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Service change (Cock Ups / U turn)

Started by monkeyjoe, September 07, 2014, 10:00:24 PM

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monkeyjoe

Just passing the time. I am just wondering what people would consider as the biggest service change u turns / mistakes they can remember in recent history. Examples that come to mind would be:-

When TWM withdrew the 92/93 and extended the 26 to Kingshurst.
Tried to make the 49/69 routes in a circular with the 49 terminating @ Frankley.
35 becoming a circular service and encompassing the 27 route via Bournville.
More recently the 31 route in the Gospel Oak area.
56 route terminating in Olton (with residents protesting in the street to not let them pass).

Just passing the time anyone think of any others??


Stuharris 6360

Well the constant changes in the Halesowen/Old Hill/Cradley area get a bit wearing, they seem to change things when nothing is wrong with the service running in the first place. Why withdraw the 297 between Merry Hill & Halesowen and instead extend the 241 instead when the 297 was well used?
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

winston

Although a while ago now, I still think TWM withdrawing the 247/248 Dudley - Stourbridge circulars was a big mistake

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Winston on September 07, 2014, 10:14:30 PM
Although a while ago now, I still think TWM withdrawing the 247/248 Dudley - Stourbridge circulars was a big mistake

Quite right Winston, the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind.
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Sh4318

Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

monkeyjoe

With the previous 2 examples they have not u turned on them, so can they be glassed as a mistake or just personal opinions.

Sh4318

Some people would probably say the 46 extension to Aston, Six Ways
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

lynx1103

Latest change on 66/66A

Reducing city-Neachells to 20 mins

Withdrawing 66 from Sutton diverting to Kingstanding certainly
Know how to kill a route.

Withdrawing 68A/68C

Provided many useful links

Fort Shopping Park to Castle Vale Walmley Sutton
Erdington

monkeyjoe

Quote from: lynx1103 on September 07, 2014, 11:22:29 PM
Latest change on 66/66A

Reducing city-Neachells to 20 mins

Withdrawing 66 from Sutton diverting to Kingstanding certainly
Know how to kill a route.

Withdrawing 68A/68C

Provided many useful links

Fort Shopping Park to Castle Vale Walmley Sutton
Erdington


Are they ever likely to u turn on that, you reckon?

the trainbasher

When NXWM extended the 222 to halesowen, that was a big mistake for reliability. Although we did get deckers on the Sunday merry hill 222 shorts as they interworked with the 141...

Extending the 241 to merry hill...

Withdrawing the 109 and letting diamond/Ludlows climb right in...

The 637...


All opinions and onions mentioned on here are mine and not those of any employer, current, past, present or future, or presented as fact, unless I prove it otherwise.

monkeyjoe

What about examples when they have actually U turned?

the trainbasher

They u turned after a year or 2 on the 222

The replaced the 637 with the tendered 231


All opinions and onions mentioned on here are mine and not those of any employer, current, past, present or future, or presented as fact, unless I prove it otherwise.

winston

#12
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 07, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
They u turned after a year or 2 on the 222

The replaced the 637 with the tendered 231

The 222 was only extended to Halesowen to re-instate the direct link to Russells Hall Hospital which was lost when the 247/248 were withdrawn

Quote from: the trainbasher on September 07, 2014, 11:27:26 PM

Withdrawing the 109 and letting diamond/Ludlows climb right in...


Ludlows already had the Halesowen - Merry corridor sown up, I don't remember the 109 being that busy

the trainbasher

#13
Quote from: Winston on September 07, 2014, 11:40:40 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 07, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
They u turned after a year or 2 on the 222

The replaced the 637 with the tendered 231

he 222 was only extended to Halesowen to re-instate the direct link to Russells Hall Hospital which was lost when the 247/248 were withdrawn

And don't forget the 138 doing halesowen to the hospital in the evening...


All opinions and onions mentioned on here are mine and not those of any employer, current, past, present or future, or presented as fact, unless I prove it otherwise.

Sh4318

Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 07, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
With the previous 2 examples they have not u turned on them, so can they be glassed as a mistake or just personal opinions.

I would say the 138 withdrawal has been somewhat u-turned. The 141 is essentially a 138E
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

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