If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

[Busboy105]

Okay, then I would bring back the 62 and make it run between Birmingham and Northfield via Bristol Road to Selly Oak then go on the current 48 route to Northfield who would curtail the 48 to Weoley Castle or Shenley Fields.
P.S What was the last bus route to run through Cattell Road? I can't remember off the top of my head. Was it the old 13 that ran between City and Lea Hall Station

[2206]

P.S What was the last bus route to run through Cattell Road? I can't remember off the top of my head. Was it the old 13 that ran between City and Lea Hall Station

13 ran via Green Lane and Yardley Green Road between 2007 - 2010. It then went through the Yew Tree. It was replaced by the 73, the 73 was later curtailed to Heartlands.
Nothing has gone down there in the last 13 years, though the 97 was diverted down there for a few months some years back on a long term diversion.

[MasterPlan]

Okay, then I would bring back the 62 and make it run between Birmingham and Northfield via Bristol Road to Selly Oak then go on the current 48 route to Northfield who would curtail the 48 to Weoley Castle or Shenley Fields

So this 62 would get to Selly Oak then divert via the most long winded route possible to get to Northfield? Nobody would use that in all honesty.
You cannot curtail the 48 to Weoley Castle/Shenley Fields as it doesn't serve those areas.

It's practically impossible for the 48 to return to Weoley Castle because of the way it's been set up now. Only way for that to happen would be that the 27 goes back to it's original route but even then if you do all that the gaps left by the 29, 84 etc would have to be filled again.

[Squiz1971]

P.S What was the last bus route to run through Cattell Road? I can't remember off the top of my head. Was it the old 13 that ran between City and Lea Hall Station

It was the 96 that went down Cattell Road to Cov Road,Brum to Pine Square before it was withdrawn @Busboy105

[Pat]

I would extend certain peak journeys on the 50 to Wythall via Hollywood.

[John]

I would extend certain peak journeys on the 50 to Wythall via Hollywood.

If they were withdrawn before due to lack of passengers, why would it work this time round?

[MasterPlan]

I would extend certain peak journeys on the 50 to Wythall via Hollywood.

Wasn't the 50A withdrawn due to low usage?

[Pat]

Wasn't the 50A withdrawn due to low usage?

If they were withdrawn before due to lack of passengers, why would it work this time round?

I had no idea that this service existed previously, hence why I suggested it.

[j789]

I had no idea that this service existed previously, hence why I suggested it.

I think the only way it could work if tried again is to have it as an all day extension. I do not think Bells lane needs a bus every 4 to 5 minutes so I would remove one 50 every 20 minutes from Bells Lane and aand make this go to Wythall. So as to avoid needing any extra vehicles, I'd send it straight down the Hollywood bypass from Maypole and then it could loop back through its former route through Wythall from Beckett's Island. I think this would prove commercially viable as there are a lot of housing there, including social housing, with a lot more planned to be built in the coming years. The train service is not great from there and the station is not that close to a lot of the village areas. Also, the current 150 only serves the main road so there wouldn't be much of an overlap with that service. I think it would be popular. Also, I think NXWM are missing a trick not having a school/college 49s service start from Wythall to go to Solihull as there are a lot of students there who go that route yet cannot get a NWM pass as they are in Worcestershire which increases the cost. Having a NXWM bus would allow them access to the term plus which I think would prove very popular in that area and open up a lot of new travellers to NXWM.

[Matt.N0056]

I think the only way it could work if tried again is to have it as an all day extension. I do not think Bells lane needs a bus every 4 to 5 minutes so I would remove one 50 every 20 minutes from Bells Lane and aand make this go to Wythall. So as to avoid needing any extra vehicles, I'd send it straight down the Hollywood bypass from Maypole and then it could loop back through its former route through Wythall from Beckett's Island. I think this would prove commercially viable as there are a lot of housing there, including social housing, with a lot more planned to be built in the coming years. The train service is not great from there and the station is not that close to a lot of the village areas. Also, the current 150 only serves the main road so there wouldn't be much of an overlap with that service. I think it would be popular. Also, I think NXWM are missing a trick not having a school/college 49s service start from Wythall to go to Solihull as there are a lot of students there who go that route yet cannot get a NWM pass as they are in Worcestershire which increases the cost. Having a NXWM bus would allow them access to the term plus which I think would prove very popular in that area and open up a lot of new travellers to NXWM.

Wythall, Hollywood etc does actually come under the Network West Midlands zone; nBus & nNetwork tickets are valid

[j789]

Wythall, Hollywood etc does actually come under the Network West Midlands zone; nBus & nNetwork tickets are valid

Argh I wasn't very clear, the main issue is 16-18 as Worcestershire addresses can't access the cheaper child tickets with the 16-18 card (as far as I'm aware) when they reach 16 unlike those living in the West Midlands. I still think a 49s service would be viable and the money on term tickets would all go to NXWM rather than NWM if NXWM would allow the college students to buy the term plus.

[Stu]

I would extend certain peak journeys on the 50 to Wythall via Hollywood.

Just out of curiosity, on what basis are you making this suggestion?

[Pat]

Just out of curiosity, on what basis are you making this suggestion?

Wythall and Hollywood only have 1 bus per hour to the city.  Hollywood seems a fairly large area and seems to be poorly connected in terms of direct buses to the city centre.

[Stu]

Wythall and Hollywood only have 1 bus per hour to the city.  Hollywood seems a fairly large area and seems to be poorly connected in terms of direct buses to the city centre.

What you state may be factually true. But if you neither live in or have any association with those areas, on what basis do you know with any certainty that your suggestion would actually be viable?

I only say this as I can establish from your signature that you are from or near Wolverhampton, which is far from both Wythall and Hollywood.

Not wanting to put a damper on anyone who wants to make suggestions, but there's a lot more involved than simply looking at a map and thinking 'that'd be a nice bus route'.

As it happens, there did used to be a 50A peak time service to Wythall and Hollywood, which was - as pointed out already - withdrawn due to 'lack of use' (first by The Green Bus, then later by NXWM). It might be the case that people from those areas prefer to drive and park at Wythall train station to commute to/from Birmingham. There could be a whole number of reasons.

There are other bus services in the area, which connect to Solihull, which are not very well used either, and require subsidies to function as they are.

But unless you either live in or use bus services in those areas, and have undertaken surveys, it is difficult to establish whether any suggestion would actually be viable or not.

[Pat]

What you state may be factually true. But if you neither live in or have any association with those areas, on what basis do you know with any certainty that your suggestion would actually be viable?

I only say this as I can establish from your signature that you are from or near Wolverhampton, which is far from both Wythall and Hollywood.

Not wanting to put a damper on anyone who wants to make suggestions, but there's a lot more involved than simply looking at a map and thinking 'that'd be a nice bus route'.

As it happens, there did used to be a 50A peak time service to Wythall and Hollywood, which was - as pointed out already - withdrawn due to 'lack of use' (first by The Green Bus, then later by NXWM). It might be the case that people from those areas prefer to drive and park at Wythall train station to commute to/from Birmingham. There could be a whole number of reasons.

There are other bus services in the area, which connect to Solihull, which are not very well used either, and require subsidies to function as they are.

But unless you either live in or use bus services in those areas, and have undertaken surveys, it is difficult to establish whether any suggestion would actually be viable or not.

Fair enough, I agree with you there.  However, the first post on this forum states that "money or patronage is no issue here as its just for fun".  That's all I'm doing here, only suggesting routes for fun, as are most people in this thread.  I think that some members have misunderstood the purpose of this thread and 'criticise' the ideas of other members and take things too seriously.  Its just for fun!