London Buses.

[Busboy105]

Why GAL?

It's the one that's most likely considering they've had the upper hand on Arriva due to them investing heavily in electric vehicles.

[Busboy105]

The fact it is LTs makes no difference whatsoever

It does actually. It means that Arriva could go in with a lower bid than GAL or other operators would've done with electrics.

[Pat]

It does actually. It means that Arriva could go in with a lower bid than GAL or other operators would've done with electrics.

The LTs aren't electric.  The past few years have seen some of the smaller operators e.g Sullivan take over a few tenders in North London, so it may have been likely that they'd submit a bid

[Busboy105]

The LTs aren't electric.  The past few years have seen some of the smaller operators e.g Sullivan take over a few tenders in North London, so it may have been likely that they'd submit a bid

That is true yes.

[Pat]

That is true yes.

I was rather surprised that the 313 was allocated LTs.  That said though, the Exxx buses that they replaced weren't the best anyway

[Tony]

It does actually. It means that Arriva could go in with a lower bid than GAL or other operators would've done with electrics.

Not at all, any operator could have bid using LTs, and if TfL would have wanted electrics, again any operator could bid.

[Stuharris 6360]

Does anyone know what is up with Holloway's NBFL LT755?

It has not been out since the end of March.

I am currently trying to complete my photo set of all NBFLs, I now up to 979 out of 1000, the other 20 I need are all regularly out is service. It last operated a 390 board up to 00:30 and apparently is still in DKNY allover advert livery

@Tony LT755 is now back in service, on a 91 board today still apparently in DKNY livery although it has a red front after an accident.

[Tony]

@Tony LT755 is now back in service, on a 91 board today still apparently in DKNY livery although it has a red front after an accident.

Thanks, yes I found out it had been back to Wrights for a new front.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator           New Operator          PVR          Vehicles
125                    Metroline                  London Sovereign       17         New Electric Double Decker*
234                    Metroline                         Metroline                9         Existing Diesel Single Decker
235                    Metroline                    London United           20         New Electric Single Decker
298                Sullivan Buses                 Sullivan Buses             6         Existing Diesel Single Decker**
488                 Tower Transit                   Tower Transit             9         Existing Diesel Single Decker
696                London United               London Sovereign         2         Existing Diesel Double Decker 
W9                 Sullivan Buses                 Sullivan Buses             7         Existing Diesel Single Decker

* Certain journeys will be operated by Euro VI hybrid double decks.
** One vehicle is double deck.

All diesel vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

8th January 2022: Route 235.
22nd January 2022: Route 696.
29th January 2022: Routes 125 & 234.
5th February 2022: Routes 298 & W9.
26th February 2022: Route 488.

[Busboy105]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator           New Operator          PVR          Vehicles
125                    Metroline                  London Sovereign       17         New Electric Double Decker*
234                    Metroline                         Metroline                9         Existing Diesel Single Decker
235                    Metroline                    London United           20         New Electric Single Decker
298                Sullivan Buses                 Sullivan Buses             6         Existing Diesel Single Decker**
488                 Tower Transit                   Tower Transit             9         Existing Diesel Single Decker
696                London United               London Sovereign         2         Existing Diesel Double Decker 
W9                 Sullivan Buses                 Sullivan Buses             7         Existing Diesel Single Decker

* Certain journeys will be operated by Euro VI hybrid double decks.
** One vehicle is double deck.

All diesel vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

8th January 2022: Route 235.
22nd January 2022: Route 696.
29th January 2022: Routes 125 & 234.
5th February 2022: Routes 298 & W9.
26th February 2022: Route 488.

RATP big winners here.

[markcf83]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator           New Operator          PVR          Vehicles
125                    Metroline                  London Sovereign       17         New Electric Double Decker*
235                    Metroline                    London United           20         New Electric Single Decker
* Certain journeys will be operated by Euro VI hybrid double decks.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

8th January 2022: Route 235.
29th January 2022: Route 125.

Hounslow for the 235,Edgware the 125.

[Ian Hardy]

Hounslow for the 235,Edgware the 125.

RATP have announced to their staff that the 235 is going to be operated from Hounslow Heath (HH) and not Hounslow (AV).

[markcf83]

To be fair, it's got the room.....

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator           New Operator          PVR          Vehicles
308                Tower Transit                 Tower Transit             13          Existing Hybrid Double Deck
413                Metrobus*                     Metrobus                     8          Single Deck (Details TBC)
507                London General             London General         TBC       Existing electric single deck
521                London General             London General         TBC       Existing electric single deck
646                Blue Triangle                  Blue Triangle                2         Existing Diesel single deck

* Contract to be novated from Quality Line on 3rd July 2021.


All diesel and hybrid vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards.


The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

28th August 2021: Routes 507 & 521.

4th September 2021: Route 646.

4th December 2021: Route 413.

5th March 2022: Route 308.

[markcf83]

Changes to the Red Arrow routes,what remains of them,could in theory release electric buses for the 358. I stress the word could.....