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South Birmingham Consultation 2017

Started by Stu, July 25, 2017, 08:16:57 PM

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Sh4318

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How long are these diversions on the X20/X22 in place anyway? If they are diversions, these routes confuse me a little


Quote from: V89MOA on September 07, 2018, 02:24:25 PM
I never said that you did....I have simply given you a very valid reason as to why somebody would choose the bus over the train to make this commute.... The fact that you are having difficulty understanding my point that people like to have flexibility for any occasion and don't like to pay for travel twice is not my problem.

But I'm treating the commute as an isolated journey, whereas you are not.

I'm autistic, so I've probably made/interpreted some of the points incorrectly, as I occasionally do, but again, a return is £2.70 vs £4.50 daysaver, between Birmingham City Centre & University, that's the same amount of flexibility - unless you want to go around the houses before getting there
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

V89MOA

I am treating it as such, but my point about flexibility is what about the days off, weekends or just spare few hours later on when they want the freedom to jump on a bus to see mates, an evening drink or just to go shopping. The exact reason why travelcards are a popular option, cheap flexibility and no need to worry about getting anywhere in brum under whatever circumstances. If you have a more convenient bus travelcard for the month, then you'd be mad to pay again for the train on commuting days. The only time the train is more appealing is the sole one off journey between the two stations but as Kevin has said that is pretty rare as most people have to get on another bus again as they'll be coming through from somewhere else.

Sh4318

Quote from: V89MOA on September 07, 2018, 02:44:52 PM
I am treating it as such, but my point about flexibility is what about the days off, weekends or just spare few hours later on when they want the freedom to jump on a bus to see mates, an evening drink or just to go shopping. The exact reason why travelcards are a popular option, cheap flexibility and no need to worry about getting anywhere in brum under whatever circumstances. If you have a more convenient bus travelcard for the month, then you'd be mad to pay again for the train on commuting days. The only time the train is more appealing is the sole one off journey between the two stations but as Kevin has said that is pretty rare as most people have to get on another bus again as they'll be coming through from somewhere else.

You're more than welcome to view it as you want, but it's irrelevant to my initial point - which admittedly, I should have made more clear
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

V89MOA

Quote from: Sh4318 on September 07, 2018, 02:52:41 PM
You're more than welcome to view it as you want, but it's irrelevant to my initial point - which admittedly, I should have made more clear
So to say people who have already paid once for bus passes would be foolish to pay twice is irrelevant to... "Personally, I can't see why anyone would use anything other than the train to commute from City Centre to Uni"

If you say so!

Sh4318

Quote from: V89MOA on September 07, 2018, 02:54:27 PM
So to say people who have already paid once for bus passes would be foolish to pay twice is irrelevant to... "Personally, I can't see why anyone would use anything other than the train to commute from City Centre to Uni"

If you say so!

The point wasn't aimed at people with bus passes, more the general public
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

V89MOA

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Quote from: Sh4318 on September 07, 2018, 02:59:00 PM
The point wasn't aimed at people with bus passes, more the general public
You said "anyone" so...

Regardless... The fact that as a result of the review extra buses have been put on between the Uni and Brum would suggest demand is there.

Sh4318

Quote from: V89MOA on September 07, 2018, 02:59:38 PM
You said "anyone" so...

Regardless... The fact that as a result of the review extra buses have been put on between the Uni and Brum would suggest demand is there.

Anyone as in the general public, not exclusively people with bus passes.

Obviously the demand is there, the majority of this consultation was centered around the QE/University from a personal point of view, it would always be the train for me, from Birmingham, and as the rush hour trains you referred to earlier suggest, I'm not the only one

I wonder how long journey times are from the City Centre to Uni now these diversions have been put in place
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

V89MOA

Quote from: Sh4318 on September 07, 2018, 03:08:39 PM
Anyone as in the general public, not exclusively people with bus passes.
You're boring me now.

Sh4318

Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

CL

Do NX still offer the University/QE £1 "city hop" fares? The one that's exclusive to students and NHS employees?
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MasterPlan

Quote from: CL on September 07, 2018, 05:36:05 PM
Do NX still offer the University/QE £1 "city hop" fares? The one that's exclusive to students and NHS employees?

I asked this a while back on here and on Facebook but got no answer. They're not advertised on the buses anymore but some stops I've seen still show it.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

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MasterPlan

Quote from: Adam 404 on September 07, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
Yes @CL
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/useful-information/university-hop

Ah that's good then! I take it that it must've been successful since it's introduction. Strange that the ads have been taken off of the buses though.

This made me laugh however "Our Platinum X20, X21 and X22 services offer premium comfort, with comfier seats, extra legroom, WiFi and USB charging points"
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Sh4318

Quote from: CL on September 07, 2018, 05:36:05 PM
Do NX still offer the University/QE £1 "city hop" fares? The one that's exclusive to students and NHS employees?

Out of interest, was this introduced along with the X20/X21/X22 or before those routes were introduced?
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

2206

#854
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 07, 2018, 06:19:39 PM
Out of interest, was this introduced along with the X20/X21/X22 or before those routes were introduced?
It was lauched before the introduction of the X20/X21/X22.
It was introduced ages ago, at the time the 98/X64 were still operating - the B7RLE used to have University Hop vinyls.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

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