Birmingham Central Garage

[winston]

Of course
Wheel forward increases the wheelbase so causing a larger turning circle
On the 636 it ll be mayham

No, the largest WF Streetlites (max 37 seating capacity) are only 9.5M long, where as BC's E200's are 10.8M long.

[Liverpool Street]

No, the largest WF Streetlites (max 37 seating capacity) are only 9.5M long, where as BC's E200's are 10.8M long.

Apologies

[The Real 4778]

No, the largest WF Streetlites (max 37 seating capacity) are only 9.5M long, where as BC's E200's are 10.8M long.

Is that length over bodywork, or wheelbase though?

[winston]

Is that length over bodywork, or wheelbase though?

Total length

[Jack6101]

 There was a silver streetlite not in service in harbourn around 11ish can anyone confirm if it's the bc loan one

[The Real 4778]

Total length

Doing some rough maths then, if a door portal/ assembly is approx 1.4m wide, then door forward configuration knocks your steered wheels back by a similar amount, making the wheelbase, and therefore manoeuvrability, roughly equivalent on the two designs. 

[winston]

Doing some rough maths then, if a door portal/ assembly is approx 1.4m wide, then door forward configuration knocks your steered wheels back by a similar amount, making the wheelbase, and therefore manoeuvrability, roughly equivalent on the two designs.

But you've still got 1.4M less bus to contend with in front of your wheels

[Liverpool Street]

Doing some rough maths then, if a door portal/ assembly is approx 1.4m wide, then door forward configuration knocks your steered wheels back by a similar amount, making the wheelbase, and therefore manoeuvrability, roughly equivalent on the two designs. 

I wish I could write posts like this
This is quality material

[The Real 4778]

But you've still got 1.4M less bus to contend with in front of your wheels

Indeed - it struck me that if the turning circle is effectively the same on both then the wheels-forward design would be more driver-friendly because of easier attack into tight corners.

[The Real 4778]

I wish I could write posts like this
This is quality material

LOLLARC - I can't stop myself - when vehicle/ fleet* consulting is the day job my mind has to go into enquiring/ problem solving mode!!!


* - trains though, I know next to nowt about buses

[Matt.N0056]

Indeed - it struck me that if the turning circle is effectively the same on both then the wheels-forward design would be more driver-friendly because of easier attack into tight corners.

The steering lock on the WF streetlites is crap though, unless they have improved it on newer models

[Trident 4194]

Crimson trident-24

[Dylanbusboy45]

5503 is on the 61/63 today. Seen at 15:28 on Moor St heading towards Frankley

[andy41]

Anyone who thinks the WF 9.5m Streetlite is more driver friendly or manoeuvrable seriously needs to get a licence and get in one. They are truly hideous machines in every respect,

Zero turning circle and steering lock, virtually no power steering, too low slung giving a dreadful ride, terrible suspension and shock absorption particularly on the front axle, no power due to being far too heavy for the kit in them, dreadful brakes and in my case what seemed like only a 3 speed box with no selector, meaning you are its mercy.

If you manage to escape from the cab with your life, turn to your left and marvel at how they astonishingly crammed 37 'seats' in. If you manage to fit into a seat without removing your knee caps and putting them in your pocket, you will find yourself in a very perilous situation, akin to that moment when you're sat in a deck chair that's trying to fold itself up with you in it, only less comfortable. Fine for taking oompa loompas to work, not much use for anything else.

I wouldn't deliver milk in it.

[markcf83]

Streetlites are shocking buses. Underpowered and very sluggish when pulling away from stops. First have them in the neighbouring fleets that are either side of me in South Wales.