Dudley Network Review

[Dom]

Is the 82 changing numbers?

No. Not as far as I'm aware. The timetable for the 82 and is pretty much the same.

[V89MOA]

Oh look all ready to go

Wouldn't be the first time 4760 has worked a number 12 service either!

[MasterPlan]

Oh look all ready to go

Why have they not had their displays tampered with?

[PinkBus]

The 120 has been the 120 since 1928, although in those days the Oldbury - Dudley section was basically via the current 87 route.  Rounds Green was served from 1929, and Oakham from 1953.

The 140 has been the 140 also since 1928.  It ran Birmingham - Dudley - Gornal Wood until 1939.  The Gornal Wood section then became the D40 and lasted with that number into WMPTE days.

I haven't got details of the 128/129 to hand, but I think they originally started in the Warley revisions of 1980.

The 128/9 began September 1980 replacing the 229/233 routes that ran previously.

I know this because they were my buses to school from Bearwood,  I lived round the corner from the route and they changed to the 128/9 as I began my 4th year at secondary school. The 220/1 became the 448 and 450 at the same time.

[2900]

Why have they not had their displays tampered with?

Which displays are you referring to? The destination blinds  or are you on about the generic branding

[MasterPlan]

Which displays are you referring to? The destination blinds  or are you on about the generic branding

The destination blinds. They've not been changed to the static ones now used by BC, AG and YW.

[BK63 YWP]

Timetables for most of the renumbered services on the NWM website

The 5 (205) is not on the site
The 126 says it is ran by WN
The 13B is not on the site

[karl724223]

what I have found:
2/2A - Dudley to Merry Hill (222)

3 - West Bromwich to Merry Hill (289)
3A - West Bromwich to Blackheath

6 - Dudley to Stourbridge (246)

7 - Dudley to Wollaston (276)

8 - Wrens Nest to Wollaston Farm (X96)

11/11A - Dudley to Walsall (11/13)

12/12A - Birmingham to Dudley (120/120A/121)

13 - Birmingham to Oldbury (128)
13A - Birmingham to Blackheath (127)

14 - Dudley to Halesowen (241)

15/15A - Wolverhampton to Merry Hill (255/255A)

16/16S - Wolverhampton to Stourbridge (256/256S)

17 - Dudley to Stourbridge (257)

18 - Dudley to Merry Hill (243)

19 - Dudley to QE Hospital (244)

31/32 - Walsall to Mossley/Lower Farm (301/302)

126 - Birmingham to Dudley

X7 - Birmingham to Wolverhampton
(Mon-Sat it runs until just before 7pm from Birmingham)

X8 - Birmingham to Wolverhampton (140)


SIDE NOTES:
*42/43 and 43A changes on the 19th and 20th of August
*205 didn't have a bus number change but will run between Dudley and Kingswinford.
Wall Heath gets one in the morning and one in the afternoon.

i could have told you all that 😂

[Sh4318]

Although I was initially excited by the changes taking place, I've been completely underwhelmed by the timetables.

The 126 being every 15 minutes just seems strange to me, although it'll be worth it if the service is reliable.

The X7 and X8 timetables are really disappointing. No Sunday service for the X7 is something I didn't see coming. The X8 Sunday service doesn't make any sense to me, only 1 bus an hour does the full route, 1 bus an hour is between Wolverhampton and Quinton, and the other is Wolverhampton to Dudley (could have been a good opportunity to provide more buses between Birmingham & Quinton on Sundays, with the 9 & X10).

I can't see how the 13B fits in with the 13/A, which run at an every 10 minute frequency.

Surprised an evening and Sunday service wasn't trialled on the 12A, the 12(120) frequency between Birmingham and Oldbury is back to every half an hour on Sundays.

That's my 2 cents anyway, was initially really excited, now, overwhelmingly underwhelmed

[OH25]

Could the 126 can't be changed to 86, then you have the 86/87 from Dudley to Birmingham.

Or change it to 88 (same reason as above) plus with the new X7 and X8 it would look neat having the 87/88/X7/X8.

[Kevin]

Could the 126 can't be changed to 86, then you have the 86/87 from Dudley to Birmingham.

Or change it to 88 (same reason as above) plus with the new X7 and X8 it would look neat having the 87/88/X7/X8.

I think they've really shot themselves in the foot here, all the reasonable options for a renumbering to fit in with the services around are taken
That said the 255/256/257 suddenly becoming 15/16/17 already makes two 17s in fairly close proximity so I don't really see why 15 couldn't work for the 126

[BK63 YWP]

I think they've really shot themselves in the foot here, all the reasonable options for a renumbering to fit in with the services around are taken
That said the 255/256/257 suddenly becoming 15/16/17 already makes two 17s in fairly close proximity so I don't really see why 15 couldn't work for the 126

Could also say the WA 4/6/10 are close to the WN 4/5/10 but realistically they have never caused confusion... the diamond 17 runs once an hour in the opposite direction to nx 17.

The re numbering is happen whether we like it or not.

@OH25 the X7 is ok the way it's going to be evenings and Sunday are unnecessary as it's covered by the X8 between wolves and Dudley and the 87 Dudley to Birmingham, it's roughly going to the same frequency going to Birmingham from Dudley just the X8 (140 is hourly during the evening) and the wolves bit does go down to every 30 mins after 7ish as the 126 does now

[Kevin]

Could also say the WA 4/6/10 are close to the WN 4/5/10 but realistically they have never caused confusion... the diamond 17 runs once an hour in the opposite direction to nx 17.

The re numbering is happen whether we like it or not.

I know they go the opposite way, but so would the Merry Hill 15 and the 126, so by the same logic of duplicate 17s I don't see any reason the 126 couldn't become 15 as well

[BK63 YWP]

I know they go the opposite way, but so would the Merry Hill 15 and the 126, so by the same logic of duplicate 17s I don't see any reason the 126 couldn't become 15 as well

Could of been a request of TfWM to keep it as the 126

[Eric Shaw]

I don't usually have any strong opinions on route number changes, but I think not renumbering the 126 is a mistake, the new 126 is so much different. It is no longer going to Wolverhampton and will not be the quickest route to Dudley. I think this will cause a lot of confusion to the general public.