West Bromwich Garage

[karl724223]

The 50 and 9 have always been the 2 key routes having brand new buses on. The 4800's which were brand new at the time went straight onto the 50 and 9. And now they Also have the most modern vehicles on. Says a lot about how important nx deem these. Arguably the 9 has seen a decrease in frequency and a reduction in passenger numbers in recent times.

are you counting the passengers as well now

[Jack]

The 50 and 9 have always been the 2 key routes having brand new buses on. The 4800's which were brand new at the time went straight onto the 50 and 9. And now they Also have the most modern vehicles on. Says a lot about how important nx deem these. Arguably the 9 has seen a decrease in frequency and a reduction in passenger numbers in recent times.

Yet Diamomd pulled from the 9, you'd think those passengers would get the NX 9, but looks like they've picked their alternative route...

[Trident 4194]

are you counting the passengers as well now

Oh come on Karl even you have got to have seen a decline in passenger numbers on the 9. I doubt you are even allowed to drive the 9. Probably stick you on the 28 on purpose so that you don't meet many of the public. . I travelled on the 9 for many years now, and it is often very quiet nowadays even on a 10 min frequency. The x8 and x10 could be responsible for this ofc

[Tony]

The 50 and 9 have always been the 2 key routes having brand new buses on. The 4800's which were brand new at the time went straight onto the 50 and 9. And now they Also have the most modern vehicles on. Says a lot about how important nx deem these. Arguably the 9 has seen a decrease in frequency and a reduction in passenger numbers in recent times.

The 50 has never had 48xx

[MasterPlan]

The 50 has never had 48xx

It was the 47**s that's currently being debranded from the 82/87 wasn't it?

[Trident 4194]

The 50 has never had 48xx

Yeah my bad even so they were the most recent of the time were they not?

[Ashley 60171]

The 50 has never had 48xx

Only 4799 if that counts.

[2206]

I know 'money doesn't grow on tree's' but what's annoying is the same routes that constantly keep getting upgrades yet other routes have to deal with the slack. Yes the 11 has been upgraded, which it did need, but did the 50 actually need an upgrade? You could of sent the current batch of Platinums to AG for the 11 and leave the 50 with its fairly new E400MMC's.
These E400's going to WN, would be nice to see them used on the 79, Crimson them and brand them would be nice.

I completly agree. The passengers on the 9 aren't paying anymore than anyone on any other route, I don't see why it deserves upgrading anymore than any other main routes. They shouldn't get another upgrade for a few more years now in my opinion. Though thats probably unlikely to happen, it seems to always be the same route that are consistently upgraded.
97 and 94 seem very busy, though i've no idea on any passenger numbers. Presumably the 9 and 50 are more profitable though.

[Tony]

I completly agree. The passengers on the 9 aren't paying anymore than anyone on any other route, I don't see why it deserves upgrading anymore than any other main routes. They shouldn't get another upgrade for a few more years now in my opinion. Though thats probably unlikely to happen, it seems to always be the same route that are consistently upgraded.
97 and 94 seem very bus, though i've no idea on any passenger numbers. Presumably the 9 and 50 are more profitable though.

How many more times do I  have to explain.  Routes aren't  due upgrades. When new buses are due management do calculations on a lot of factors to work out where to put them based on where they are likely to attract  an increase in business

[Trident 4194]

How many more times do I  have to explain.  Routes aren't  due upgrades. When new buses are due management do calculations on a lot of factors to work out where to put them based on where they are likely to attract  an increase in business

When calculating payback time and costs was it 18 years useful life you said for these new vehicles? Presumably that leaves a residual value of 0 at the end?

[Tony]

When calculating payback time and costs was it 18 years useful life you said for these new vehicles? Presumably that leaves a residual value of 0 at the end?

That's depreciation. It will be the same overall whatever the bus is used on. My comments are about the  'New bus effect '  and where using them  will get the most extra revenue

[Trident 4194]

That's depreciation. It will be the same overall whatever the bus is used on. My comments are about the  'New bus effect '  and where using them  will get the most extra revenue

How do you measure that though? Car ownership in areas near bus routes??

[Sh4318]

No it isn't, there's corridors using older buses than the current Dudley Road buses, 97 at every 4 mins using 16 year old Tridents. The 79 competing against the metro, tell me when that last had an upgrade? Oh yes the buses that currently operate it was the last time they decided to upgrade it. But unless you live on NX's 'favourite' routes they aren't interested...
It's a shame the X21 won't be getting any Platinums, not like the 69** are even used on the X70 anyway...

Yes, it is. Would you like to point out where I mentioned the Washwood Heath corridor? I was talking about the Dudley Road corridor

[4679]

@Tony any idea what's up with 4527 has been sat in same Place for last 2-3 Weeks and looks as if its not being worked on.

[Tony]

West Bromwich got 4679 Inspected and internally special cleaned last night and have it out on the 5 all day today