New cross-city bus services

[fleetline6477]

How did it do that in 90 mins?

I don't think the Birmingham to Airport section stopped at so many stops, for example and generally running times on most route were less than they are now.

[cris 99]

Does anyone remember the 951 when it first started wasnt it Bearwood to Bloxwich or Cannock?

[Steve3229vp]

Does anyone remember the 951 when it first started wasnt it Bearwood to Bloxwich or Cannock?

Started at deregulation (26-10-86) Bearwood-Birmingham-Walsall-Bloxwich, then in 1987 the 951 was extended to Cannock via Great Wyrley with 952 via Cheslyn Hay, the Bearwood section was withdrawn except some peak journeys that ran to/from Five Ways and these eventually faded away

[fleetline6477]

Does anyone remember the 951 when it first started wasnt it Bearwood to Bloxwich or Cannock?

Yes, remember riding from Bearwood to Bloxwich several times with grandparents.

[monkeyjoe]

So this cross city service I see the council are plugging is that likely to happen this year and will they change the numbers of the routes does anyone know or just make people aware it's cross city and change from a 87 to a 50 once in town ?

[2206]

So this cross city service I see the council are plugging is that likely to happen this year and will they change the numbers of the routes does anyone know or just make people aware it's cross city and change from a 87 to a 50 once in town ?

Same route number for both sections would make sense and be simpler I would have thought. Wouldn't really make sense having the number change from 87 to 50 in town as that's interworking and not really cross - city, so doesn't advertise the fact you can travel through aswell.

[Stu]

So this cross city service I see the council are plugging is that likely to happen this year and will they change the numbers of the routes does anyone know or just make people aware it's cross city and change from a 87 to a 50 once in town ?

Split and merged into existing cross-city services topic.

This was supposed to happen this year, but with works ongoing to implement necessary improvements to make this work effectively, I can't see this happening until next year now, though I'm happy to be corrected.

Regarding the route numbering, as nothing appears to have been finalised yet, its all very much still in the 'speculation' phase.

Logic would dictate that to avoid confusion, some all new route numbers would work best. What they would be is anyone's guess right now.

Perhaps as a suggestion, "C1" for Dudley to Maypole/Druids Heath, and "C2" for Bearwood to Maypole/Druids Heath?

The other alternatives would be to reuse existing route numbers:
- drop the 50, and run all journeys as 82 and 87 through to Druids Heath/Maypole
- or drop the 82 and 87, and run journeys to Dudley as the 50, and journeys to Bearwood as the 50A

[2206]

Perhaps as a suggestion, "C1" for Dudley to Maypole/Druids Heath, and "C2" for Bearwood to Maypole/Druids Heath?

The other alternatives would be to reuse existing route numbers:
- drop the 50, and run all journeys as 82 and 87 through to Druids Heath/Maypole
- or drop the 82 and 87, and run journeys to Dudley as the 50, and journeys to Bearwood as the 50A

Other idea possibly 87/88 or C87 & C88.
Which would fit in with the 89 on the Dudley Road, still as well.

[monkeyjoe]

The council have been running webinars of public transport post clean air zone, nxwm were due to speak but due to technical problems running tmw

[fleetline6477]

Let's hope it continues to get shelved and never happens.

[monkeyjoe]

On the webinar they were pretty confident it is

[monkeyjoe]

https://www.tfwm.org.uk/development/cross-city-bus/

Wasn't aware there was a whole city plan ?

[Stu]

https://www.tfwm.org.uk/development/cross-city-bus/

Wasn't aware there was a whole city plan ?

Have a look back through this thread, from page 7 onwards, we've already covered this.

[Ian Hardy]

Good to see that TfWM can spell:

    Package 2: Perry Common/Hamstead – Hawksley/Longbridge (North-South)
   
Hawkesley rather than Hawksley but at least the map has the correct spelling:-)

[CL]

Good to see that TfWM can spell:

    Package 2: Perry Common/Hamstead – Hawksley/Longbridge (North-South)
   
Hawkesley rather than Hawksley but at least the map has the correct spelling:-)

and yet Perry Common is missing an 'm'.. 😂