Service changes 28th April 2019

[Stu]

Just spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on guesswork?

That's not how businesses work

I agree. I would guess that NX have done a lot of research into the X51 and X3 extensions and a good business case has been made for extending them.

They wouldn't just do it 'for fun' would they!  :D

Admittedly, I might fancy an occasional trip out to Lichfield, but my opinion wouldn't really count as I am not a regular commuter along that line.

These have to work in the best interests of those regular passengers who need or rely on these services, rather than tailing to the whims of the 'occasional' traveller.

[Tony]

Just as a clue to how expensive a new service is. One bus costs £300,000, expected life is around 17 years. That's depreciation of over £17,000 a year now add fuel, drivers, maintenance, insurance and other overheads on top and just increasing a PVR by one means a six figure sum. That is a lot of passengers needed  to break even

[Nxwm]

Registration number PD0001111/431
Licence Number PD0001111
Variation number 33
Status Variation
Service number. 902, X4, X5, X3
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Birmingham
Finish point Lichfield/Minworth/Roughley
Via Erdington, Sutton Coldfield
Date received 20 Mar 2019
Effective date 28 Apr 2019
End date
Supported by subsidies? No

I heard the x4 was going to be terminating at falcon lodge obviously not by the looks of it then

[metrocity]

Just as a clue to how expensive a new service is. One bus costs £300,000, expected life is around 17 years. That's depreciation of over £17,000 a year now add fuel, drivers, maintenance, insurance and other overheads on top and just increasing a PVR by one means a six figure sum. That is a lot of passengers needed  to break even

17 years on today's build quality is very ambitious !

[Tony]

17 years on today's build quality is very ambitious !

What makes you think that?
17 years is easily achievable on Alexander Dennis products as proved by the fact that is the age most tridents have run to

[metrocity]

What makes you think that?
17 years is easily achievable on Alexander Dennis products as proved by the fact that is the age most tridents have run to

Time will tell !

[Ian Hardy]

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2019/03/20/new-bus-service-will-link-cannock-to-birmingham/

I am glad to see that the Express and Star have used a photo of a brand new bus to advertise their story: 4061 V61VOA on a 61  :)

[BK63 YWP]

What makes you think that?
17 years is easily achievable on Alexander Dennis products as proved by the fact that is the age most tridents have run to

4125 reaching 19 years still going strong 💪

[Trident 4609]

The 122 (Oldbury to Bearwood via Langley Green) appears to be renumbered to 22 upon NXWM taking over running of the service from 22nd April.

[2206]

4125 reaching 19 years still going strong 💪

18 years.
Also some of the 41XX at BC are still going.

[Solo1]

The 122 (Oldbury to Bearwood via Langley Green) appears to be renumbered to 22 upon NXWM taking over running of the service from 22nd April.

makes sense to renumber it

[monkeyjoe]

You only have to look at the main ex lea hall routes to see how long they last.

[mikestone]

Just spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on guesswork?

That's not how businesses work

HS2 excepted obviously.

[Bob]

Is the route the X51 takes between Cannock and Bloxwich changing? Or will it still serve cheslyn hay/landywood etc

[CL]

Is the route the X51 takes between Cannock and Bloxwich changing? Or will it still serve cheslyn hay/landywood etc

https://flic.kr/p/2fccvdC