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Started by Jack D, February 24, 2018, 09:25:19 AM

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Jack

Quote from: Busboy105 on December 07, 2019, 10:23:07 PM
How come the 4/H/M has announcements but routes that have Scanias as their main allocation such as the 17 and the 28 doesn't?
Also does the new 2/2A have the announcements carried over from the old 222?
I don't know... I've always thought the 28 should have announcements like the 4.
No, because they didn't bother re-making them since they split it into two routes.

2206

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Quote from: Jack on December 07, 2019, 10:29:58 PM
I don't know... I've always thought the 28 should have announcements like the 4.
The 61/63 hasn't got announcements either, even though the B5LH had announcements for the 22/23.
I agree and the 61XX E400 MMC on the 11 should as well, I don't see why it should just be reserved for platinum buses.
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Lukeee

Quote from: 2206 on December 07, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
The 61/63 hasn't got announcements either, even though the B5LH had announcements for the 22/23.
I agree and the 61XX E400 MMC on the 11 should as well, I don't see why it should just be reserved for platinum buses.

The 11 would be a good candidate for next stop announcements as it connects pretty much everywhere

MasterPlan

Quote from: 2206 on December 07, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
The 61/63 hasn't got announcements either, even though the B5LH had announcements for the 22/23.
I agree and the 61XX E400 MMC on the 11 should as well, I don't see why it should just be reserved for platinum buses.

This was pointed out before but someone said it's a platinum feature. But the 4/4H/4M and 1 aren't platinum so that point is redundant.

Also I agree on the 11 as it's such a key route.
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Bus Man K2

I agree with the 11 having announcements. What about the 8 as that's equally important.

Busboy105

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 08, 2019, 11:16:47 AM
I agree with the 11 having announcements. What about the 8 as that's equally important.
What about all the high frequency routes having next stop announcements? Considering that most of them are Platinum, that shouldn't take long.

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Quote from: Busboy105 on December 08, 2019, 01:03:27 PM
What about all the high frequency routes having next stop announcements? Considering that most of them are Platinum, that shouldn't take long.
I agree, that would be good to have all high frequency routes having next stop announcements.
There are still loads of non platinum high frequency routes - 11A/11C, 28, 4/4A, WB 5, 55/94, 61/63, 45/47, 17, 65, 67, 74, 97, 17, 14, 72,  etc. And none of these have announcements.
So probably will be awhile yet, before all the high frequency routes have them.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Bus Man K2

Quote from: 2206 on December 08, 2019, 01:11:07 PM
I agree, that would be good to have all high frequency routes having next stop announcements.
There are still loads of non platinum high frequency routes - 11A/11C, 28, 4/4A, 4/4H/4M, 5, 55, 94, 61/63, 45/47, 17, 65, 67, 74, 97, 17, 14, 72,  etc. So probably will be awhile yet.

The 4/4H/4M have already got announcements. I grant you not all of the buses on those services do have announcements but the overall services has got them.

Bus Man K2

I think NX focus on the Platinum services for announcements and not any normal service like 11A/C. I do understand that all high frequency routes should have announcements.

l.murphy123

I prefer that voice to the new Mrs Platinum. The Bilston 34, 37, 39 could have them they use consistent buses.
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Busboy105

Quote from: 2206 on December 08, 2019, 01:11:07 PM
I agree, that would be good to have all high frequency routes having next stop announcements.
There are still loads of non platinum high frequency routes - 11A/11C, 28, 4/4A, WB 5, 55/94, 61/63, 45/47, 17, 65, 67, 74, 97, 17, 14, 72,  etc. And none of these have announcements.
So probably will be awhile yet, before all the high frequency routes have them.
You put 17 twice. Do you mean the WN17?

Stu

The 'audio/visual' next-stop announcements don't just happen by magic.

First of all the bus needs the appropriate equipment installed and fitted.

Then audio recordings need to be made, and loaded into the onboard system.

Yes, some of the Omnilinks at Walsall for the 4/4H/4M have the equipment installed, and of course all new Platinum vehicles have this installed as standard.

While it might be nice for a route like the Outer Circle 11A/C to have onboard announcements, those vehicles do not have the necessary equipment installed for this to be possible, and same applies for other vehicles in the fleet.

As there would be a huge cost involved in doing so, I find it unlikely that National Express would consider retrofitting the onboard audio/visual display equipment in all its older vehicles lacking this equipment.
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Busboy105

Quote from: Stu on December 08, 2019, 06:47:04 PM
The 'audio/visual' next-stop announcements don't just happen by magic.

First of all the bus needs the appropriate equipment installed and fitted.

Then audio recordings need to be made, and loaded into the onboard system.

Yes, some of the Omnilinks at Walsall for the 4/4H/4M have the equipment installed, and of course all new Platinum vehicles have this installed as standard.

While it might be nice for a route like the Outer Circle 11A/C to have onboard announcements, those vehicles do not have the necessary equipment installed for this to be possible, and same applies for other vehicles in the fleet.

As there would be a huge cost involved in doing so, I find it unlikely that National Express would consider retrofitting the onboard audio/visual display equipment in all its older vehicles lacking this equipment.
I'm sure people know that. It was just a suggestion.

Westy

Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 08, 2019, 04:12:07 PM
I prefer that voice to the new Mrs Platinum. The Bilston 34, 37, 39 could have them they use consistent buses.

Are you referring to the types used on the route, as they use Scanias & E200's mainly, with the odd B7LRE(which is the board that doesn't keep interworking between the routes, from what Tony told me, when I asked!), so there'd be a few types to fit the equipment.

Jack

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 08, 2019, 01:22:54 PM
The 4/4H/4M have already got announcements. I grant you not all of the buses on those services do have announcements but the overall services has got them.
If you read what I put (clearly didn't), the 4H announcements are outdated, they only work up to Halesowen, also the majority of the Omnilinks that supposed to have them haven't work for ages, 1862's haven't worked since 2016.

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