First Bus - Wyvern

[Trident 4194]

Thanks @DiamondDart. Think I'm going to do a trip to Worcester & Hereford next week

Which routes?

[PM]

Thanks @DiamondDart. Think I'm going to do a trip to Worcester & Hereford next week

No worries!

[PM]

Also - why does the 44B to Ledbury only run on Saturdays? Is the route covered by another operator during the week?

It's just for the Summer. Normally Worcester-Ledbury is covered by the 417 service run by Astons, although not via an especially similar route.

http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=twm&line=03417&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432316725&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=AST

[Solo1]

What was the decker in midland livery from Worcester
doing going up by old square in Birmingham
last night just after 17.00

[Trident 4194]

What was the decker in midland livery from Worcester
doing going up by old square in Birmingham
last night just after 17.00

33404  I think

[47609FireFly]

Looks as though 32645 has returned to Leicester with, ALX400 bodied, 32067 on the cards to be its replacement.

[Cedric]

First Hereford up for sale    see this link for  details http://www.firstgroup.com/about-us/news/statement-first-bus
affects other first companies as well

[winston]

First Hereford up for sale    see this link for  details http://www.firstgroup.com/about-us/news/statement-first-bus
affects other first companies as well

Interesting... Hereford might be of interest to Rotala to add to KR & RH to re-build MRW

First are intending to withdraw all Hereford services & shutdown the depot from 5th September
https://www.facebook.com/bbcherefordandworcester

[Cedric]

Interesting... Hereford might be of interest to Rotala to add to KR & RH to re-build MRW

personally I do not think Worcester  will  last  long  after

[the trainbasher]

Interesting... Hereford might be of interest to Rotala to add to KR & RH to re-build MRW

First are threatening to withdrawn all Hereford services & shutdown the depot from 5th September
https://www.facebook.com/bbcherefordandworcester

Would think Stagecoach would be a fit for the Hereford area as it's more their territory

[winston]

Would think Stagecoach would be a fit for the Hereford area as it's more their territory

Possibly, but there's plenty of scope to expand & link Hereford in with existing Rotala services through potentially acquiring independents such as DRM, Sargents, Yeomans Canyon Travel etc

[arrifirststage]

Possibly, but there's plenty of scope to expand & link Hereford in with existing Rotala services through potentially acquiring independents such as DRM, Sargents, Yeomans Canyon Travel etc

Who knows..........if I had to bet I would say Stagecoach who already run in from Cardiff,Abergavenny,Ross on Wye,Gloucester and Hay on Wye.
The attraction of adding a batch of Town Services and reducing dead mileage to and from the above places may be very enticing.
Most of the independents only exist at the moment on tendered work and bits picked up in the past after being discarded by Midland Red West/First,and I wouldn't think they would be worth buying.

[winston]

Who knows..........if I had to bet I would say Stagecoach who already run in from Cardiff,Abergavenny,Ross on Wye,Gloucester and Hay on Wye.
The attraction of adding a batch of Town Services and reducing dead mileage to and from the above places may be very enticing.
Most of the independents only exist at the moment on tendered work and bits picked up in the past after being discarded by Midland Red West/First,and I wouldn't think they would be worth buying.

To be fair, most of the independents suggested have much more modern fleets than First Hereford, so their work must generate a decent income

[Ashley 60171]

Bit of guesswork but perhaps Potteries will benefit from Hereford's DDA compliant fleet.

[Justin Tyme]

Historically the best interurban routes into Hereford were (and I think still are) from the south - Ross and Monmouth - and these are in the hands of Stagecoach.  With the exception of First 420 to Worcester, most other services are in the hands of various independents, including the very successful DRM with three-axle Scanias and Sargeants who have a Spectra and other newer vehicles.

As First are closing Hereford garage rather than selling it, can we presume that Stagecoach are not that interested in Hereford city?  If so, the Yeomans group could be worth watching.

Worcester is a different matter.  First are doing quite well there - probably better than in the Potteries - and the allocation at WR is not that much smaller than First Leicester's fleet.