Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Discussion

[danny]

In response to N94, I think for me because the general consensus with ADL is to us the same design I was looking forward to seeing a single deck version of the MMC 400, and if the 200 was parallel on the front it would be I think, its the slope to the left glazing, looks very Japanese.

[Kevin]

I like it actually, personal opinion but think it looks better than the current E200s. The only real issue I have with the looks is as mentioned elsewhere, swb version looks stubby and squashed, but then so do the current swb E200s so maybe the longer ones will follow suit

[Liverpool Street]

Ha! First thing I thought of when looking at this piece of proverbial was "Mitsubishi Fuso 1996". Typically KMB styling it seems.

Why couldn't they of stuck with the design of the 400MMC - only make it single deck? I think its a fair presumption we're all impressed with that.

I dislike the idea of single deck vehicles being of a virtually separate design to its DD counterpart.

[Ronnoc]

Atleast it looks better then the rubbish old Enviro 200 design! Same with the Enviro 400.

[Liverpool Street]

Atleast it looks better then the rubbish old Enviro 200 design! Same with the Enviro 400.

If they're even 10% better then the old E200 then I'd be impressed.

(I'm still struggling to find out how those got commissioned in the first place. Hateful hateful machines)

[winston]

The new E200MMC's will be from 8.9M - 11.8M seating 32 up to 46.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/products/enviro200-euro6/

I wonder if the the E300 will still be MMC'd or could it now be discontinued for Euro 6 onwards?

[CL]

The new E200MMC's will be from 8.9M - 11.8M seating 32 up to 46.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/products/enviro200-euro6/

I wonder if the the E300 will still be MMC'd or could it now be discontinued for Euro 6 onwards?

Some pics from the gallery as well. I guess the driver cab door matches with the E400MMC... However I still don't like the rear window. It reminds me too much of a Volvo 7900(H).

The Interior looks far better from the exterior.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/gallery/all-new-enviro200-interior/

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/gallery/all-new-enviro200-exterior/

[Liverpool Street]

Nah. Not feeling this new E200 at all. Looking at those gallery photos on ADL site, the design is too quirky. I doubt many liveries would suit it and the layout internally just seems wrong. That rear window is ghasty, hopefully its an option and only available on top spec models (NX should avoid this segment ;-) )

They should've kept with the E400MMC front end light clusters etc, that looks impressive. The E200MMC looks... Well, too mismatched. I dare say its a nice vehicle (doubt it) - but that design isn't welcoming. I doubt bus companies give a shit anyway, I mean look at what they've done with that new Arriva Volvo bus for Derby, the Sa of the sapphire logo looks missing on the stupid windowed staircase!

[Tony]

Nah. Not feeling this new E200 at all. Looking at those gallery photos on ADL site, the design is too quirky. I doubt many liveries would suit it and the layout internally just seems wrong. That rear window is ghasty, hopefully its an option and only available on top spec models (NX should avoid this segment ;-) )

They should've kept with the E400MMC front end light clusters etc, that looks impressive. The E200MMC looks... Well, too mismatched. I dare say its a nice vehicle (doubt it) - but that design isn't welcoming. I doubt bus companies give a shit anyway, I mean look at what they've done with that new Arriva Volvo bus for Derby, the Sa of the sapphire logo looks missing on the stupid windowed staircase!

That's no Volvo LS, Wrights' own chassis with a Mercedes engine in the back

[Liverpool Street]

Nah. Not feeling this new E200 at all. Looking at those gallery photos on ADL site, the design is too quirky. I doubt many liveries would suit it and the layout internally just seems wrong. That rear window is ghasty, hopefully its an option and only available on top spec models (NX should avoid this segment ;-) )

They should've kept with the E400MMC front end light clusters etc, that looks impressive. The E200MMC looks... Well, too mismatched. I dare say its a nice vehicle (doubt it) - but that design isn't welcoming. I doubt bus companies give a shit anyway, I mean look at what they've done with that new Arriva Volvo bus for Derby, the Sa of the sapphire logo looks missing on the stupid windowed staircase!

That's no Volvo LS, Wrights' own chassis with a Mercedes engine in the back

Oh I'm mistaken! So it Wrights fully integral machine then? (Except for the Merc block in the back ha)

[Tony]

All 68 Enviro 200s in the fleet were on the road this morning. 100% availability, not bad for a rubbish bus!

Ironically the only other 100% availability was a complete extreme.... Pensnetts Mercs! - every one out today!

[winston]

All 68 Enviro 200s in the fleet were on the road this morning. 100% availability, not bad for a rubbish bus!

Ironically the only other 100% availability was a complete extreme.... Pensnetts Mercs! - every one out today!

That's why PN's Mercs keep self combusting, they're worked too hard, they need a day off......

[Liverpool Street]

All 68 Enviro 200s in the fleet were on the road this morning. 100% availability, not bad for a rubbish bus!

Ironically the only other 100% availability was a complete extreme.... Pensnetts Mercs! - every one out today!

They might all be out in the road, those E200's, but not a single one would be enjoyed by the drivers/passengers I bet!