Vehicle Transfers

[wulfrun]

I assume recent transfers to PL 4619, 4633 and 4634 are now fitted with Euro 6 engines?
Brand new engines - or retro fitted exhausts?

[Tony]

I assume recent transfers to PL 4619, 4633 and 4634 are now fitted with Euro 6 engines?
Brand new engines - or retro fitted exhausts?

No, It is because they are not euro 6 they have been moved out of an area where they cost £50 per day to operate

[wulfrun]

No, It is because they are not euro 6 they have been moved out of an area where they cost £50 per day to operate

Thanks Tony.

You mentioned in the Walsall Garage thread these were up for a Euro 6 upgrade.

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all buses in the range 4718-4995
5401/3-8/13/14/16/18 all others in this range are in process
4619/33/34 will follow these

You also said back in Nov 2021 on BC Garage Thread

[4633] is in the garage and will be back on the road soon. It has just had a replacement engine fitted

So I presumed this may have been the planned Euro 6 upgrade - but just an like for like engine swap?

Does this mean it looks increasingly likely that NXWM will not be compliant when all journeys into Wolverhampton AQPS require Euro 6 emission standards from 24th April 2022? PL needs around 44 Euro 6 deckers for NXWM to be compliant - if current level of service is to be maintained.

[Tony]

Thanks Tony.

You mentioned in the Walsall Garage thread these were up for a Euro 6 upgrade.
You also said back in Nov 2021 on BC Garage ThreadSo I presumed this may have been the planned Euro 6 upgrade - but just an like for like engine swap?

Does this mean it looks increasingly likely that NXWM will not be compliant when all journeys into Wolverhampton AQPS require Euro 6 emission standards from 24th April 2022? PL needs around 44 Euro 6 deckers for NXWM to be compliant - if current level of service is to be maintained.

You cannot put a euro 6 engine in an older bus, they physically don't fit. The plan was for those three to have exhausts fitted, but because of their different engines they couldn't have standard trident kits fitted which is why they initially stayed at BC

Yes it does look like the euro 6 deadline will be missed, same as Solihull and Coventry which should also be 100% euro 6 now. It was drawn up before Covid happened which has delayed everything by two years, NX always plan on 100 new buses a year which they were unable to do for the last two years, they had planned to be completely euro 6 by the end of 2020 well ahead of all the deadlines. TfWM are aware of the situation.

[Raedwald]

I saw 4456 being driven to Miller Street at approx 1400 this afternoon - is this just where buses are stored or is there potential for it to re-enter service at some point?

[BN]

I saw 4456 being driven to Miller Street at approx 1400 this afternoon - is this just where buses are stored or is there potential for it to re-enter service at some point?

For a 4400 it was a good bus so it will be stripped of major units before being sold.

[BBS]

No sign of 1815 at Acocks Green Yet

[Tony]

No sign of 1815 at Acocks Green Yet

Yes there is, it was taken there Friday, I dropped an AG engineer at PB to collect it

[BBS]

Yes there is, it was taken there Friday, I dropped an AG engineer at PB to collect it

oh right great to here

[Tony]

4464 has been withdrawn from Coventry (engine problems), but is currently on the back of a tow truck to Wolverhampton to see if it is worth fixing to replace 4310 which unfortunately has been found to not have enough chassis left to be worth putting through another MoT

[Westy]

4464 has been withdrawn from Coventry (engine problems), but is currently on the back of a tow truck to Wolverhampton to see if it is worth fixing to replace 4310 which unfortunately has been found to not have enough chassis left to be worth putting through another MoT

Would I be correct in thinking an engine swap might be in order?

[Tony]

Would I be correct in thinking an engine swap might be in order?

No

[Celestial Toymaker]

The press quote about 130 buses early next year was a bit misleading, that is when they hope to have all 130 in service, the first ones are already on the production line at falkirk

Will these start at E029 - E159    :-\

[BK63 YWP]

Will these start at E029 - E159    :-\

E030 - E160, E029 already exists

[Tony]

E030 - E160, E029 already exists

They won't be E030-E159 either, you will see why in a couple of months