London Buses.

[Ian Hardy]

Take it the 521 will take the biggest hit, not surprising with a bus in the peak period every 2 - 3 minutes.

According to Buses Mag July 2021 the 507 goes from 15 down to 9 and the 521 from 32 down to 15 from 28/08/2021.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator               New Operator                PVR          Vehicles
13                     Tower Transit                   Tower Transit               22 (-9)     Existing Hybrid Double Decker
204                     Metroline                         Metroline                    15            New Electric Double Deck

The hybrid vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

2nd April 2022: Route 13.

30th April 2022: Route 204.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator               New Operator                PVR          Vehicles
111 (24h)        London United                Abellio West London        27 (+2)  New electric double deck
177                Stagecoach Selkent          Stagecoach Selkent         18 (-1)   Existing Hybrid Double Deck
613                 London United                    London United               1           Existing Hybrid Double Deck
U10                Metroline West                   Metroline West               1 (-1)    Existing Hybrid Single Deck

> The hybrid and diesel vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards.
>
> The above contracts will commence on the following dates:
>
> 30th April 2022: Routes 111 & U10.
>
> 28th May 2022: Route 177.
>
> 30th July 2022: Route 613.
>
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[markcf83]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator               New Operator                PVR          Vehicles
111 (24h)        London United                Abellio West London        27 (+2)  New electric double deck
177                Stagecoach Selkent          Stagecoach Selkent         18 (-1)   Existing Hybrid Double Deck
613                 London United                    London United               1           Existing Hybrid Double Deck
U10                Metroline West                   Metroline West               1 (-1)    Existing Hybrid Single Deck

> The hybrid and diesel vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards.
>
> The above contracts will commence on the following dates:
>
> 30th April 2022: Routes 111 & U10.
>
> 28th May 2022: Route 177.
>
> 30th July 2022: Route 613.
>
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Massive loss for London United, and especially Hounslow who've run the 111 for over 60 YEARS solo.

[Stuharris 6360]

From what I have read, 111 to be operated by Twickenham.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator               New Operator                PVR          Vehicles
70                 London United                  London United                  19       Existing electric single deck
135               Docklands Buses               Tower Transit                   15        Existing hybrid double deck
217               Sullivan Buses                   Sullivan Buses                  11       Existing diesel double deck
617               Sullivan Buses                   Sullivan Buses                   2        Existing diesel double deck
629               Sullivan Buses                   Sullivan Buses                   1        Existing diesel double deck
678         Stagecoach East London         Tower Transit                    4        Existing hybrid double deck
733                        n/a                            Tower Transit                  15        Existing hybrid double deck

The hybrid and diesel vehicles detailed above will meet Euro VI emissions standards. Route 733 is a temporary service operating during the planned 17 week closure of the Bank Branch of the Northern Line.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

15th January 2022: Route 733.
2nd April 2022: Routes 617, 629 & 678.
21st May 2022: Route 135.
4th June 2022: Route 217.
25th June 2022: Route 70.

[markcf83]

Finally, a gain for Tower Transit. Wonder what will happen to the EHV's currently used on the 135.

[Ian Hardy]

TfL Bus Tendering Programme Update announced on 050821

Routes: 36/N36, 41/N41, 99, 118, 121, 138, 141, 153, 161, 169, 172, 181, 225, 233, 247, 258, 269, 284, 287, 299, 329, 343/N343, 401, 422, 423, B14, B16, H22, H28, H37/NH37, H98, W4 & W6 have had two-year extensions agreed under the terms of the Quality Incentive Contracts, therefore they will no longer form part of the 2022/2023 programme. In addition, routes 142 and 642 in Tranche 821 will now be retendered as a single contract. Proposed new routes 439 and S2, both connected to the proposed Sutton Scheme, have been moved from Tranche 779 in the 2021/2022 programme to new Tranche 819A in the 2022/2023 programme.

The Tendering Programme for 2022/2023 is therefore revised as follows:
Tranche   Routes
799A   383 & 384
800       613
801      Tranche CANCELLED
802       116, 662, 665 & 671
803       Tranche CANCELLED
804       119/N119, 198 & 264/N264
805       Tranche CANCELLED
806       664 & 684
806A       638
807       A10
808       605, 628/688 & 653/683
809       Tranche CANCELLED
810       149/N149 & 349
810A       168
811       248 & 339
812       226 & 632
813       11/N11
814       220/N220, 295/N295 & 297/N297
815       353 & 359
816       78 & 621
817       190 & 635
818       92
819      80, 93/N93, 151, 154/N154, 163, 164 & 470
819A    439 & S2
820       155/N155 & 159/N159
821       142/642 & 307/N307
822      B13
823       47/N47
824       W5
825       91/N91 & 263
826       H32/NH32 & H91
827       187, 487 & N97
828       Tranche CANCELLED
829       Tranche CANCELLED

[IMarkeh]

Why does TFL put routes out in tranches even though a number of the tranches go out at the same time and award announcements go out at the same time. Wouldn't it just make sense to have 824 and 825 linked since the dates for paperwork stuff is all the same.

Some of the earlier ones are even more odd with 3 tranches all having the same tender issue, return and award dates. They seem to be split for the sake of splitting them.

[markcf83]

Why does TFL put routes out in tranches even though a number of the tranches go out at the same time and award announcements go out at the same time. Wouldn't it just make sense to have 824 and 825 linked since the dates for paperwork stuff is all the same.

Some of the earlier ones are even more odd with 3 tranches all having the same tender issue, return and award dates. They seem to be split for the sake of splitting them.

Other routes that were in those tranches are in all likelihood would've been given a two year extension of the contract.

[Ian Hardy]

Why does TFL put routes out in tranches even though a number of the tranches go out at the same time and award announcements go out at the same time. Wouldn't it just make sense to have 824 and 825 linked since the dates for paperwork stuff is all the same.

Some of the earlier ones are even more odd with 3 tranches all having the same tender issue, return and award dates. They seem to be split for the sake of splitting them.

Recently TfL have had a tranche consisting of double deck routes and then the following tranche consisting of single deck routes. They are split up probably due to financial / accounting reasons, as I cannot see any other reason for doing it.

[Wumpty]

https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/london-buses-2-fake-boris-21237919

The pair of Wrightbus SRM's have now been withdrawn - known by enthusiasts as "Fake Boris Buses", these are identical to the NBLs from the from though omit the rear platform and have no opening windows.

[Stuharris 6360]

https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/london-buses-2-fake-boris-21237919

The pair of Wrightbus SRM's have now been withdrawn - known by enthusiasts as "Fake Boris Buses", these are identical to the NBLs from the from though omit the rear platform and have no opening windows.

Sorry but the article is totally wrong, some of them are currently being prepared to be used on the X140 and 698 from next month as per the new contract.

[Ian Hardy]

There are 8 SRMs:
6 (VHRs) with RATP (4 of them were last used in July with two were in use on 05/08/2021), they are currently being refurbished which is why they are not in use.
2 (VHP1 & VHP2) with Go Ahead for the 37 which were going to partly electric with charging points at Putney Heath and Peckham but planning permission for the charging points was refused so they are being used as pure hybrids with both in use today: VHP1 https://lvf.io/#LDN|history%20BV18YAD & VHP2 https://lvf.io/#LDN|HISTORY%20BV18YAE

So a very inaccurate story from a local "rag" website with a equally inaccurate response from that high quality organisation called Transport for London who ought to know better but with a strapline of "Every journey matters" I am not so sure:-)

[Tony]

I photographed LT988 yesterday,
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/NBFL/LT988.html
nothing particularly special about that, other than the fact it mens I have now photographed all 1000 for the main site
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/NBFL/NBFL.html