fuel shows NX just helping other companies stay strong. Shows more about caring for other smaller operators than a problem
Quote from: metrocity on September 28, 2021, 09:18:54 PM
Who said anything about Landflight being ripped off?
That's not what I said.
Of course it's a gesture.
From a business point of view, it would be in NX's interest to watch the small operators "starve of fuel" and essentially wipe them out.
Somehow I doubt Rotala would offer the same gesture to other smaller operators.
So let's all bow down & pray to our benevolent masters.
You could always offer to help them Steve rather than criticising Nat Ex...No I thought not
There has always been a very close relationship between Claribels/BIC & landflight.
& for the record was not critical of the offer or suggesting nx were going to rip them off just pointing out this was a business related transaction not the oh hail nx you are so kind gesture people on here were making it out to be.
Quote from: Steveminor on September 30, 2021, 07:26:27 AM
There has always been a very close relationship between Claribels/BIC & landflight.
& for the record was not critical of the offer or suggesting nx were going to rip them off just pointing out this was a business related transaction not the oh hail nx you are so kind gesture people on here were making it out to be.
Not so close as to engage in "a business related transaction" and offer them fuel!
Thankfully Steve, most of the posts relating to this subject see it for what it is. You're entitled to your opinion, even if it is in the minority.
Quote from: Wumpty on September 30, 2021, 07:58:00 AM
Not so close as to engage in "a business related transaction" and offer them fuel!
Thankfully Steve, most of the posts relating to this subject see it for what it is. You're entitled to your opinion, even if it is in the minority.
In fairness NX probably had plenty of surplus fuel judging by the amount of missing buses in recent weeks (https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2021/09/28/national-express-apologises-for-bus-delays-after-passengers-left-stranded/)
@metrocity you're correct & unfortunately we've got a FULL service in operation plus long distance coach work to cover
Quote from: Steveminor on September 30, 2021, 08:16:45 AM
@metrocity you're correct & unfortunately we've got a FULL service in operation plus long distance coach work to cover
Quite right Steve - a FULL service with a considerably smaller fleet. I'd wager that even Claribels would have the same issues with a fleet the size of NX, First or Diamond.
The article mentions unhappy passengers and the obligatory one that wishes not to be named (don't they just?!), and it does show an apology, though this must be taken in context - The NX apology states, "Various issues have been affecting the punctuality and reliability of our services recently - including continuing sickness and self-isolation due to the pandemic, as well as the UK-wide difficulties in recruiting drivers and many large-scale sets of roadworks causing congestion and delaying buses. From October 3 we're temporarily tweaking the timetables of some Birmingham and Black Country services to improve their reliability."
The Wolverhampton services currently have to contend with eight sets of roadworks with temporary traffic lights in an area the size of Birmingham city centre and, of course, this will hurt services, create bunching and have a knock on effect.
It also quotes Greig Mackay, a director at the Bus Users campaign group, who said the issues in the West Midlands were happening all over the UK. It's a simple case of ratios and mathematics - the smaller the business the easier it is to recruit drivers, the larger the business, the harder it is (as you'll know from your days at Pete's Travel) and this is exacerbated by the factors shown above.
Thankfully, both yourselves and Landflight have smaller fleets and choose to operate that way. It's easier to throw fuel on the fire, than it is to help put it out (see what I did there?!)
Another factor to consider with 'certain' smaller companies (I am not suggesting Landflight are like this as I do not know them well) is that the standard of drivers may not be the greatest and hence their drivers won't be of interest to any HGV firms (or similar) for driving jobs there. I have plenty of experience over the years of seeing drivers being dismissed by my company for various misdemeanours and then turning up working for these certain other companies a few weeks later.
In the current climate, highly trained NXWM drivers with exemplary driving records and longer periods of service for the company will be very attractive to HGV recruiters and are more likely to be able to obtain new jobs. Those drivers who have had multiple jobs with different bus companies over a short period of time will be far less attractive so less likely to leave their bus company.
NXWM, First, Stagecoach etc having high training and employment standards are actually creating the situation where their drivers are the most attractive for other driving jobs because those companies know these drivers are of a good quality.
I've never read so much contrived nonsense in my life as some of the constructed theories above.
Total nepotism of the highest order from people who clearly know nothing about operating buses.
Quote from: andy41 on September 30, 2021, 10:48:20 PM
I've never read so much contrived nonsense in my life as some of the constructed theories above.
Total nepotism of the highest order from people who clearly know nothing about operating buses.
Here comes anti-NXWM mark 2! I think you will find there is plenty of knowledge here and also many experiences of what has been suggested. Of course you wouldn't see any negatives about certain companies but after years of hearing the same stories about the 'quality' of operation of them I am quite happy with my viewpoint here thanks 👍 (again not aimed at Landflight so this is becoming rather off topic!)
Quote from: j789 on September 30, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
Another factor to consider with 'certain' smaller companies (I am not suggesting Landflight are like this as I do not know them well) is that the standard of drivers may not be the greatest and hence their drivers won't be of interest to any HGV firms (or similar) for driving jobs there. I have plenty of experience over the years of seeing drivers being dismissed by my company for various misdemeanours and then turning up working for these certain other companies a few weeks later.
In the current climate, highly trained NXWM drivers with exemplary driving records and longer periods of service for the company will be very attractive to HGV recruiters and are more likely to be able to obtain new jobs. Those drivers who have had multiple jobs with different bus companies over a short period of time will be far less attractive so less likely to leave their bus company.
NXWM, First, Stagecoach etc having high training and employment standards are actually creating the situation where their drivers are the most attractive for other driving jobs because those companies know these drivers are of a good quality.
Is this a serious comment ?
Folks, can we keep this thread 'on-topic' for stuff surrounding the operator Landflight.
For continued discussion of the topic of driver shortages, please use the following thread instead:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=6086.0
Quote from: andy41 on September 30, 2021, 10:48:20 PM
I've never read so much contrived nonsense in my life as some of the constructed theories above.
Total nepotism of the highest order from people who clearly know nothing about operating buses.
Any posts in particular
@andy41 ? I'm genuinely interested in which posts.
@Wumpty maybe you didn't read Stu last comment!!!
Quote from: Steveminor on October 01, 2021, 09:13:20 AM
@Wumpty maybe you didn't read Stu last comment!!!
I did Steve - as I'm unable to quote from this thread into the new thread directly, then it's a question and kept in context. You'll see that I've addressed in the new thread, as you've replied to it.
You're not a moderator Steve so, with respect, not your place to point it out or make a smart, point-scoring remark - and certainly without the rudeness of exclamation marks, which are unnecessary (please learn about punctuation, grammar and manners).
Feel free to PM me should you absolutely need to continue this discussion.
Moderators - sincere apologies for responding to Steve's remarks on this thread - future posts will be on topic or posted elsewhere appropriately.
Quote from: j789 on September 30, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
Another factor to consider with 'certain' smaller companies (I am not suggesting Landflight are like this as I do not know them well) is that the standard of drivers may not be the greatest and hence their drivers won't be of interest to any HGV firms (or similar) for driving jobs there. I have plenty of experience over the years of seeing drivers being dismissed by my company for various misdemeanours and then turning up working for these certain other companies a few weeks later.
In the current climate, highly trained NXWM drivers with exemplary driving records and longer periods of service for the company will be very attractive to HGV recruiters and are more likely to be able to obtain new jobs. Those drivers who have had multiple jobs with different bus companies over a short period of time will be far less attractive so less likely to leave their bus company.
NXWM, First, Stagecoach etc having high training and employment standards are actually creating the situation where their drivers are the most attractive for other driving jobs because those companies know these drivers are of a good quality.
A bus license is a bus license at the end of the day. You must have passed a test to be able to drive these buses so that's an absolute nonsense comment. Maybe if nx didn't sack people constantly or made it a better working environment then these drivers wouldn't leave?? A smaller companies drivers are likely to be a closer knit group and feel more appreciated by their boss rather than at nx where a driver is just a number?
With the stories from
@2900 it's hardly a surprise they have a driver shortage
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 01, 2021, 05:30:34 PM
. Maybe if nx didn't sack people constantly
Can you back up that with facts?
Quote from: metrocity on October 01, 2021, 07:24:02 AM
Is this a serious comment ?
Please outline exactly on the other 'driver shortage' thread exactly why you think I'm not serious. Do you work in the industry on a daily basis? I do and what I say is backed up by actual experience of this. The stories I have heard about maintenance and management standards at other companies DIRECTLY from drivers with experience working for those companies is mind boggling. I'm clearly not saying every driver in those companies is bad as that isn't true but the overall standards at some of these 'run 3 minutes in front of the competitor' companies will certainly not be as high as one of the larger companies like NXWM.
I'd be interested to hear why you think this isn't the case?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely if Landflight were unable to fufill their services, for whatever reason, TfWM would have to step in & retender the routes, so already putting pressure on already strained workforces, for whoever took on the routes.
All I can say is nice one NX for coming to the rescue over the fuel issue.
Quote from: Westy on October 02, 2021, 08:50:18 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely if Landflight were unable to fufill their services, for whatever reason, TfWM would have to step in & retender the routes, so already putting pressure on already strained workforces, for whoever took on the routes.
All I can say is nice one NX for coming to the rescue over the fuel issue.
Yes NX is doing the right thing and selling fuel off to landflight. Not sure why steve thinks this is a issue.
Landflight A5 from Solihull to Dickens Heath/Cheswick Green failed to operate today at 11.22. The service was not operating at all, as there was no sign of any bus out on the A5.
Quote from: 2206 on October 29, 2021, 03:38:46 PM
Landflight A5 from Solihull to Dickens Heath/Cheswick Green failed to operate today at 11.22. The service was not operating at all, as there was no sign of any bus out on the A5.
Probably short of drivers.
Makes the most sense to cut the A5, as the entire route is served by the A4/A7/A8.
Quote from: MW on October 29, 2021, 03:58:47 PM
Probably short of drivers.
Makes the most sense to cut the A5, as the entire route is served by the A4/A7/A8.
I thought it'd probably be that, but if they can't run the service as per the timetable, then surely they need to change the timetable to reflect it, as not very good not running the service at all.
There was one woman going round asking where all the buses and trains are today to. The A7/A8 also don't go via Shirley like the A5 I don't think.
Quote from: 2206 on October 29, 2021, 04:04:15 PM
I thought it'd probably be that, but if they can't run the service as per the timetable, then surely they need to change the timetable to reflect it, as not very good not running the service at all.
There was one woman going round asking where all the buses and trains are today to. The A7/A8 also don't go via Shirley like the A5 I don't think.
The A4 goes through Shirley. The A5 only maintains a 30 min frequency between Solihull & Dickens Heath. The A4 is still operating so in effect every other bus is operating as normal.
In their defence, it does say on their Twitter page that the A5 is not operating for the remainder of the day and will resume tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/landflightb
They also (usually) have an inspector in Solihull Town Centre informing passengers of the cancellation.
You can't hold the blame on them as this is due to driver shortages.
Landfight Blythe Valley E200 branding removed and now generic blue but has some paint damage
Whilst in Solihull today, I noticed that Landflight got a new bus YX22 OHD.
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https://flic.kr/p/2nuGB2r
One of the new ones. The other being YX22OHE.
Saw some speculation of Landflight covering the withdraw NX 58 from Jan, any confirmation of this or is it rumours?
As explained elsewhere, service 58 will be replaced by new Stagecoach service A9.
All Landflight services suspended due to the weather but also it seems they were struggling to reach Lode Lane from the garage, as the council hadn't gritted Vulcan or Boulton Road ( saw a tweet from Landflight). This despite it being yards away from where the gritting lorries are based on Moat Lane! :grin: :grin:
I noticed Landflight have a new bus? YX21 RVK was doing the A8 this evening around 8pm
Quote from: GoldenSquid on May 04, 2023, 09:41:39 PMI noticed Landflight have a new bus? YX21 RVK was doing the A8 this evening around 8pm
https://flic.kr/p/2oyd56D
Temporary replacement for YW68PFD, following an RTC.
Does anyone know what bus did the 1620 A8, I forgot to log it on busmiles - and it didn't track on bustimes.
Quote from: GoldenSquid on June 05, 2023, 09:12:12 PMDoes anyone know what bus did the 1620 A8, I forgot to log it on busmiles - and it didn't track on bustimes.
It was PFJ. Looks like the driver logged the incorrect trip to begin with.
When did landflight get announcements onboard their buses?
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on December 12, 2024, 06:18:21 PMWhen did landflight get announcements onboard their buses?
September, although not fitted to all of the fleet.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on December 12, 2024, 07:12:57 PMSeptember, although not fitted to all of the fleet.
Presumably just the newer vehicles, so they are compliant with the new regulations?
Quote from: Stu on December 12, 2024, 07:42:59 PMPresumably just the newer vehicles, so they are compliant with the new regulations?
Yes, some of the fleet is also due to be replaced so not worthwhile retrofitting.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on December 12, 2024, 08:21:17 PMYes, some of the fleet is also due to be replaced so not worthwhile retrofitting.
I have to say you guys are a credit to the local bus industry, your average fleet age is around 6 years old, and your oldest vehicle is from 2016, and you're already looking at replacing older vehicles!
You've come a long way since you got your first Euro6 vehicles - I recall working at Unipart in Solihull at the time and we sorted you out with your first 205L barrel of Adblue delivered direct to your depot!
I really must try and have a ride on more of your routes around Solihull next year!
Brand new ENVIRO 200 mmc delivered to landflight out on driver training YX74 OOA
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on December 16, 2024, 02:20:02 PMBrand new ENVIRO 200 mmc delivered to landflight out on driver training YX74 OOA
YX74OOB , YX74OPA and SK74ATY ,SK74ATZ also reported as delivered, reported on either Bustimes or BLOTW. Can anyone confirm how many new buses are on order please ? Thanks.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on December 16, 2024, 02:20:02 PMBrand new ENVIRO 200 mmc delivered to landflight out on driver training YX74 OOA
This was in service on the A8 yesterday.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on December 20, 2024, 07:26:57 PMYX74OOB , YX74OPA and SK74ATY ,SK74ATZ also reported as delivered, reported on either Bustimes or BLOTW. Can anyone confirm how many new buses are on order please ? Thanks.
Possibly another three due?
Looking at the vehicle list on BusTimes, there's a gap in the ID numbers between 62 and 66.
https://bustimes.org/operators/landflight/vehicles
Quote from: Stu on December 21, 2024, 11:08:28 AMPossibly another three due?
Looking at the vehicle list on BusTimes, there's a gap in the ID numbers between 62 and 66.
https://bustimes.org/operators/landflight/vehicles
Not necessarily, there is also a gap between 50 and 55 too.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on December 20, 2024, 07:26:57 PMYX74OOB , YX74OPA and SK74ATY ,SK74ATZ also reported as delivered, reported on either Bustimes or BLOTW. Can anyone confirm how many new buses are on order please ? Thanks.
8 of 10 new vehicles now in service. Just YX74 OOE/OPV stil to be prepped to enter service. OOC/D have both entered service this week.
Anyone know why YX69 NUF is down as SORN on DVLA?
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on February 12, 2025, 06:36:41 PMAnyone know why YX69 NUF is down as SORN on DVLA?
SORN - "Statutory Off Road Notification"
Vehicle owners may choose to do this if the vehicle is going to be kept off-road for an extended period of time, so they either don't have to pay road tax or can get a refund on any tax already paid. In the case of this bus, could be for a number of reasons, perhaps it suffered accident damage and is awaiting assessment/repairs, or is surplus to requirements and is just being kept in storage (but not necessarily 'withdrawn').
QuoteAnyone know why YX69 NUF is down as SORN on DVLA?
Could also be its just a donor bus at the moment
Sampled a ride on the 664 this afternoon. Travelled from Solihull town centre all the way round the loop back to Shirley.
I've travelled once before on its predecessor the A4 from Maypole to Solihull so I partly knew what to expect. Some nice scenic countryside views to be had!
Vehicle was YX22 OHD, so not one of the newest ones, but I wouldn't have guessed, still very smartly presented inside and spotlessly clean, and as a bonus, properly working next stop audio/visual announcements.
Hats off to the driver for their level of attention and care - while on Houndsfield Road heading towards Wythall, he had to pull towards the kerbside to let some oncoming cars come through that were avoiding a badly parked car that was picking someone up; while doing so the bus brushed against some tree branches, I heard the driver saying something to himself, then he reversed back slightly to adjust the bus angle, so when he pulled away the branches wouldn't scratch along the length of the bus. Then when we got to the Wythall Church stop, he got out to adjust the mirror.
There was a good loading on leaving Solihull, but most had got off before we reached Dickens Heath; picked up a few more at Maypole, most of whom got off round Hollywood and Truemans Heath, with one couple and their child getting off at Becketts Farm.
It's a shame because Landflight clearly are a top-quality independent operator, and a credit to Solihull and it's surrounding villages. I hope there will be a place for them in any future franchised network.
Quote from: Stu on February 22, 2025, 05:06:36 PMSampled a ride on the 664 this afternoon. Travelled from Solihull town centre all the way round the loop back to Shirley.
I've travelled once before on its predecessor the A4 from Maypole to Solihull so I partly knew what to expect. Some nice scenic countryside views to be had!
Vehicle was YX22 OHD, so not one of the newest ones, but I wouldn't have guessed, still very smartly presented inside and spotlessly clean, and as a bonus, properly working next stop audio/visual announcements.
Hats off to the driver for their level of attention and care - while on Houndsfield Road heading towards Wythall, he had to pull towards the kerbside to let some oncoming cars come through that were avoiding a badly parked car that was picking someone up; while doing so the bus brushed against some tree branches, I heard the driver saying something to himself, then he reversed back slightly to adjust the bus angle, so when he pulled away the branches wouldn't scratch along the length of the bus. Then when we got to the Wythall Church stop, he got out to adjust the mirror.
There was a good loading on leaving Solihull, but most had got off before we reached Dickens Heath; picked up a few more at Maypole, most of whom got off round Hollywood and Truemans Heath, with one couple and their child getting off at Becketts Farm.
It's a shame because Landflight clearly are a top-quality independent operator, and a credit to Solihull and it's surrounding villages. I hope there will be a place for them in any future franchised network.
Never once had any problems Everytime I've been on a landflight bus. Drivers are very talented there too
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/YRNF2X7WMtx5Mbcc9)(https://photos.app.goo.gl/dqVRNCqbns14LsFr8)
Landflight YX74 OPA has received a dedication for a driver as seen in the picture
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/3ZZCuK9zTpxkfdjUA)
Quote from: joseph88 on April 07, 2025, 06:40:27 PM(https://photos.app.goo.gl/YRNF2X7WMtx5Mbcc9)(https://photos.app.goo.gl/dqVRNCqbns14LsFr8)
Landflight YX74 OPA has received a dedication for a driver as seen in the picture
I'm not seeing the pictures coming up? Is that because I am a new member?
The text is as follows:
"In memory of Jim McAssey 1964-2025"
Quote from: joseph88 on April 07, 2025, 07:09:41 PM(https://photos.app.goo.gl/3ZZCuK9zTpxkfdjUA)I'm not seeing the pictures coming up? Is that because I am a new member?
The text is as follows:
"In memory of Jim McAssey 1964-2025"
No, it's not a valid image URL, so the forum software can't display it - the link you used is to a shared album, not an individual image.
Anyone know what's happened to YX16 OCZ please?
Quote from: joseph88 on April 07, 2025, 06:40:27 PM(https://photos.app.goo.gl/YRNF2X7WMtx5Mbcc9)(https://photos.app.goo.gl/dqVRNCqbns14LsFr8)
Landflight YX74 OPA has received a dedication for a driver as seen in the picture
A lovely gentleman he was and a wonderful gesture by LandFlight.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on April 07, 2025, 07:52:50 PMAnyone know what's happened to YX16 OCZ please?
The road tax was renewed in March but the MOT has expired?
Quote from: MW on April 07, 2025, 10:06:57 PMA lovely gentleman he was and a wonderful gesture by LandFlight.
pictures from my google photos account,
picture of dedication
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/qMzTopWc55umPsMD9)picture of bus (https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z11jZq2TyEWkkp337)
Sad as he was not very old
Does any one know where 42 YX16 OCZ is please
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on June 18, 2025, 07:20:20 AMDoes any one know where 42 YX16 OCZ is please
Long Term VOR
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on June 18, 2025, 07:20:20 AMDoes any one know where 42 YX16 OCZ is please
Now back on the road!