VERY Late running services

[MW]

breaks at termini also don't count as driving time

Whilst they don't count as driving time, they don't count as breaks either. Or am I mistaken?

Again in reference to the 69. It's timetabled to arrive at the terminus at XX:29, and then depart at XX:34. These 5 mins (provided it's running on time, can't be accumulated say after 3 trips to equate to a 15 minute break, right?

[metrocity]

Whilst they don't count as driving time, they don't count as breaks either. Or am I mistaken?

Again in reference to the 69. It's timetabled to arrive at the terminus at XX:29, and then depart at XX:34. These 5 mins (provided it's running on time, can't be accumulated say after 3 trips to equate to a 15 minute break, right?

If the driver in theory can turn the engine off and step away from the wheel then they count towards the 45 minutes

[Steveminor]

Driving hours rules can be complicated especially if you start mixing domestic & eu hours. The maximum amount of hours that you can drive in any 24 hour period is 10. If driving straight through. I.e little to no layover then the maximum you can do in one portion is 5 1/2 hours. This can be extended to 8 1/2 hours if the driver gets an accumulated break of 45 mins I.e 15 mins 3 times in the portion layover etc The driver MUST then have a 30 min rest unless it's at the end of his working day.

[Trident 4194]

Driving hours rules can be complicated especially if you start mixing domestic & eu hours. The maximum amount of hours that you can drive in any 24 hour period is 10. If driving straight through. I.e little to no layover then the maximum you can do in one portion is 5 1/2 hours. This can be extended to 8 1/2 hours if the driver gets an accumulated break of 45 mins I.e 15 mins 3 times in the portion layover etc The driver MUST then have a 30 min rest unless it's at the end of his working day.

How come diamond drivers work for 12 hours + not including breaks

[MW]

How come diamond drivers work for 12 hours + not including breaks

It's legal for your duty to be up to 16 hours. It's illegal for your driving time to exceed 10 hours.

[2206]

11A service seems to be running late this afternoon.
Saw a convey of 4 in Ward End at about 13:10.
6136 was running 27 minutes late, at Ward End at about 13:55. Then there is a 20 minute gap between 6136 and the next one.
And another 20 minute gap at 15:15 for the 11A at the minute, which was 6137.

[MasterPlan]

3 ☓21s in the space of a few mins. 1 only going to University Station, 1 to Weoley Castle and 1 to Woodcock Hill. Shambles.
But don't worry, the timetables will be altered slightly in January, so all good...

[Tony]

3 ☓21s in the space of a few mins. 1 only going to University Station, 1 to Weoley Castle and 1 to Woodcock Hill. Shambles.
But don't worry, the timetables will be altered slightly in January, so all good...

No timetable would be able to cope with city traffic today

[karl724223]

All services around cradley heath interchange are subject to delay due to  burst water main right outside it
Services to merry hill using interchange
Services from merry hill using bus stop over the road by tyre place
Work expected for five days

[Trident 4194]

30827 has just took a very healthy load to blackheath as a result of 2 4Hs in convoy heading to Hayley green

[MasterPlan]

6881 & 6884 in convoy along Gregory Avenue towards City on the ☓21, with 6886 going the other way not far from the terminus either.

[Gareth]

6881 & 6884 in convoy along Gregory Avenue towards City on the ☓21, with 6886 going the other way not far from the terminus either.

2 is hardly a 'convoy'.

[Mike K]

2 is hardly a 'convoy'.

Far from ideal on an every 20 minute service though.

[Trident 4194]

What shît show they performing on the 4H this morning. 1862 ran past in Hayley green NIS before starting up at terminus in lutley lane. 1845 is parked in Halesowen bus station don't know what doing. Meanwhile all diamonds run within 5 mins of schedule all morning

[Jack]

Birchfield Road buses and the 11's are running extremely late because the African Village (Crown and Cushion) is in a massive blaze. From what I've seen and heard a 33, 51 and 907 are stranded outbound  on the island...