Cannock Garage

[Bob]

Yea two 59 plates. Wonder if their days are numbered too?...

[Bob]

All of those vehicles new to Cannock (61 and 63 reg) have now gone. The newest vehicles are currently 09 reg Solos.

Dont forget the 64 plate Streetlites

[bovaman]

Yea two 59 plates. Wonder if their days are numbered too?...

I would think so as some of the Volvos have now gone, wonder when the rest will follow suit.  and also noticed another old pile of Junk on the 63 yesterday LF02PMO. Im surprised  The centros & 3740/41 are still there too tbh, time will tell ,mmmm

[Bob]

I would think so as some of the Volvos have now gone, wonder when the rest will follow suit.  and also noticed another old pile of Junk on the 63 yesterday LF02PMO. Im surprised  The centros & 3740/41 are still there too tbh, time will tell ,mmmm

I think the Volvos were just a temp move

[ellspurs]

Hey Bob, I saw a bus that I'd think would be perfect for Cannock.

http://wmbusphotos.com/ArrivaUK/ArrivaNE7474.html

I saw that bus, or one from its batch, in Dunstable today.

Out of interest, what is the oldest currently passenger-running bus in Arriva's current fleet?

[Busboy105]

Hey Bob, I saw a bus that I'd think would be perfect for Cannock.

http://wmbusphotos.com/ArrivaUK/ArrivaNE7474.html

I saw that bus, or one from its batch, in Dunstable today.

Out of interest, what is the oldest currently passenger-running bus in Arriva's current fleet?

Probably one of those buses that you posted to be honest.

[Bob]

I wonder whether Cannock will ever have any investment again to be honest? The fleets a clapped out embarrassment, the repaints are way behind other garages, refurbs are rare, ( the 3 Centros got done but were truly disgusting inside prior and put into service in that state) and the network just seems to be in managed decline. When you consider NXWM are using its oldest Platinums on the X51 and theyre STILL 6 years younger than Arrivas 2 newest buses it puts it into perspective. How are you going to attract new passengers with a fleet in that state?

[Trident 4194]

I wonder whether Cannock will ever have any investment again to be honest? The fleets a clapped out embarrassment, the repaints are way behind other garages, refurbs are rare, ( the 3 Centros got done but were truly disgusting inside prior and put into service in that state) and the network just seems to be in managed decline. When you consider NXWM are using its oldest Platinums on the X51 and theyre STILL 6 years younger than Arrivas 2 newest buses it puts it into perspective. How are you going to attract new passengers with a fleet in that state?

As an enthusiast I find cannocks fleet great. The worst ones are the b7rles they've got imo

[Bob]

Its hard to compare worst vehicles as pretty much the entire fleet is poor

[Pat]

I wonder whether Cannock will ever have any investment again to be honest? The fleets a clapped out embarrassment, the repaints are way behind other garages, refurbs are rare, ( the 3 Centros got done but were truly disgusting inside prior and put into service in that state) and the network just seems to be in managed decline. When you consider NXWM are using its oldest Platinums on the X51 and theyre STILL 6 years younger than Arrivas 2 newest buses it puts it into perspective. How are you going to attract new passengers with a fleet in that state?

As I have said in this thread many times before, Arriva simply will not invest in Cannock, as they won't see any return on that investment.  Why spend thousands, or even millions, on a network that doesn't have the passenger numbers meaning Arriva won't get anything back in return?  There really is a whole lot more to just chucking a load of money at Cannock.  I think it's safe to say that Cannock won't see any investment in the future.

Its hard to compare worst vehicles as pretty much the entire fleet is poor

The Cannock vehicles that I've used were absolutely fine.  Clean interiors, no 'threadbare' seats and they ran perfectly.

[Bob]

Clean interiors ? The seats on the SB200S/ 58 plate Volvos/Most darts /some solos absolutely stink!

[Bob]

@Pat so Cannock is basically a basket case then? Why dont they just put it out of its misery then? BTW running an increasingly knackered, elderly and tatty fleet is a surefire way of rapidly accelerating the managed decline its already in

[Pat]

@Pat so Cannock is basically a basket case then? Why dont they just put it out of its misery then? BTW running an increasingly knackered, elderly and tatty fleet is a surefire way of rapidly accelerating the managed decline its already in

You could say its a 'basket case', yes.  Arriva obviously still have the passenger numbers to warrant some form of a service, so that's why they haven't pulled out of Cannock.
It could be said that the period of decline has already happened and that this has been the 'new normal', so I wouldn't have said the current fleet is accelerating the decline.  Telford operate the same vehicles in their fleet and they run perfectly.  Perhaps it is Cannock's maintenance that causes the poor quality of the vehicles that you describe?

[Bob]

You could say its a 'basket case', yes.  Arriva obviously still have the passenger numbers to warrant some form of a service, so that's why they haven't pulled out of Cannock.
It could be said that the period of decline has already happened and that this has been the 'new normal', so I wouldn't have said the current fleet is accelerating the decline.  Telford operate the same vehicles in their fleet and they run perfectly.  Perhaps it is Cannock's maintenance that causes the poor quality of the vehicles that you describe?

Id imagine Telford has a much lower age profile?

[l.murphy123]

How does the NX £1 supplement work? What pass or ticket does that apply to?