https://bustimes.org/vehicles?fbclid=IwAR0i8go_7HSuw3RBAVj9UeVfrEIWHpORWnHsrAPoxKYgBwC2XEmcmxUg6J0
I've just come across this.
Does anyone know how this works, (e.g where they get this info from)? Seems to be pleanty of buses tracking down in Cornwall and Xplore Dundee buses as well.
No West Midlands buses seem to be showing on there other than strangely 4 Wolverhampton B7RLE seem to be showing up on this tracker such as 2013?
https://bustimes.org/data
As found in the footer
can anyone find a national express west midlands tracker with the fleet?
bustimes.org appear to be tracking a handful of NXWM & NXC routes, now; just PB & WA routes on the WM side, at the moment.
PB:
16, 54, X3
WA
4, 937, X51
Coventry
4, 5, 6, 6A, 10, 16
Quote from: CL on July 13, 2019, 10:33:07 AM
bustimes.org appear to be tracking a handful of NXWM & NXC routes, now; just PB & WA routes on the WM side, at the moment.
PB:
16, 54, X3
WA
4, 937, X51
Coventry
4, 5, 6, 6A, 10, 16
WA's 6 & 10 were also tracking yesterday.
Vehicles on WN 5, 6, 10, 15 & 16 also track now
Quote from: Nathan on July 13, 2019, 11:28:55 AM
WA's 6 & 10 were also tracking yesterday.
Vehicles on WN 5, 6, 10, 15 & 16 also track now
WN's 4 and 25 also track
bustimes.org will predict these will appear:
AG: 11A/C
PB: 7, 52, 65/67, 94, 101, 907
PN: 6, 9, 126, X10,
WB: 74, 82/87
In what seems to be a major positive step forward Stagecoach buses appear to be tracking on Bustimes all over the country with data back to June. Come on Arriva and NX pull your finger out!
This is a very useful tool for those who are looking for specific buses. I note that Perry Barr is among the garages that have routes tracking on the system and will be looking for 4780 when in Brum soon.
Quote from: JoNi on August 17, 2019, 11:05:33 AM
In what seems to be a major positive step forward Stagecoach buses appear to be tracking on Bustimes all over the country with data back to June. Come on Arriva and NX pull your finger out!
Pretty much the entirety of Stagecoach stuff have been tracking for a few months now, though only visible on the fleet lists section, as logged in on x route at y time. Even that has been useful for me in recent times!
Quote from: jtaylor69 on February 06, 2019, 07:53:23 AM
https://bustimes.org/data
As found in the footer
The site seems to be using sources in a variety of different though not too dissimilar proprietary formats. For example for Reading
https://rtl2.ods-live.co.uk//api/vehiclePositions?key=
Actually another similar tracking too which covers Manchester is
https://traze.app/
Many Arriva Operators have appeared on Bustimes complete with trip details and journey punctuality in some cases, e.g. Leicester and Merseyside
Noticed Discount Travel Solutions, RK Travel and Claribels services have buses tracking on the bus tracker now.
https://bustimes.org/map#14/52.4859/-1.8363
Am I right in presuming that ticket machine data only reports fleetnumbers or registration depending on operator and thus the fleetlists on bustimes are only as reliable as any other enthusiast sites
Quote from: mikestone on January 02, 2021, 09:19:44 PM
Am I right in presuming that ticket machine data only reports fleetnumbers or registration depending on operator and thus the fleetlists on bustimes are only as reliable as any other enthusiast sites
Yes, the veg can amend the fleetlists as well so occasionally some complete rubbish can appear. It's unusual for that to happen, but does. More usually it is vehicles missing that haven't tracked yet because the machine isn't programmed
How come the streetlites dont track at nxbus but did at perry barr
Quote from: Solo1 on January 02, 2021, 10:46:42 PM
How come the streetlites dont track at nxbus but did at perry barr
The routes they are on at WN don't track on bustimes
Quote from: BH2004 on January 02, 2021, 11:10:05 PM
The routes they are on at WN don't track on bustimes
how come
Quote from: Solo1 on January 02, 2021, 11:24:18 PM
how come
I don't know the only routes that track from WN are 4, 5, 6, 6A, 10, 10A, 10B, 15, 16 and 25. 435 has been on the 15 when it was first in service at WN
Quote from: BH2004 on January 02, 2021, 11:28:04 PM
I don't know the only routes that track from WN are 4, 5, 6, 6A, 10, 10A, 10B, 15, 16 and 25. 435 has been on the 15 when it was first in service at WN
i know wish more of them tracked
Quote from: Solo1 on January 02, 2021, 11:35:08 PM
i know wish more of them tracked
Same.
I would especially like 1, 2, 3, 8, 59 , 61, 62, 62A and 82
Quote from: Solo1 on January 02, 2021, 11:24:18 PM
how come
I mean they do on google maps so it must be the system they use or something.
4610 has started tracking on the 60 on bustimes
Update: now running dead back to BC
Quote from: BH2004 on February 17, 2021, 07:40:47 PM
4610 has started tracking on the 60 on bustimes
Update: now running dead back to BC
A few more BC tridents have appeared, 4445 on the 97 and 4616 on the 14. It also picked up a dead journey on 4446 on Garrison Lane
Quote from: John on February 17, 2021, 08:56:38 PM
A few more BC tridents have appeared, 4445 on the 97 and 4616 on the 14. It also picked up a dead journey on 4446 on Garrison Lane
Some of WN's are tracking on other routes too. 4429 is currently tracking on the 79.
Buses are now tracking out of service, a few at WN currently
BC-4627, BC-4616, WN-4433, WN-4431, WN-4427, BC-4618, BC-4614, BC-4621, WN-4426, WN-4429, BC-4449, BC-4446, BC-4610, BC-4445, WN-4439
all are on the BODS open data feed when I checked the API feed a few mins ago.
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 18, 2021, 12:03:08 AM
BC-4627, BC-4616, WN-4433, WN-4431, WN-4427, BC-4618, BC-4614, BC-4621, WN-4426, WN-4429, BC-4449, BC-4446, BC-4610, BC-4445, WN-4439
all are on the BODS open data feed when I checked the API feed a few mins ago.
AG 4301 is now tracking too.
Some are wrongly tracking as Metroline buses this morning for some reason
Very good, there is bound to be the odd glitch here and there. It went live in middle of morning peak so picked up many buses in middle of journeys.
4578 is heading down Meriden by pass presumably heading for its MOT in Coventry.
The electric buses are shown as white but this appears to be a system problem as fleet numbers can only be numeric and its not noticeable that TfL hasn't been included which still has letters and numbers in fleet numbers of a large number of Operators.
6825 is showing as "SN66WEH", which is 6823's reg.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278496
Folks, we don't need lists of buses which are showing on BusTimes.org please. ;)
National Express West Midlands's feed has been set as 'published' on BODS:
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/3338/
So it is fair to say that all their active vehicles should be tracking on BusTimes now.
Quote from: Stu on February 18, 2021, 12:01:26 PM
Folks, we don't need lists of buses which are showing on BusTimes.org please. ;)
National Express West Midlands's feed has been set as 'published' on BODS:
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/3338/
So it is fair to say that all their active vehicles should be tracking on BusTimes now.
There are contact details on Bustimes website to either email or tweet them. I dont envy them trying to run the site but I got a reply to feedback I sent which wasn't a list of incorrect fleetnumbers. Not surprisingly they don't commit to reply to every email but say all emails are read.
https://bustimes.org/contact
Init, unlike ticketer, doesn't hold the bus identity in the driver interface equipment, so you should never see an incorrect fleetnumber like you do with many operators when the cab equipment is swapped.
There are currently about 20 of the fleet where the tracker isn't working, so these won't show until that is fixed. 4530 currently on the 4 is one.
Man, I just loaded the map on bustimes.org and once I had zoomed in, there were buses everywhere!
Quote from: John on February 18, 2021, 10:23:00 AM
Some are wrongly tracking as Metroline buses this morning for some reason
That's down to PB using the same operator code as Metroline, 'because clown show' according to the developer.
https://github.com/jclgoodwin/bustimes.org/commit/5547a5be214863b1894d4eefef4e692031995868
Quote from: ellspurs on February 18, 2021, 01:17:05 PM
Man, I just loaded the map on bustimes.org and once I had zoomed in, there were buses everywhere!
It would appear to me that as well as NX West Midlands, most West Midlands operators vehicles are tracking on the map now.
Quote from: DJ on February 18, 2021, 01:45:12 PM
That's down to PB using the same operator code as Metroline, 'because clown show' according to the developer.
https://github.com/jclgoodwin/bustimes.org/commit/5547a5be214863b1894d4eefef4e692031995868
Not really surprising that Metroline use PB for Potters Bar, and NXWM use PB for Perry Barr
Really interesting to look at! I've noticed that WN services start with N, WA services with W, PN services with D and WB services with H. What do the H and N stand for, for WB & WN? I'm guessing the others are Walsall & Dudley...?
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on February 18, 2021, 04:34:27 PM
Really interesting to look at! I've noticed that WN services start with N, WA services with W, PN services with D and WB services with H. What do the H and N stand for, for WB & WN? I'm guessing the others are Walsall & Dudley...?
Probably uses the old WMPTE way of doing things as they did with Fleetnumbers. wolverhamptoN west bromwicH
As they did with the corporation fleets H, L, N, Y
Just looked at Walsall depot.
That's never how they park the vehicles surely?
Quote from: Westy on February 18, 2021, 06:47:56 PM
Just looked at Walsall depot.
That's never how they park the vehicles surely?
The vehicle location data is not 100% accurate ;)
Quote from: Stu on February 18, 2021, 07:17:19 PM
The vehicle location data is not 100% accurate ;)
Thank god for that!
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2021, 12:57:55 PM
Init, unlike ticketer, doesn't hold the bus identity in the driver interface equipment, so you should never see an incorrect fleetnumber like you do with many operators when the cab equipment is swapped.
There are currently about 20 of the fleet where the tracker isn't working, so these won't show until that is fixed. 4530 currently on the 4 is one.
Apart from those obvious exceptions, it is probably fair to say that the "Buses To Find" topic is mostly redundant now then? ;D
Some buses are tracking without a route. and spotting 6927 having the same registration as 6932
Quote from: busboy31 on February 19, 2021, 11:50:24 AM
Some buses are tracking without a route. and spotting 6927 having the same registration as 6932
Just fixed the latter issue, thanks for pointing it out.
Looks like some of the BC Platinums were travelling round Birmingham during the early hours of the morning from the tracking, . 7525, 7529, 7530. Presume these are staff bus services. But they seem to have been to loads of places.
Quote from: busboy31 on February 19, 2021, 11:50:24 AM
Some buses are tracking without a route. and spotting 6927 having the same registration as 6932
I believe the vehicles not showing a route will be those running 'not in service'.
Quote from: 2206 on February 19, 2021, 01:36:01 PM
Presume these are staff bus services. But they seem to have been to loads of places.
Drivers don't all live together you know! ;D ;)
Quote from: Stu on February 19, 2021, 01:45:50 PM
I believe the vehicles not showing a route will be those running 'not in service'.
Drivers don't all live together you know! ;D ;)
I thought they all slept at the depot like the buses do, the more you know, hey? ;D
Dead runs and anything not in normal service should not be freely available to the public to view in my opinion. Soon, some of the more loony enthusiasts will be working out where certain drivers live, and which takeaway the engineers ate from the night before...
I'm surprised National Express have released this information.
Quote from: 2206 on February 19, 2021, 01:36:01 PM
Looks like some of the BC Platinums were travelling round Birmingham during the early hours of the morning from the tracking, . 7525, 7529, 7530. Presume these are staff bus services. But they seem to have been to loads of places.
Yeah, I have seen one of these turning out of Adderley Street at around 0315-0330 last Tuesday. It stated staff bus on it. They'll be going to places close to where the staff live, hence the loads of places?
Quote from: MW on February 19, 2021, 05:46:01 PM
Dead runs and anything not in normal service should not be freely available to the public to view in my opinion. Soon, some of the more loony enthusiasts will be working out where certain drivers live, and which takeaway the engineers ate from the night before...
I'm surprised National Express have released this information.
I don't know exactly how this system works, but I would agree, there must be some way or functionality for only reporting vehicle location to the open data feeds when the vehicle is in active service.
I noticed yesterday for example that 6945 was tracking up at Darlington where it is at Cummins having work done (as per this post (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5912.msg288705#msg288705)) and enjoyed a little run out up there.
I don't think there is any need for this vehicle's location to be reported to the general public.
I noticed 2150 did a run last night at 0200 returning at 0230 from the depot to Wyken Crescent and back. It did not specify what it was doing but not shown as dead - however it followed the route 10 there and back and you couldn't really tell where it stopped because of the lag on the GPS info. There was also a Stagecoach bus in Nuneaton bus station at the same time.
I only noticed because I'd seen the conglomeration of vehicles being parked at the depot - presumably stop tracking when the vehicle's turned off. However I was curious when the bus left and made a journey (I guess staff bus or engineer activity).
I noticed the NXWM electrics don't include the fleet number (except E024 had it) - presumably bus times will have to input it manually.
I personally can't see the problem with this info being available as only curious insomniac bus enthusiasts like me would be interested - you can get far more surprising available info on aircraft locations for instance on line!! I guess the armchair plane spotters have fun!!
Can anyone explain the significance of the numbers next to the journey time when you drill down into the vehicle details? Thanks.
Quote from: SO6597 on February 19, 2021, 09:42:42 PM
Can anyone explain the significance of the numbers next to the journey time when you drill down into the vehicle details? Thanks.
I think its to do with the journey number in the timetables/running boards.
WN 11 Still isn't tracking
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 19, 2021, 09:47:06 PM
I think its to do with the journey number in the timetables/running boards.
Ok, thanks.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 10:06:13 PM
WN 11 Still isn't tracking
Yes it is, can see 845 & 853 on there now.
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2021, 10:19:30 PM
Yes it is, can see 845 & 853 on there now.
My mistake
Quote from: don on February 19, 2021, 06:38:37 PM
I noticed 2150 did a run last night at 0200 returning at 0230 from the depot to Wyken Crescent and back. It did not specify what it was doing but not shown as dead - however it followed the route 10 there and back and you couldn't really tell where it stopped because of the lag on the GPS info. There was also a Stagecoach bus in Nuneaton bus station at the same time.
I only noticed because I'd seen the conglomeration of vehicles being parked at the depot - presumably stop tracking when the vehicle's turned off. However I was curious when the bus left and made a journey (I guess staff bus or engineer activity).
I noticed the NXWM electrics don't include the fleet number (except E024 had it) - presumably bus times will have to input it manually.
I personally can't see the problem with this info being available as only curious insomniac bus enthusiasts like me would be interested - you can get far more surprising available info on aircraft locations for instance on line!! I guess the armchair plane spotters have fun!!
Stagecoach have a 767/766 run from Nuneaton to Tamworth via Birch Coppice that leaves Nuneaton at around 0325 (I usually end up following it through Hartshill on my way to work), and one starting in Birch Coppice at 0315, so it was probably a staff bus.
London Overground refused a FoI request for diagrams and working timetables on the grounds of danger to staff travelling to and from depots in night hours - rather ludicrous given that Network Rail issue the Working Timetables online!
Is that tracking map correct for 6751?
According to Twitter, there's a diversion affecting the Great Barr area, but 6751 doesn't seem to be following it, appearing to be somewhere in Handsworth.
Also there were some buses 'stuck' at M6 J7, but they've disappeared!
How does this tracking work?
Where is the information being picked up?
Should diversions be picked up on there?
Quote from: Westy on February 23, 2021, 10:08:18 PM
Is that tracking map correct for 6751?
According to Twitter, there's a diversion affecting the Great Barr area, but 6751 doesn't seem to be following it, appearing to be somewhere in Handsworth.
Also there were some buses 'stuck' at M6 J7, but they've disappeared!
How does this tracking work?
Where is the information being picked up?
Should diversions be picked up on there?
I think the X51 was on diversion but I can't remeber why
Scott arms is closed
Quote from: Westy on February 23, 2021, 10:08:18 PM
Is that tracking map correct for 6751?
According to Twitter, there's a diversion affecting the Great Barr area, but 6751 doesn't seem to be following it, appearing to be somewhere in Handsworth.
Also there were some buses 'stuck' at M6 J7, but they've disappeared!
How does this tracking work?
Where is the information being picked up?
Should diversions be picked up on there?
The tracking information is taken from the gps on the ticket machines, or in some cases, gps software on the bus. It takes the vehicle ID info from these too.
Interesting to notice some 'anomalies '.
For example, instead of a 326 to Bilston operating via Central Drive onto Dudleys Fields in Bloxwich, I've just watched the map show said vehicle go up the railway line then Sneyd Lane!
Brighton & Hove is now showing the number of free seats and wheelchair seats if you click on any bus on a map.
For example:-
https://bustimes.org/services/2-rottingdean-woodingdean-brighton-hove-shoreham-s#map
Quote from: Roy on April 17, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
Brighton & Hove is now showing the number of free seats and wheelchair seats if you click on any bus on a map.
For example:-
https://bustimes.org/services/2-rottingdean-woodingdean-brighton-hove-shoreham-s#map
As do Go North-East, I've noticed
Interesting to notice vehicles being shown 'off site', such as Hartshornes & Powertrain.
By the way, how come I've seen the Walsall 37 come along Bentley Lane Reedswood, rather than a 41?
I know the vehicle interworks on the 2 services, so has something not been changed, or another fault?
I noticed pens veh 729 appears to be off the radar? Although 730
appears to be in regular use on a 24 service? is 729 viewable in pensnett
garage yard maybe??? or is it permanently classed as 'dead'
Quote from: windy miller on May 16, 2021, 06:23:44 PM
I noticed pens veh 729 appears to be off the radar? Although 730
appears to be in regular use on a 24 service? is 729 viewable in pensnett
garage yard maybe??? or is it permanently classed as 'dead'
Its just waiting some spare parts for defective doors
Something I noticed today on Bustimes.org was that vehicles were showing 'blocks' next to each trip they did. After doing some research, I came to the conclusion that these were driver boards which they were displaying. I noticed these 'blocks' on vehicles operated by compaies who use Ticketers! But not NX as they use INIT!
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 27, 2021, 04:07:00 PM
Something I noticed today on Bustimes.org was that vehicles were showing 'blocks' next to each trip they did. After doing some research, I came to the conclusion that these were driver boards which they were displaying. I noticed these 'blocks' on vehicles operated by compaies who use Ticketers! But not NX as they use INIT!
Yes, it is, as Ticketer requires you to input the duty/board number.
2132 on 31 in Bloxwich but displaying 32 on BusTimes!
A similar thing has happened where an X3 has been parked in Lichfield tracking as an X4
Bustimes.org has now put the destination on the nxwm vehicles when tracking
Quote from: SN65 OMC on July 03, 2021, 08:05:14 PM
Bustimes.org has now put the destination on the nxwm vehicles when tracking
Are you sure? I can't see any destinations
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 04, 2021, 06:42:39 AM
Are you sure? I can't see any destinations
They did last night when SN65 OMC posted. Every operator I clicked on had it last night (Trent Barton's naming schemes don't lend well to this system).
This morning they're missing for the NXWM/NXC ones I've just clicked on, but are there for National Express Coaches/Arriva/Stagecoach.
Must be a glitch with the information transferring across.
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 04, 2021, 06:42:39 AM
Are you sure? I can't see any destinations
They were there last night but the destinations seem to have disappeared because the the timetables aren't on there for some reason
Quote from: SN65 OMC on July 04, 2021, 09:42:36 AM
They were there last night but the destinations seem to have disappeared because the the timetables aren't on there for some reason
They seem to be reappearing slowly
Thank you. I can now see them online
Wonder when select bus will be updated to show the Stafford services
Quote from: Solo1 on July 06, 2021, 01:01:00 PM
Wonder when select bus will be updated to show the Stafford services
Presumably when the data feeds that BusTimes uses get updated.
Why have 4502's details gone off bustimes? Is it not going to return to service?
Quote from: Jack on July 07, 2021, 05:04:49 PM
Why have 4502's details gone off bustimes? Is it not going to return to service?
It will return, I have no idea why it has been taken off. A lot of money is being spent on it at Hartshornes at the moment
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2021, 05:27:35 PM
It will return, I have no idea why it has been taken off. A lot of money is being spent on it at Hartshornes at the moment
It'll return to the list on there when it tracks again, from what I recall.
All select bus Services now tracking as added the new Stafford services 7 8 9 103/4 875/a
Quote from: Solo1 on July 10, 2021, 07:09:02 AM
select bus Stafford services now tracking
They've been tracking for ages.
Quote from: Pat on July 10, 2021, 08:14:30 PM
They've been tracking for ages.
only shows 11 12 in Stafford till yesterday when they added all the service a to the tracker
Quote from: Solo1 on July 11, 2021, 02:51:09 AM
only shows 11 12 in Stafford till yesterday when they added all the service a to the tracker
Nope, all services been tracking.
Quote from: Pat on July 11, 2021, 05:05:36 PM
Nope, all services been tracking.
They mean the services that Select have recently acquired from Chaserider, they were NOT tracking on Thursday when I checked but on Saturday they all started to track
WN2019 tracking as a 59 currently showing in a field in Ivetsy Bank just off the A5 near to Westn Park!
It's off to the V Festival!
Bus 2205 YX15OYT currently tracking in South Anston, east of Sheffield.
Is this a tracking error is it in South Yorkshire?
Quote from: Wumpty on August 18, 2021, 12:26:22 PM
Bus 2205 YX15OYT currently tracking in South Anston, east of Sheffield.
Is this a tracking error is it in South Yorkshire?
Plaxtons?
WN5418 tracking on M54 eastbound onto M6 southbound.
6124 currently making M42/M6 northbound.
Quote from: Wumpty on September 14, 2021, 12:24:49 PM
6124 currently making M42/M6 northbound.
Is on way to MoT exam
4932 tracking in Worcestershire - nice day out for it!
4581 having a day out in Essex apparently LOL!
Just seen a Diamond Bus numbered 75 (21108) go into Chelmsley Wood and back out, and now it's heading up the Collector Road.
Also seen a Midland Classic X45 heading from Erdington towards the motorway. I guess this is the Amazon service, which I think I used to see around 11am as the X11?
Chaserider showing the buses out but not listed on the vehicle page of chaserider