East Birmingham Sevice Changes - 4th June 2017

[Brummie45]

X12 timetable with list of stops at the end for anyone not sure of exact route.

https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables/Download/cen_33X12_A_H_y11/2/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_X12/True

[B.C Driver]

Havnt seen many comments about the X70.

Have heard it will use the Expressway and then along Tyburn Rd or bypass by Washwood Heath.
Anyone know any better than me? And if it does use the expressway will it stop along the Tyburn Rd? If it did it would provide passengers along there with a quicker alternative to the 67.

[Brummie45]

X70 will run non-stop to Bromford. Timetable below with list of stops at end of timetable.

https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables/Download/cen_33X70_B_H_y11/2/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_X70/True

[B.C Driver]

X70 will run non-stop to Bromford. Timetable below with list of stops at end of timetable.

https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables/Download/cen_33X70_B_H_y11/2/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_X70/True

Every HOUR and City to Bromford in 11 mins!  ::)

[dingding]

They must have moved Bromford Bridge then!

[Eric Shaw]

Referring to MW's post about AG allocations, does this mean the 71 is leaving AG on 4th June. I thought PB was short of room.

[Tony]

X70 will run non-stop to Bromford. Timetable below with list of stops at end of timetable.

https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables/Download/cen_33X70_B_H_y11/2/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_X70/True

It's also running right through to Chelmsley Wood on Sundays. I cannot remember the last time there was a service from Coleshill to Chelmsley Wood on a Sunday.

[Brummie45]

11 minutes is possible off peak times but definitely not in rush hour. You would need a good clear run though.

[Steve3229vp]

Why is it that the X12 is given 12 minutes to get from City to Bromford Drive (up to 20 minutes in peaks) and the X70 is given 11 minutes even in peaks?, this makes no sense and the X70 will have more timing issues than the X12 !

[Brummie45]

I've been told by a driver at PB that 66, 71 and 96 are going on same rota. Maybe Tony knows more.

[Steveminor]

It's also running right through to Chelmsley Wood on Sundays. I cannot remember the last time there was a service from Coleshill to Chelmsley Wood on a Sunday.

Probably for good reason 
Seriously nx will have trouble making that commercially viable. The budget would have better been spent keeping tge daytine frequency at every 30 mins.

[Brummie45]

The problem will be if they have to turn a X70 for any reason. It could technically leave a two hour gap. So I should think turning will be almost impossible.

Back in the day when the 590 ran 94,96 or 97 were pinched to keep service going. I was on 96 one day and was pulled to do a 590.

[monkeyjoe]

X70 last ditched attempt to get some margin into that corridor is the impression I'm getting

[Jack D]

Im pretty sure X12 and X70 will use the Expressway from 3pm onwards as the Heathlands parkway is a nightmare after 3pm will take about an hour to get through the traffic.

[Stu]

Im pretty sure X12 and X70 will use the Expressway from 3pm onwards as the Heathlands parkway is a nightmare after 3pm will take about an hour to get through the traffic.

So they'll both have the same problems that the X1 and X2 face at peak times. In fact, I wonder if thats the reason for the X2 having a frequency reduction; same amount of buses being used but an increase in running time to compensate for the delays on Small Heath Highway.

As for the Coventry Road and the 60, with the withdrawal of the 59, and the revised 58 moving to Acocks Green, I am wondering now what will happen with the surplus Eclipse 2s at BC; I am hoping that the 60 won't be converted to single deck operation, even with the higher frequency. Certainly out of city at peaks, if a double-deck 60 goes missing, passengers are already piling onto and cramming the 58/59 if they arrive first, which has made for some uncomfortable journeys home that I have encountered.