Hydrogen vehicles

[Mayfield]

I see there's no hydrogens out again today, is it another fuel station issues ?

[Justin Tyme]

I have just noticed in the West Midlands Combined Authority Board minutes of its September meeting (here, page 18) that the 24 articulated buses for Sprint will now be electric instead of hydrogen.

The WMCA received approval from Department for Transport Ministers in July for the change.  The delivery timeline for the full project has been extended to May 2026.  The full project includes the 100 hydrogen non-articulated buses which are still on track to be hydrogen.

I cannot find any announcement about this - although I'm not surprised!  Regrettably there are still fundamentals that we don't know.  Is there an even just aspirational timescale for Sprint to actually start?

[ellspurs]

The "aspirational timescale" is 2192 at the rate they're going.

People in Walsall are complaining about the phase 2 of bus improvement measures.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/anger-over-sprint-bus-scheme-27871300

[Mayfield]

Sound like a good decision to swop hydrogen to electric, just need the the other 100 decision going the same way and the get shot of the 20 already in service and reliability 
of buses fit for service will go up.

[Celestial Toymaker]

Sound like a good decision to swop hydrogen to electric, just need the the other 100 decision going the same way and the get shot of the 20 already in service and reliability
of buses fit for service will go up.

hopefully if The Hydrogens are still leased from BCC then likely they will be sold to raise money, in theory a better idea than the Electrics as i think they do more mileage, but lack of availability & restrictions over where they can & cannot operate
The Technology is too advanced too soon, Bio buses seemed a good idea, but also seems to have quietly died a death ??

[Tony]

hopefully if The Hydrogens are still leased from BCC then likely they will be sold to raise money, in theory a better idea than the Electrics as i think they do more mileage, but lack of availability & restrictions over where they can & cannot operate
The Technology is too advanced too soon, Bio buses seemed a good idea, but also seems to have quietly died a death ??

Bio buses are not zero emissions

[PB50]

Currently hard to spot a hydrogen this morning. Seems to be getting less and less again. 

[Steve3229vp]

Can we all just agree that a lack of Hydrogens out on service is no longer noteworthy, we all know there are problems, most of them well documented and largely out of NX's hands.

[Tony]

Can we all just agree that a lack of Hydrogens out on service is no longer noteworthy, we all know there are problems, most of them well documented and largely out of NX's hands.

Yes, ITM are trying to fix the compressors as we speak, so don't want any fuelling done today

[Kevin_Brum12]

hopefully if The Hydrogens are still leased from BCC then likely they will be sold to raise money, in theory a better idea than the Electrics as i think they do more mileage, but lack of availability & restrictions over where they can & cannot operate
The Technology is too advanced too soon, Bio buses seemed a good idea, but also seems to have quietly died a death ??

If Birmingham City Council sold them the only buyers would be the ones with the kit to fuel them.  London is out as they aren't London spec so the only buyer would be NXWM methinks. 

[Solo1]

Will Walsall get it own refueling station for the hydrogens instead of driving down to tysley to fuel up

[EK40]

Will Walsall get it own refueling station for the hydrogens instead of driving down to tysley to fuel up

Thats been the plan all along 

[Mayfield]

I think it's one of Baldrick's cunning plans.

[karl724223]

Thats been the plan all along

Doubt it now they built new houses around the place 

[don]

Doubt it now they built new houses around the place

Don't speak too soon - I can think of one garage that runs services into Birmingham and has tons of open space - and no residential near it!!