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Started by Tony, April 30, 2021, 06:57:37 PM

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Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on May 11, 2024, 10:27:31 PMWhen is the hydrogen coming back soon?
if we had an answer it would already be posted here
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cardew

Quote from: mesub on May 13, 2024, 01:35:49 PMAn interesting read:

https://www.route-one.net/bus/fuel-supply-brings-challenges-for-more-hydrogen-bus-deployment/
I can't say I'm surprised, NX must have been so frustrated having 20 buses sitting idle for want of fuel.

So what of the WMCA's grand plans to generate hydrogen from canal water in Walsall I wonder?

The ZEBRA funding aspect is interesting, will the government allow that phase one funding to be re-specified as electric vehicles like they did for the Sprint bendis? I think the total grant was £30 million for 124 buses.

Ingleboro261F

Does that mean they might get rid of them for good?

Gareth

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on May 13, 2024, 02:51:51 PMDoes that mean they might get rid of them for good?
I wouldn't be surprised if they never came back into service. However I would like to see them back one more time, as I never even got to sample one.

Tony

Quote from: Gareth on May 13, 2024, 05:19:38 PMI wouldn't be surprised if they never came back into service. However I would like to see them back one more time, as I never even got to sample one.
They will hopefully be able to use them from next week 

Stu

Quote from: mesub on May 13, 2024, 01:35:49 PMAn interesting read:

https://www.route-one.net/bus/fuel-supply-brings-challenges-for-more-hydrogen-bus-deployment/


Quote from: cardew on May 13, 2024, 02:30:25 PMI can't say I'm surprised, NX must have been so frustrated having 20 buses sitting idle for want of fuel.

So what of the WMCA's grand plans to generate hydrogen from canal water in Walsall I wonder?

The ZEBRA funding aspect is interesting, will the government allow that phase one funding to be re-specified as electric vehicles like they did for the Sprint bendis? I think the total grant was £30 million for 124 buses.

Yes, that was an interesting read indeed. It would seem to me that based on the current experience, NX have little to no desire to pursue the hydrogen route at this time, which is understandable as it seems that the electric buses are performing better than expected.

Of course, being out in service all day every day for most of the day, carrying passengers and earning revenue, comes in very handy. :laugh:

I suppose that while NX do not intend to invest in further hydrogen-fuelled vehicles, they will still make what use they can of these 20 examples they already have. 

Great news that they can be used again from next week, if the refuelling facility is available again, but then I guess the question is how long until it breaks down again? 

I would anticipate that NX will keep hold of these hydrogens for the short-term, at least until a lot more brand-new electric buses are delivered, then at some point, maybe next year, NX will hand them back to Birmingham City Council, as I presume NX only have them under some kind of lease arrangement. What BCC do with them next is anyone's guess, but it is no longer a problem for NX to deal with!
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Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2024, 08:25:04 PMYes, that was an interesting read indeed. It would seem to me that based on the current experience, NX have little to no desire to pursue the hydrogen route at this time, which is understandable as it seems that the electric buses are performing better than expected.

Of course, being out in service all day every day for most of the day, carrying passengers and earning revenue, comes in very handy. :laugh:

I suppose that while NX do not intend to invest in further hydrogen-fuelled vehicles, they will still make what use they can of these 20 examples they already have.

Great news that they can be used again from next week, if the refuelling facility is available again, but then I guess the question is how long until it breaks down again?

I would anticipate that NX will keep hold of these hydrogens for the short-term, at least until a lot more brand-new electric buses are delivered, then at some point, maybe next year, NX will hand them back to Birmingham City Council, as I presume NX only have them under some kind of lease arrangement. What BCC do with them next is anyone's guess, but it is no longer a problem for NX to deal with!
A Hydrogen Bus actually in service, blimey, when & where can i phot such a rare beast ?
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Mayfield

If they do return to service next week better be quick to get a photo as I bet they don't last a week

Ingleboro261F

I'm guessing they are still unavailable then because they haven't come back into service this week

Tony

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on May 20, 2024, 11:34:26 AMI'm guessing they are still unavailable then because they haven't come back into service this week
They're available, but staff have to be found to get them fuelled first

Steve3229vp

Quote from: Mayfield on May 16, 2024, 09:48:26 PMIf they do return to service next week better be quick to get a photo as I bet they don't last a week
You're always positive about the Hydrogen buses aren't you !

Mayfield

And another week goes by.

Mayfield

Quote from: Steve3229vp on May 20, 2024, 03:18:45 PMYou're always positive about the Hydrogen buses aren't you !
If you can point anything positive out I will gladly take it on board.

Steve3229vp

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Quote from: Mayfield on May 24, 2024, 08:15:21 AMIf you can point anything positive out I will gladly take it on board.
The Hydrogen issue is out of NX'S hands

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