New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[MasterPlan]

It's actually time the 907, 952 and X21 had an upgrade.

Probably more chance of the ☓21 being withdrawn than upgraded.

[2206]

Probably more chance of the ☓21 being withdrawn than upgraded.

What makes you think that? X21's are always busy and carry full loads when I see them, paticularly at peak times.
I can't see NX pulling from busy journeys.

It'll be interesting to see where they go.
Would be nice if one of the main Chelmsley - City Centre routes, 94 or 97 in East B'ham, was to get an upgrade and get Platinum buses.
4/A and 6 on the Stratford Rd and they would probably benefit from double decks as well, or the 72 maybe?

I think there's a chance they could send some to PE and put them on the 529, and more to YW for the 35 perhaps?

WN 529? That route already has Platinum double decks. The average passenger probably won't be able to tell the difference between these and the 2016 batch. The 2016 batch are still in a decent condition.

[monkeyjoe]

Agreed about time some of the ex lea hall corridors got a look in.

[danny]

Probs a silly question but the platinums MMC again???

[Jack]

 
WN 529? That route already has Platinum double decks. The average passenger probably won't be able to tell the difference between these and the 2016 batch. The 2016 batch are still in a decent condition.

Oops that should of said PE for the 126!

[CL]

Probs a silly question but the platinums MMC again???

It was confirmed last time that subsequent deliveries will be Platinum spec

[danny]

I ment bus type...

[Westy]

Also depends on whether we've reached the point when these will replace the original Platinums (to be repainted into Crimson / Blue / Green) or if they are in addition

Will it ever get to that point where Platties are downgraded to normal service buses, upon reaching a certain age?

[Tony]

Will it ever get to that point where Platties are downgraded to normal service buses, upon reaching a certain age?

The point is Platinums ARE normal service buses. Why would you remove features people are starting to expect.

[Steve3229vp]

Probably more chance of the ☓21 being withdrawn than upgraded.

So what would you replace the X21 with then, please don't say bring back the 29 !

[MasterPlan]

So what would you replace the X21 with then, please don't say bring back the 29 !

What?

[Steve3229vp]

What?

Your Status: Probably more chance of the ☓21 being withdrawn than upgraded.
My Status: So what would you replace the X21 with then, please don't say bring back the 29 !

[Stu]

While I would agree with any comment that the Platinum brand is being 'diluted' or 'devalued' with the introduction of ever more Platinum-spec buses and route upgrades, if this is to be the new 'standard spec' moving forwards, then it can only be a good thing.

If we can only play guessing games for now, I might hazard a guess and speculate that either the 74 or 82/87 at WB might get the Platinum treatment as its been a few years since their last upgrade. The 94 or 97 could be a good call too.

I think it is probably more likely that these new Platinum vehicles could be used to 'upgrade' existing Platinum routes at PB or WA, to see current Platinum vehicles cascaded elsewhere, much in the same way that the X1 and X2 original vehicles were used to upgrade the X10 and X12.

Personally, I think its highly unlikely my regular routes 2 and 3 would ever become Platinum, but I would be happy if YW could get some decent cascades in to see off some of the elderly Tridents.

[2206]

I think it is probably more likely that these new Platinum vehicles could be used to 'upgrade' existing Platinum routes at PB or WA, to see current Platinum vehicles cascaded elsewhere, much in the same way that the X1 and X2 original vehicles were used to upgrade the X10 and X12.

Why do you think that? There's nothing wrong with the 2 year old buses on the X1/X2/X3/X4/X5/X7/X8/529?
The passengers won't be able to tell the difference between the PB batch and the new ones. To the passengers they're exactly the same as the new ones, so its not realy an upgrade. I don't think any of the passengers on the X1/X2 can tell the difference between the 2016/17/18 MMC.
The reason that occured with the orriginal X1 and X2 ones, I believe is as it was said they couldn't operate the 2015 MMC and later batches at the same garage, due to differences between them?

[monkeyjoe]

If the 74 / 87/82 wb routes got a make over before the 94/97 that would really be taking the Micheal considering they have had upgrades fairly recently. However I could end up being surprised  :o