Vehicle Transfers

[Mike K]

So are YW losing all their Scanias? Seems that way doesn't it?

That's 37 single decks. I can't see them getting 37 E200s from AG. If they get at least 2231-2250, that's 20. Will something be converted to double deck I wonder?


I'm sure the mystery will be solved as we'll probably find out tomorrow

B7RLEs from BC perhaps (pure speculation)?

[John]

So are YW losing all their Scanias? Seems that way doesn't it?

That's 37 single decks. I can't see them getting 37 E200s from AG. If they get at least 2231-2250, that's 20. Will something be converted to double deck I wonder?


I'm sure the mystery will be solved as we'll probably find out tomorrow

Not all of them

[filbus1]

So are YW losing all their Scanias? Seems that way doesn't it?

That's 37 single decks. I can't see them getting 37 E200s from AG. If they get at least 2231-2250, that's 20. Will something be converted to double deck I wonder?


I'm sure the mystery will be solved as we'll probably find out tomorrow

YW are having 21 E200s, some Scanias are staying for the 27.

[monkeyjoe]

6 getting an upgrade then. Does Stratford Rd cope with all these little buses?

[Tony]

OK
Here's what's happened/happening
4157; 4161; 4164 BC-WA (+4167 later in the month)
4129 BC-reserve but along with reserve 4192 to CV
1898-907/25/6/8-33/5 YW-PB (+1927 & 1934 later in the month)
2230-6/8-43/5-50 AG-YW (some still to move today; 2237/44 later in the month)
4163/8/70 BC-WN (+4171/84 still to move)
4173 BC-PN
4130/2/60/62/81/3 BC-reserve
4156/65 BC-withdrawn for scrap
4225-31/3/4 WB-AG
4237/9-41/3-5/77 PB-WB (4237/9/43 still to move)
4242; 4500/1/3/5-7 PB-AG (4507 still to move; 4502/4 later in the month)
4384/5 YW-BC
4928/9 PB-BC

[Mike K]

Interesting. So with BC not losing any B7RLEs, presumably these will be used to supplement double decks on the more frequent 60, and increasingly so on the 29 and probably 24 too.

[Stu]

6 getting an upgrade then. Does Stratford Rd cope with all these little buses?

6 and 37 cope just fine with single decks as they are the two most frequent services. The only time there are crowding issues is when gaps in service appear and buses start bunching.

Don't forget, the E200 MMCs are the full-length version, and actually have more seating capacity than the Omnilinks (as well as being less cramped).

[2206]

Where will the extra B7RLE not on the 98/X64 be used @Tony?

[Trident 4194]

Where will the extra B7RLE not on the 98/X64 be used @Tony?

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[Michael Bevan]

4157 is out at WA today on the 10/A.

[paulb1973]

OK
Here's what's happened/happening
4157; 4161; 4164 BC-WA (+4167 later in the month)
4129 BC-reserve but along with reserve 4192 to CV
1898-907/25/6/8-33/5 YW-PB (+1927 & 1934 later in the month)
2230-6/8-43/5-50 AG-YW (some still to move today; 2237/44 later in the month)
4163/8/70 BC-WN (+4171/84 still to move)
4173 BC-PN
4130/2/60/62/81/3 BC-reserve
4156/65 BC-withdrawn for scrap
4225-31/3/4 WB-AG
4237/9-41/3-5/77 PB-WB (4237/9/43 still to move)
4242; 4500/1/3/5-7 PB-AG (4507 still to move; 4502/4 later in the month)
4384/5 YW-BC
4928/9 PB-BC

Incorporating all those changes (even the ones occurring later in the month) I think this is [or will be] the breakdown of active bus types at each garage:

Acocks Green
29 E200MMC (2201-29)
23 B7/ALX (4225-31/33-34/42/4292-304)
79 Gemini (4500-19/21-34; 4635-79)
10 E400MMC (6701-10)
___
141


Birmingham Central
32 B7RLE (2078-80/2124-52)
72 Trident (4148/66/69/72/76-77/79/85; 4384-85; 4440-9/55-74; 4594-96; 4606-34)
51 E400 (4871-80/95-913/928-49)
18 B5H (5501-18)
30 E400MMC (6825-54)
___
203


Bordesley
49 Scania (1788-1836)
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49


Coventry
10 E200 (840-4/71-5)
25 B7RLE (2153-77)
47 Trident (4144/90/203-4/6-24; 4396-4414/50-4)
10 B7/ALX (4415-24)
54 E400 (4763-76; 4830-42/81-94; 4983-95)
8 O530G (6013-15/17-21)
___
154 [+4129/92]


Pensnett
22 E200 (758-60/801-4/23-30/64-70)
31 B7RLE (2081-111)
5 Wright StreetDeck (3301-5)
23 Trident (4173/80/93-98; 4425-39)
30 E400MMC (6101-22; 6711-18)
___
111


Perry Barr
4 E200 (761-4)
51 Scania (1863-77; 1898-907/25-35; 7019-33)
14 B7/ALX (4278-91)
35 Gemini (4475-4499; 4687-96)
5 Scania DD (4777-81)
44 E400 (4799-815/17-29/43-56)
29 E400MMC (6796-6824)
___
182


Walsall
6 E200 (855-60)
46 Scania (1837-62/78-97)
32 B7RLE (1750-73; 2112-9)
42 Trident (4125-7/54-55/57/61/64/67; 4305-9/26-32/46-54/56-58; 4597-605)
19 E400 (4733-7; 4857-70)
40 E400MMC (6719-58)
___
185


West Bromwich
29 E200 (753-57; 805-9/13-22/31-9)
19 Scania (1918/36-53)
40 B7/ALX (4235-37/39-41/43-54/56-77)
72 E400 (4738-62; 4914-27; 4950-82)
___
160


Wolverhampton
18 E200 (751-2; 810-12/45-54/61-3)
52 B7RLE (2001-29/59-77; 2120-3)
84 Trident (4133-37/39-43/45-47/49-53/63/68/70-71/84; 4310-25; 4535-64/78-92)
21 E400H (5401-21)
37 E400MMC (6759-95)
___
212


Yardley Wood
15 Scania (1909-17/19-24)
21 E200MMC (2230-50)
59 Trident (4333-35/37-40/42-45/59-83/86-95; 4565-77)
16 E400 (4698; 4718-32)
26 E400MMC (6123-48)
___
137

Total 1534


Apologies if there are any errors/omissions/incorrect totals. I have excluded driver/static trainers (total 34), the Health Bus (1), preserved 3225 (1) and the reserve/withdrawn fleet (which I think now totals 69 if 4129/4192/4201 are included - I've lost track of the whereabouts of 4201!).

[winston]

BC's allocation has dropped by over 10% since the end of April. I had circa 226 allocated to BC up until the withdrawal of the 99 / prior to BC's E200's being transferred elsewhere. Since falling to 220, and now down by a further 17 due to the 4th June changes.....

[paulb1973]

BC's allocation has dropped by over 10% since the end of April. I had circa 226 allocated to BC up until the withdrawal of the 99 / prior to BC's E200's being transferred elsewhere. Since falling to 220, and now down by a further 17 due to the 4th June changes.....

It seems that way! BC has taken a real hit, its been overtaken by Wolves too. West Brom's total has dipped slightly (compared to the 165-167 of old). Dear old CV is still hovering around 154-156 (I can recall 164 being the garage total c.1994). PB & WA don't appear to have changed greatly, while YW & AG seem to have undergone a minor trim.

[winston]

It seems that way! BC has taken a real hit, its been overtaken by Wolves too. West Brom's total has dipped slightly (compared to the 165-167 of old). Dear old CV is still hovering around 154-156 (I can recall 164 being the garage total c.1994). PB & WA don't appear to have changed greatly, while YW & AG seem to have undergone a minor trim.

WN is approaching it's all time high allocation of circa 220.

The overall NXWM allocation had been steadily growing, however, as a result of the East Birmingham cuts, it's going the opposite way again.

[monkeyjoe]

Well the us division is in the )hit isn't it