http://www.amey.co.uk/brumtunnels.aspx
Special Park and Ride and special tickets on NX
£80 to sit in the same traffic? No thanks.
And "bus priority measures"? Bullshit.
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
£80 to sit in the same traffic? No thanks.
And "bus priority measures"? Bullshit.
So Broad Street being bus only into city with police enforcement at Five Ways isn't bus priority? That isn't the only extra bit either
Quote from: Tony on July 12, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
£80 to sit in the same traffic? No thanks.
And "bus priority measures"? Bullshit.
So Broad Street being bus only into city with police enforcement at Five Ways isn't bus priority? That isn't the only extra bit either
And will it be 100% enforced? Constantly for 6 weeks? What about the other side of town? Will we get any bus lanes?
Probably the first 2 weeks it'll be all enforced etc but it'll soon fizzle out and it'll be back to the usual. Reminds me of Moor Street actually!!
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 12, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
£80 to sit in the same traffic? No thanks.
And "bus priority measures"? Bullshit.
So Broad Street being bus only into city with police enforcement at Five Ways isn't bus priority? That isn't the only extra bit either
And will it be 100% enforced? Constantly for 6 weeks? What about the other side of town? Will we get any bus lanes?
Probably the first 2 weeks it'll be all enforced etc but it'll soon fizzle out and it'll be back to the usual. Reminds me of Moor Street actually!!
Snow Hill Queensway is also being bus only, and the cameras are being switched on in the city centre at long last
Quote from: Tony on July 12, 2013, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 12, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
£80 to sit in the same traffic? No thanks.
And "bus priority measures"? Bullshit.
So Broad Street being bus only into city with police enforcement at Five Ways isn't bus priority? That isn't the only extra bit either
And will it be 100% enforced? Constantly for 6 weeks? What about the other side of town? Will we get any bus lanes?
Probably the first 2 weeks it'll be all enforced etc but it'll soon fizzle out and it'll be back to the usual. Reminds me of Moor Street actually!!
Snow Hill Queensway is also being bus only, and the cameras are being switched on in the city centre at long last
I have seen the signs, which is positive. I really hope many fines are issued.
I reckon the roads round Paradise Circus will get busy
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 12, 2013, 06:57:24 PM
I reckon the roads round Paradise Circus will get busy
They will be because of everything coming to or going from Holloway Circus will be going around there, but it will be helped by no cars coming down Broad Street
Ex-BC Driver? Why the ex?
And don't forget Bath Row... basically the whole city is going to feel the effects of this.
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Ex-BC Driver? Why the ex?
And don't forget Bath Row... basically the whole city is going to feel the effects of this.
Been dismissed this afternoon
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 12, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Ex-BC Driver? Why the ex?
And don't forget Bath Row... basically the whole city is going to feel the effects of this.
Been dismissed this afternoon
Sorry to hear that. Wasn't your fault I guess? As usual.
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:14:52 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 12, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Ex-BC Driver? Why the ex?
And don't forget Bath Row... basically the whole city is going to feel the effects of this.
Been dismissed this afternoon
Sorry to hear that. Wasn't your fault I guess? As usual.
I'll PM you
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 12, 2013, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:14:52 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 12, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Ex-BC Driver? Why the ex?
And don't forget Bath Row... basically the whole city is going to feel the effects of this.
Been dismissed this afternoon
Sorry to hear that. Wasn't your fault I guess? As usual.
I'll PM you
Cheers mate I'll keep an eye out for it.
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:14:52 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 12, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 12, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Ex-BC Driver? Why the ex?
And don't forget Bath Row... basically the whole city is going to feel the effects of this.
Been dismissed this afternoon
Sorry to hear that. Wasn't your fault I guess? As usual.
Also really sorry to hear that. Sadly, sounds like an all too common occurrence for NXWM drivers these days.
Could always apply at green bus/diamond/another independant-also sorry to hear that you have lost your job. There must be bus driver vacancies somewhere else though
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
When I'm able to drive im going to apply to work at NXWM. I have freinds that work at PB and AG an dpn't seem to have many problems.
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
When I'm able to drive im going to apply to work at NXWM. I have freinds that work at PB and AG an dpn't seem to have many problems.
I know a few PB and AG but some inspectors complained about one of my friends wrongly which senior management seen and obv saw wrongly judged
Notice a lot of EX-NXWM drivers apply for Diamond and VIP for example
Quote from: vinh1000 on July 12, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
When I'm able to drive im going to apply to work at NXWM. I have freinds that work at PB and AG an dpn't seem to have many problems.
I know a few PB and AG but some inspectors complained about one of my friends wrongly which senior management seen and obv saw wrongly judged
Notice a lot of EX-NXWM drivers apply for Diamond and VIP for example
To me NXWM is a good company alongside Diamond.
Is there a reason NXWM are Laying off a substantial amount of Drivers ?
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on July 12, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
When I'm able to drive im going to apply to work at NXWM. I have freinds that work at PB and AG an dpn't seem to have many problems.
I know a few PB and AG but some inspectors complained about one of my friends wrongly which senior management seen and obv saw wrongly judged
Notice a lot of EX-NXWM drivers apply for Diamond and VIP for example
To me NXWM is a good company alongside Diamond.
Is there a reason NXWM are Laying off a substantial amount of Drivers ?
Pay scale most probably, like a lot of companies new staff members don't get paid as much as experienced staff
Quote from: Andrew on July 12, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on July 12, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
When I'm able to drive im going to apply to work at NXWM. I have freinds that work at PB and AG an dpn't seem to have many problems.
I know a few PB and AG but some inspectors complained about one of my friends wrongly which senior management seen and obv saw wrongly judged
Notice a lot of EX-NXWM drivers apply for Diamond and VIP for example
To me NXWM is a good company alongside Diamond.
Is there a reason NXWM are Laying off a substantial amount of Drivers ?
Pay scale most probably, like a lot of companies new staff members don't get paid as much as experienced staff
But wouldn't it be benifical to NXWM to have Experienced staff to train the new staff in a way ?
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on July 12, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 12, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 12, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Well yes but if you knew the truth you wouldn't be so mellow about it! It is terrible.
They don't tell you this at Walsall. Or on your assessments etc.
DO NOT APPLY FOR DRIVING VACANCIES AT NXWM. /Simple.
When I'm able to drive im going to apply to work at NXWM. I have freinds that work at PB and AG an dpn't seem to have many problems.
I know a few PB and AG but some inspectors complained about one of my friends wrongly which senior management seen and obv saw wrongly judged
Notice a lot of EX-NXWM drivers apply for Diamond and VIP for example
To me NXWM is a good company alongside Diamond.
Is there a reason NXWM are Laying off a substantial amount of Drivers ?
Are they laying off lots of drivers? There was a thing recently about their new recruitment drive-they need/will need lots of new drivers in the future so I doubt that they are laying off lots of drivers??
I don't work in the industry and neither will I ever, so I can only go by what you read but NXWM do sound like they have a culture where drivers lose their job for the smallest indiscretion. I really don't envy anybody that does that job. The early starts, late finishes, weekend working, split shifts, other road users, the crap they have to put up with from some of the general public. Then to top it all off you can get fired for any number of reasons. I take my hat off to those who do it but I'd be inclined to listen to someone who actually does the job if they say steer clear of it.
Can that fascinating essay on industrial relations have its own thread, please.
Back to the tunnel closures that are going to cripple the city centre for workers in it and those travelling further afield. I fully expect that by 0715 on Day One the tailbacks on the Expressway will have brought the M6 to a standstill in both directions.
The Toll Road should be brought under HA control and made free during this period, for starters, to give the north-east side a fighting chance of keeping moving.
Quote from: uniquicity on July 12, 2013, 11:41:13 PM
This tunnels thing is great. Got a 2 month bus pass for 80 quid and it doesn't affect me as I don't commute into the city.
I'm delighted for you, however that is like kicking sand in the face of those of us whose mortgages and education depend on a cross-city commute, twice a day, five days a week.
Example. Great Charles Street will effectively come to a standstill. Paradise Circus and the new multi-phase traffic light controlled junction by St Chads will be constantly full of traffic off the A38. This affects the West Brom services, Hagley Road, 101, 7 - in fact everything that has to cross that route on the flat, or join it for any distance.
My view is, yes it will cause traffic chaos, especially on Bath Row and Holloway Circus. But, when else could they do it? Schools are on holiday so less traffic in general, better than taking half a year to do it with only night closures
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 12, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Can that fascinating essay on industrial relations have its own thread, please.
Back to the tunnel closures that are going to cripple the city centre for workers in it and those travelling further afield. I fully expect that by 0715 on Day One the tailbacks on the Expressway will have brought the M6 to a standstill in both directions.
The Toll Road should be brought under HA control and made free during this period, for starters, to give the north-east side a fighting chance of keeping moving.
Personally quite enjoying the prospect of the M6 being clogged up, will give car drivers another chance to moan
School's aren't on holiday
Quote from: dgss1 on July 13, 2013, 08:10:14 AM
School's aren't on holiday
They will be by the time the tunnels close
School holidays are from 24 July to 3 Sept so there are only 2 weekdays of tunnel closures where schools are still open.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 12, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Can that fascinating essay on industrial relations have its own thread, please.
Apologies, off topic, guilty as charged.
I personally am very concerned about the first day of the full closure - Saturday 20th July. Not only will traffic probably be a nightmare on this day as people get used to the new layouts, but the EDL are also holding a big rally in Birmingham.
With recent events both locally & nationally, I feel this could turn very ugly and the police/emergency services response could be delayed due to the fact the City Centre will no doubt be like a car park, or, a coach load of EDL supporters stuck in traffic surrounded by many anti-EDL people could not be a pleasant experience. (or vice versa)
Oh dear. I hadn't realised those undesirables had got that planned. What a waste of police effort having to keep the marauding hot-heads and their thugs under control. Off topic, as charged!
Surely the Police could use the traffic fears about Day One to get this vile rally banned...?
why don't they close one direction at a time?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 13, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
why don't they close one direction at a time?
That's too logical for BCC
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 13, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
why don't they close one direction at a time?
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Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 13, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
why don't they close one direction at a time?
Close one direction at a time?
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Because., due to the time limit imposed., it is more quickening to do it in one block
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on July 13, 2013, 03:31:33 PM
Because., due to the time limit imposed., it is more quickening to do it in one block
Sorry, I should've explained..
That was the reaction of BCC Chairman haha!
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
Exactly the same as NXWM are doing
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
Exactly the same as NXWM are doing
Oh right lol but I'm sure it will be beneficial for people travelling that way and are NXWM's fares the same as well? Really good idea and hopefully if well used and publicised then it should keep the congestion down. Cant help feeling that advertising to bus users is a bit pointless as people on diamond's website probably wont want to drive anyway-they need to if they havent already publicise it on local radio/news/the tunnels website so car users know about it
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
Exactly the same as NXWM are doing
Oh right lol but I'm sure it will be beneficial for people travelling that way and are NXWM's fares the same as well? Really good idea and hopefully if well used and publicised then it should keep the congestion down. Cant help feeling that advertising to bus users is a bit pointless as people on diamond's website probably wont want to drive anyway-they need to if they havent already publicise it on local radio/news/the tunnels website so car users know about it
Yes NXWM fares are the same. Good idea, only people I can see using that site are people driving in down Aldridge Road. Awkward to get to from any other road except Walsall Road and most people coming down Walsall Road will be on the first flyover missing it
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2013, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
Exactly the same as NXWM are doing
Oh right lol but I'm sure it will be beneficial for people travelling that way and are NXWM's fares the same as well? Really good idea and hopefully if well used and publicised then it should keep the congestion down. Cant help feeling that advertising to bus users is a bit pointless as people on diamond's website probably wont want to drive anyway-they need to if they havent already publicise it on local radio/news/the tunnels website so car users know about it
Yes NXWM fares are the same. Good idea, only people I can see using that site are people driving in down Aldridge Road. Awkward to get to from any other road except Walsall Road and most people coming down Walsall Road will be on the first flyover missing it
Its a shame but I guess the only site suitable and even small things like this help. How often do NX buses go from this car park then?
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2013, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
Exactly the same as NXWM are doing
Oh right lol but I'm sure it will be beneficial for people travelling that way and are NXWM's fares the same as well? Really good idea and hopefully if well used and publicised then it should keep the congestion down. Cant help feeling that advertising to bus users is a bit pointless as people on diamond's website probably wont want to drive anyway-they need to if they havent already publicise it on local radio/news/the tunnels website so car users know about it
Yes NXWM fares are the same. Good idea, only people I can see using that site are people driving in down Aldridge Road. Awkward to get to from any other road except Walsall Road and most people coming down Walsall Road will be on the first flyover missing it
Its a shame but I guess the only site suitable and even small things like this help. How often do NX buses go from this car park then?
About every 2 minutes!
Passengers are generally being directed onto the 934, 935, 936, 997 which are about every 5 minutes between them, but tickets can also be used on the 33 and 907. There is also going to be a bus on standby so if the car park is busy at any particular time so a large crowd appears, or there is a lage gap in the service the standby bus will operate a 934E journey from Perry barr to City and back
Quote from: Peter123 on July 16, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Here is diamond's solution
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/BirminghamTunnelsClosuresTakethe56fromthenewParkRidesiteatPerryBarr_110.html
I love this, not taking the piss or anything, bit this makes it effectively look like:
Diamond: "look, we've got a bus every half hour from here to get you into town, aren't we good?"
NX: "...and we have one every 5 mins..."
4538 and an Omnilink (possibly 1900?) were parked up in the lay by at the end of Newtown Row, just before Lancaster Circus towards city at around 5.30 this evening. Presumably these are spares ready to fill in gaps in Walsall Road / Kingstanding services if needs be during the tunnel closures?
Quote from: Mike K on July 22, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
4538 and an Omnilink (possibly 1900?) were parked up in the lay by at the end of Newtown Row, just before Lancaster Circus towards city at around 5.30 this evening. Presumably these are spares ready to fill in gaps in Walsall Road / Kingstanding services if needs be during the tunnel closures?
The OmniLink was 1930. I saw them there at about 1pm
Quote from: Gareth on July 22, 2013, 11:18:01 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 22, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
4538 and an Omnilink (possibly 1900?) were parked up in the lay by at the end of Newtown Row, just before Lancaster Circus towards city at around 5.30 this evening. Presumably these are spares ready to fill in gaps in Walsall Road / Kingstanding services if needs be during the tunnel closures?
The OmniLink was 1930. I saw them there at about 1pm
Thanks. I was emerging from about the only open tunnel in Birmingham at the time so only got a fleeting view. With ex PN B6s moving to PL and nothing yet leaving, I'm assuming this is creating the spare capacity for 4538 etc to be used as spares during the tunnel closures.
What was 277 doing exactly? Other than looking pretty shabby and sorry for itself, surely to advertise the park and ride services you would at least use a double decker!
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on July 23, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
What was 277 doing exactly? Other than looking pretty shabby and sorry for itself, surely to advertise the park and ride services you would at least use a double decker!
You cannot get anything bigger than that solo in the car park. You are also able to buy return tickets for the Park & Ride from it. Advantage being it has a stock of change which the drivers in service do not have
I personally feel the Perry Barr P&R wasn't very well advertised. It was only a couple of days before the closure it really became noticeable on the NXWM website (prior to that it was hidden away on the site).
I drove along the A34 from Walsall the day before the closure, and I didn't notice anything at all informing me of this new option.
Are 4537-40 going to be used as and when needed for covering gaps in service due to tunnel closures or will they be loaned to to a different garage as i noticed 4539 still in Wolverhampton on the 529 today
Quote from: notepanel on July 23, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
I personally feel the Perry Barr P&R wasn't very well advertised. It was only a couple of days before the closure it really became noticeable on the NXWM website (prior to that it was hidden away on the site).
I drove along the A34 from Walsall the day before the closure, and I didn't notice anything at all informing me of this new option.
Can't say I've been looking, but haven't seen anything obvious saying "park and ride this way" or similar on me way into town on the X51 these past few days
Birchfield Road Services
33 51 934 935 935A 936 997 X51
To resume normal line of route from 11 August 2013
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2013, 07:51:06 PM
Birchfield Road Services
33 51 934 935 935A 936 997 X51
To resume normal line of route from 11 August 2013
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
Way to complicate things I suppose... "We realised the traffic isn't that bad so we can send the buses back to their original route... except for that time when the traffic is quite bad, when we'll keep the diversion"
Couldn't they just leave it as was until the end of it all in September?
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2013, 07:51:06 PM
Birchfield Road Services
33 51 934 935 935A 936 997 X51
To resume normal line of route from 11 August 2013
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
What about the 907 and the 952
After last year's relatively successful diversions due to the tunnel closures, and fairly minor delays on journeys into the city, I was hoping for more of the same these school summer holidays. Unfortunately, today at least was an absolute nightmare - massive queues from Harborne Road up to Five Ways, then gridlock down Broad Street and very slow traffic all through the diversions. Not sure what's different to last year, but it didn't work today - loads of people late for work at my place.
Harborne and Hagley Road sevices at least must have been quite heavily delayed.
Been fine up my end in Aston this morning, no one at least at my work was late at all
I've heard a few people either at work, or friends on facebook saying that certain roads into the city were an absolute nightmare this morning.
Quote from: Gareth on July 21, 2014, 12:05:04 PM
I've heard a few people either at work, or friends on facebook saying that certain roads into the city were an absolute nightmare this morning.
I'm glad I'm on the 28 today! Really quiet on there
Quote from: Mike K on July 21, 2014, 10:34:19 AM
After last year's relatively successful diversions due to the tunnel closures, and fairly minor delays on journeys into the city, I was hoping for more of the same these school summer holidays. Unfortunately, today at least was an absolute nightmare - massive queues from Harborne Road up to Five Ways, then gridlock down Broad Street and very slow traffic all through the diversions. Not sure what's different to last year, but it didn't work today - loads of people late for work at my place.
Harborne and Hagley Road sevices at least must have been quite heavily delayed.
It is the same as last year. Broad Street was chaos on the Monday due to people ignoring all the signs to divert, then having to turn right into Bridge Street, which soon got blocked. Last year, by Wednesday people had realised Broad Street was a bad idea and it ran OK.
Broad Street services were the only ones suffering badly this morning, and that was only from about 8:20 until 9:00, Aston Expressway also suffered some delays, but not as bad as Broad Street
Quote from: Tony on July 21, 2014, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 21, 2014, 10:34:19 AM
After last year's relatively successful diversions due to the tunnel closures, and fairly minor delays on journeys into the city, I was hoping for more of the same these school summer holidays. Unfortunately, today at least was an absolute nightmare - massive queues from Harborne Road up to Five Ways, then gridlock down Broad Street and very slow traffic all through the diversions. Not sure what's different to last year, but it didn't work today - loads of people late for work at my place.
Harborne and Hagley Road sevices at least must have been quite heavily delayed.
It is the same as last year. Broad Street was chaos on the Monday due to people ignoring all the signs to divert, then having to turn right into Bridge Street, which soon got blocked. Last year, by Wednesday people had realised Broad Street was a bad idea and it ran OK.
Broad Street services were the only ones suffering badly this morning, and that was only from about 8:20 until 9:00, Aston Expressway also suffered some delays, but not as bad as Broad Street
Ok thanks - hopefully things will have settled down by the middle of the week. Took me well over an hour to go 4 miles this morning.
Runs ok when police at broad st and snow hill
I did notice some of the right turning buses backing up outside the coach station earlier back onto Bradford St, can only assume the lights haven't been changed to allow for the extra traffic.
Quote from: karl724223 on July 21, 2014, 03:28:57 PM
Runs ok when police at broad st and snow hill
The police on Broad Street aren't helping the queue there at all, and may be making it slightly worse as several people stop to argue with him. It does help keep Paradise Circus moving though and hopefully those who argue won't be there after a couple of days which is what happened last year.
Overall the police at both spots are a massive help, but on the first couple of days the do cause so delays to be a little longer
Seems everyone soon learnt, no bad delays on any route anywhere in Birmingham this morning peak
Was the traffic lights on Five Ways anything to do with this?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 22, 2014, 11:10:28 AM
Was the traffic lights on Five Ways anything to do with this?
Those are really helping Hagley Road, but not helping Harborne Road. They are being looked at to what can be done to help
Yes journey was fine this morning. LS, traffic lights at Five Ways caused massive delays down Harborne Road yesterday. I had to drive so approached Five Ways from Hagley Road today.
The Digbeth Gyratory system was at a standstill at 4.30 pm today and yesterday, I remember it being bad here last year too.
Quote from: D10 on July 22, 2014, 08:46:46 PM
The Digbeth Gyratory system was at a standstill at 4.30 pm today and yesterday, I remember it being bad here last year too.
They have attempted to improve this this year with the closure of Bradford Street between Mill Lane & Moat Lane towards City, however it's still bad! And as Tony said, the amount of people who ignore the closure warnings - so many u-turns at the closure point (although for most vehicles I really can't understand why they don't just use Mill Lane!)
On a side note, I didn't notice on any of the publicity that Bradford Street would be shut this year.