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26th January Changes

Started by notepanel, December 05, 2013, 02:39:04 PM

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notepanel

Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 05:31:48 PM
Will the 69E to Wednesfield at 18:10 be a existing journey that currently terminates in Wolverhampton or an extra journey? Btw if the 69E journey you mention is the last trip then it already exists. The last journey (I think its board W69/03) terminates in New Invention

Yes sorry, the 69E New Invention already exists, the new 69E to Wednesfield will essentially be the current 1805 journey terminated short.

I was comparing the 40/41 new weekday timetables today, and was quite surprised to discover there aren't quite as many cuts as I believed when I first looked.

Heading out of Walsall, there are effectively 3 journeys that will now terminate short at Willenhall & one 40E journey that is withdrawn without replacement, however there are also the new early morning 40 journey from Bentley into Wolverhampton and the 1955 41 replacing the current Diamond operated journey being introduced.

Again, heading into Walsall bar the 3 journeys that will now commence in Willenhall rather than Wolverhampton there is no reduction in the number of journeys - in fact it increases by one with the additional early evening 41. 




Kevin

Just to throw something into the mix... Looking at the 25A/C timetable, anyone know/guess how it's gonna work, does the 25A interwork with the 25C? Because the round trip is 1hr48 for the 25A and 1hr39 for the 25C (which in itself kinda makes no sense - sure there's got to be a reason for it to take 10 mins longer in one direction?)
Now in exile in Oxfordshire....
 

Trident 4609

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I can't work out the 25A/C in the week at present but I will find out for Anyone who is wondering :)

The 62/A I think will interwork together

Sunday 25/7 could still interwork together

notepanel

Quote from: Kevin on January 14, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
Just to throw something into the mix... Looking at the 25A/C timetable, anyone know/guess how it's gonna work, does the 25A interwork with the 25C? Because the round trip is 1hr48 for the 25A and 1hr39 for the 25C (which in itself kinda makes no sense - sure there's got to be a reason for it to take 10 mins longer in one direction?)

Looking at the timetable it does appear that they will interwork with one another. I personally had just assumed the loop would operate continuously (like the 8/11) and hadn't really paid much attention!

I wonder what it will have on the destination display - it's only really a 'Circular' service from the first stop!

Trident 4609

Maybe it will just have Wolverhampton Via the stopping points?

Westy

I thought Circulars were frowned upon these days?

That's the impression I got when I asked NXOD on the  old mega thread re the old Walsall ones.

notepanel

Quote from: Westy on January 15, 2014, 06:44:21 AM
I thought Circulars were frowned upon these days?

That's the impression I got when I asked NXOD on the  old mega thread re the old Walsall ones.

When on a continuous loop yes, as they can't really have any significant layover built in when things go wrong and so reliability can be hard to maintain.

However, essentially the Wolverhampton 'Circular' isn't a circular, it is a route operating Wolverhampton-Wolverhampton.

A passenger boarding in Low Hill for instance, will not have a choice of going 'the long way round the circle' to get to the i54 development (not that anybody particularly would want to!) - they can only get the 25A there and 25C back.

The timetables appear to point towards the 25A switching to a 25C upon arrival at Wolverhampton, with around 8-10 minutes layover there.

I really do not understand the purpose of making this route a Circular. I think it has the potential to be very confusing. I also find one of the key points of the new service 'a new link between Goldthorn Park & i54' a joke.

It would take 1 hour 4 minutes on the 25A, or the quicker route would be 15 minutes on the 25C to Wolverhampton, then change onto a 25C from Wolverhampton for a 15 minute ride to i54!

domino.99

Not sure is anyone will remember but last year i made a topic about interworkings and i said the 25 & 26 should interwork and matt said that was stupid looks like I called it

Trident 4609

Quote from: NXDom on January 16, 2014, 08:09:22 AM
Not sure is anyone will remember but last year i made a topic about interworkings and i said the 25 & 26 should interwork and matt said that was stupid looks like I called it

Except the 25/6 won't interwork as the the 26 is being withdrawn and replaced with an extended 25.

Although it was an interesting idea at the time of you posting that there wasn't any need for the 25/6 to interwork

uniquicity

A later trip on the 74 has been added in these changes. 00.30 from Birmingham. Not sure if it terminates in WB or Great Bridge.

notepanel

Quote from: uniquicity on January 16, 2014, 10:53:32 AM
A later trip on the 74 has been added in these changes. 00.30 from Birmingham. Not sure if it terminates in WB or Great Bridge.

It will terminate at Great Bridge, this is basically the current 0015 journey pushed back by 15 minutes. The 2355 journey through to Dudley will now operate at 0000.

domino.99

To be fair nathan it's not a interwork but it is combining the tow routes together so there isn't much of a differance but anyway i wander what the main allocation is going to be because the 25/A is mainly mercs and a couple of B6's and the 26 is all B6 on a normal day so i recon probably merc and B7rle if there are any spare in the garage

Trident 4609

Quote from: NXDom on January 16, 2014, 01:05:05 PM
To be fair nathan it's not a interwork but it is combining the tow routes together so there isn't much of a differance but anyway i wander what the main allocation is going to be because the 25/A is mainly mercs and a couple of B6's and the 26 is all B6 on a normal day so i recon probably merc and B7rle if there are any spare in the garage

You just repeated what i said! I believe the current allocation (More Tridents/Spectra's will be appearing) of the 25 will be kept.

62/A will interwork on their own too


the trainbasher

Quote from: Westy on January 19, 2014, 12:08:27 AM
Timetables now available online

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-26th-january-2014

http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/Wednesfield/New_timetables.aspx

Anyone notice which non NXWM service hasn't got a timetable on the Centro site (clue - if it's not changed then I highly doubt it will remain on stops anyway!)


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