Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[andrew1991]

They're for PN to upgrade the 9 with the current E400's cascaded onto the 140 & 241.

Thats my thoughts but it's pointless guessing, just have to wait and see

Wishful thinking!

Something like that, lol

[pb2012]

I thought the most reasonable guess was BC for the Pershore Road? Where the heck has the 37 come from?

I'd go for BC or WA as there supposed to be Y reg tridents going to dundee for school services WA 997 & possibly X51 upgrade????

[Stevo]

We're due for new buses on the 37 - they've been changed every 4 years since the B10Bs came in 1996 and the Scanias are well past 4 years. I'd like new style E400s, please.

[trident4370]

10 reg buses aren't new enough... dear me

[Wolves256]

My money is on the 37

[Sh4318]

High frequency routes such as the 37, 50 are likely to get upgraded fairly regularly. However, this doesn't explain why the 97 hasn't been upgraded ???

[Tony]

Back to reality!
The next 8 should be delivered to Glasgow this weekend

[Stu]

Just briefly touching on the 37 again...

As well as upgrading the buses on this route, the other obvious benefit is that this does then free up 20 new-ish full length single deckers (I fear that it would actually be the B7RLEs that get displaced, not the Omnilinks) to be cascaded to other garages to replace older single-deck vehicles such as Mercs and B10Ls, where it wouldn't be appropriate to replace those with smaller E200s...

Just my thoughts... now please feel free to get back to topic!  :D

[Tony]

Just briefly touching on the 37 again...

As well as upgrading the buses on this route, the other obvious benefit is that this does then free up 20 new-ish full length single deckers (I fear that it would actually be the B7RLEs that get displaced, not the Omnilinks) to be cascaded to other garages to replace older single-deck vehicles such as Mercs and B10Ls, where it wouldn't be appropriate to replace those with smaller E200s...

Just my thoughts... now please feel free to get back to topic!  :D

Apart from the fact it has been reported elsewhere that Dundee needs an extra 10 double deckers, so somewhere through these new buses arriving 10 doubles will need to be cascaded to replace those heading north. That is one reason why the 37 seems an unlikely choice

[winston]

Just briefly touching on the 37 again...

As well as upgrading the buses on this route, the other obvious benefit is that this does then free up 20 new-ish full length single deckers (I fear that it would actually be the B7RLEs that get displaced, not the Omnilinks) to be cascaded to other garages to replace older single-deck vehicles such as Mercs and B10Ls, where it wouldn't be appropriate to replace those with smaller E200s...

Just my thoughts... now please feel free to get back to topic!  :D

Stu,

I agree with your points, as the 37 has typically had new buses every 4 years previously as per the 50.

It wouldn't surprise me if both of these routes were upgraded to 'Gold Corridors' at a later date, as you say I can see the remaining B7RLE being cascaded out of AG to allow other older single deckers to be withdrawn

[Wolves256]

Tony it depends what will be transferd to Dundee. People have mentioned Tridents but toady NXD is 100% Volvo (except the hybrids and old solos) so the obvious choice  is Presidents
I assume 4111>5 will go to Dundee as originally planed to replace B10s plus a possibly another 10 for the schools contract
AG has the biggest President location

[winston]

Tony it depends what will be transferd to Dundee. People have mentioned Tridents but toady NXD is 100% Volvo (except the hybrids and old solos) so the obvious choice  is Presidents
I assume 4111>5 will go to Dundee as originally planed to replace B10s plus a possibly another 10 for the schools contract
AG has the biggest President location

It is/has been confirmed for some time that Dundee are expecting 10 x Y-reg Tridents for schools work despite not currently operating the type. It doesn't now appear anymore Presidents will move to Dundee

[Tony]

Tony it depends what will be transferd to Dundee. People have mentioned Tridents but toady NXD is 100% Volvo (except the hybrids and old solos) so the obvious choice  is Presidents
I assume 4111>5 will go to Dundee as originally planed to replace B10s plus a possibly another 10 for the schools contract
AG has the biggest President location

Which would make your theory of the new buses for the 37 even more unlikely, which route currently operated by Presidents would you put the scanias off the 37 on?

[Wolves256]

Tony, so if the 37 is updated I assume Scanias replace Volvo  B7s  (AG now have the smallest alocation) to PE,PL or CV to replace mercs

[Tony]

Tony, so if the 37 is updated I assume Scanias replace Volvo  B7s  (AG now have the smallest alocation) to PE,PL or CV to replace mercs

But you are also moving Presidents out, that would leave Acocks Green a bit short of buses. Your logic doesn't work.
If 10 double decks are going to Dundee of any type if you replace 20 Scanias with 20 new Double decks then one route somewhere will have to be converted from double deck to single deck