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Service change (Cock Ups / U turn)

Started by monkeyjoe, September 07, 2014, 10:00:24 PM

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Sh4318

The change for the 46 to serve Galton Bridge station. I wouldn't say this was necessarily a bad decision, but this decision has now somewhat been u-turned, and the 46 now runs alongside St Paul's Road/Mallin St instead of Oldbury Road. I just wish they'd make their mind up, either reroute it to serve the station, or revert it to it's original route, Holly Lane then Mallin St
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Sayeed

#16
110 (City Centre - Blackheath?) and as mentioned above 637 which was renumbered to 626 and withdrawn 6 months later
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Stu

The 30 in Solihull. It was withdrawn at the Solihull Review and incorporated into the new S3 service, to improve reliability. After a couple of months of unreliable operation, the S3 was revised to serve the original 30 route down Danford Lane. Then when the S3 was withdrawn and taken over by Diamond, as it was commercially unviable (mainly due to the reliability issues), the 30 service was restored. And then later withdrawn and taken over by Diamond, as it was commercially unviable...
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makkacdt

i was always a fan of the 236/237 back in my school days, would pick up right outside of the school gates, but that soon went,
Biggest for me, not to sure nxwm would class it a cock up but I would, and that was withdrawing the 129 a few years back,
they made the 238 go every 20 mins which was fine at the time as it was every 10 mins for that or the 128, but they then put the 238 back to every jhalf hour which annoyed us locals, and to anger us even more, took the 128 of us and extened the 89 to Blackheath. Now to get to bearwood or get in to Birmingham quicker than an hour and a half, we have to walk over for the 126 or change in oldbury. again the 128 and 129 was great for us locals. Evening wise we just get the 89 every hour, the 289 is pretty much useless since it only goes oldhill
Wouldnt mind a 10 min bus service....

sonic84

Back in 2004/5 ish, they withdrew the 44S (Birmingham - Great Park) and combined the 44T / 44 with the 46 to create the cross city link Turves Green - Pheasey.  However due to reliable issues the route was split again only a few months later with all journeys to Turves Green being renumbered to the 44.

Also during the 2009 South Birmingham Review, the 21 was rerouted out of the city to run via the Vale and Edgbaston Park Road towards the QE Hospital.  This was unpopular however and by January 2010 it had reverted back to running towards Harbone.  As we all know, by July 2010 the 21 was replaced with the X64.

monkeyjoe

Quote from: sonic84 on September 08, 2014, 06:00:11 PM
Back in 2004/5 ish, they withdrew the 44S (Birmingham - Great Park) and combined the 44T / 44 with the 46 to create the cross city link Turves Green - Pheasey.  However due to reliable issues the route was split again only a few months later with all journeys to Turves Green being renumbered to the 44.

Also during the 2009 South Birmingham Review, the 21 was rerouted out of the city to run via the Vale and Edgbaston Park Road towards the QE Hospital.  This was unpopular however and by January 2010 it had reverted back to running towards Harbone.  As we all know, by July 2010 the 21 was replaced with the X64.


Remember all the fuss about the 21, with MPs getting involved.

winston

The 297 extension to Stickley Estate was withdrawn, re-instated due to public pressure and has now been withdrawn again

andy

The 68 fiasco is without doubt the best example. And there was a u turn if you piece together the buggering about they did with the 638 (38), 966, 66 (111), 71A and finally the 71 itself to try and cover their tracks. The result being that 4 corridors were tampered with and made less efficient in order to plug gaps without actually creating the end product that the 68 offered.

68, 66, 966, 638 and 71 all messed about with to no useful effect and removing several well used links. Genius.

lynx1103

Quote from: andy on September 08, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
The 68 fiasco is without doubt the best example. And there was a u turn if you piece together the buggering about they did with the 638 (38), 966, 66 (111), 71A and finally the 71 itself to try and cover their tracks. The result being that 4 corridors were tampered with and made less efficient in order to plug gaps without actually creating the end product that the 68 offered.

68, 66, 966, 638 and 71 all messed about with to no useful effect and removing several well used links. Genius.


Service 68 has been serving Fort shopping park successfully for 13 years since October 1997 between
Hockley/Bordesley garages

Perry barr take over it in November 2009 and decide to withdrawal it due to reliability problems
Once thing they did was transfer it there maybe if it stayed with Bordesley might be still here today.

Lukeee

Quote from: andy on September 08, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
The 68 fiasco is without doubt the best example. And there was a u turn if you piece together the buggering about they did with the 638 (38), 966, 66 (111), 71A and finally the 71 itself to try and cover their tracks. The result being that 4 corridors were tampered with and made less efficient in order to plug gaps without actually creating the end product that the 68 offered.

68, 66, 966, 638 and 71 all messed about with to no useful effect and removing several well used links. Genius.

Was just about to mention this myself

williamposh

The 68 made no money and could not be justified in continuing

andy


monkeyjoe

#27
Quote from: andy on September 08, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: williamposh on September 08, 2014, 10:32:36 PM
The 68 made no money and could not be justified in continuing

Evidence?

I guess the accountants at nxwm HQ would know that and are unlikely to share that with people. If the route was so good why has no body else had a go with it.

Kevin

the 126 in town had always served the markets, then it moved to Colmore Row with all the other hagley rd buses, now it's back to the markets
Now in exile in Oxfordshire....
 

Tony

Quote from: andy on September 08, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: williamposh on September 08, 2014, 10:32:36 PM
The 68 made no money and could not be justified in continuing

Evidence?

It was also a nightmare to regulate as an Inspector at Erdington. Another bus would have been needed to make the service as reliable as a bus service should be. Buses regularly got later & later and the only easy place to adjust them was when they got to Sutton, and then if you took one out to put back on correct time if the following bus was also late you would leave a big gap for the busiest stop on the route. The extra bus would have made the route a serious loss maker.

When the service was in trouble I used to hope that two would turn up at Erdington together, which did regularly happen, as that was the easiest way to put one right without causing more disruption to passengers as you could put all the passengers on one bus and send the other to where it should be.

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