Arriva September 2015 changes

[Westy]

Was Midland Red ever this bad?

Too young to remember!

[Bob]

Me too but i remember Midlabd Red North, Cannock had east lancs rebodied Tigers  Duple bus bodied Tigers, & various coach examples, along with lots of Nationals, some ECW  Olympians, and various others. Then it got swamped with Darts....lol

[Bob]

my predictions about the X25 & 530 were true. Why do Arriva have such poor success with commercial route launches? It'll be interesting to see how the 19/20/21/61/71 last. Particularly the 71 given Wednesfields pretty abyysmal track record on running anything commercial....

[Trident 4609]

my predictions about the X25 & 530 were true. Why do Arriva have such poor success with commercial route launches? It'll be interesting to see how the 19/20/21/61/71 last. Particularly the 71 given Wednesfields pretty abyysmal track record on running anything commercial....

Except the 71 is subsidised.....

[Cheese]

Except the 71 is subsidised.....

As are the 19/20/21 I believe, and the 826/828 are replacements for the X25...

[Bob]

So replacing a fast link that could have been a success if promoted properly with a couple if slow ones.

The X25 was doomed. Start off with branded up buses, then let it deteriorate and degenerate into 11 y.o. Darts half the time.....Well done

[Bob]

Good job the 71 is subsidised then eh, imagine its future under Wednesfield operation if it was commercial . .

[Westy]

Good job the 71 is subsidised then eh, imagine its future under Wednesfield operation if it was commercial . .

Imagine Wednesfield's future full stop!

[BN]

Imagine Wednesfield's future full stop!

Yes, they have one.

[Bob]

What as? A site for housing? lol

[Westy]

Yes, they have one.

At the risk of sounding like Bob, I'd be very surprised if Wednesfield was still in operation in 5 years time.

[Bob]

@BN why have almost all of Wednesfields commercial routes failed so miserably?

[Bob]

Also @BN do you think the reduction in service on Sapphire route 1 will do much for it? Or be popular with passengers? And do you think given the above the Sapphire upgrade has been a failure?

[Westy]

I just cant see whats gone wrong with the Wednesfield operation.

Arriva is a fairly well known name across the Uk.

Some of the management staff were ex NX, I believe, so you'd think they would have a fair idea what worked & what didnt, but to withdraw a route after being beaten by the likes of Banga! :0

How was Choice doing before it became Midland & absorbed the A2Z operation?

They seemed ok on the old 171 as far as I know, dunno about the rest of the operation.

Perhaps people have a perception of Arriva as that company from Cannock?

[Bob]

I wouldnt have said Choice were doing great, their fleet was embarrassing!