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Service Changes July 20th 2025

Started by Stu, June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PM

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keyy927

Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 15, 2025, 10:58:17 PMIf you knew what finacial pressure the bus industry in under a whole then you wouldn't be making comments like this !
both can be true though, no? as in the industry can be under pressure, but there is still a very heavy negative for elderly people who may not be able to drive and therefore do rely on buses like the 12A and 13. your comment is very monetary & quite honestly narrow minded, especially if this isn't a problem for you because you're not an OAP who has mobility issues. what should they do?
local routes:
45 - Birmingham to Longbridge
47 - Birmingham to Longbridge
49 - Solihull to Rubery Great Park
63 - Birmingham to Frankley
X20 - Birmingham to Rednal/Bromsgrove

+ 19, 55, 145, 145A, 182, 183, 202

Jack

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Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 15, 2025, 10:58:17 PMIf you knew what finacial pressure the bus industry in under a whole then you wouldn't be making comments like this !
Completely narrow minded and selfish comment from you as per usual...

Nice to see NX are once again going to leave people stranded! Shame a local service like the 121 can't return to give Tower Road a bus, that's awfully steep hill and quite a walk to the nearest service especially if you live far enough up! Tower Road does also have custom so i'm surprised there's not a replacement service at least for that road. Salop Road lost the 48A and was given the 54 rerouted, surprised nothings been done for Tower Road!

2206

Quote from: Jack on June 16, 2025, 12:31:07 AMCompletely narrow minded and selfish comment from you as per usual...

Nice to see NX are once again going to leave people stranded! Shame a local service like the 121 can't return to give Tower Road a bus, that's awfully steep hill and quite a walk to the nearest service especially if you live far enough up! Tower Road does also have custom so i'm surprised there's not a replacement service at least for that road. Salop Road lost the 48A and was given the 54 rerouted, surprised nothings been done for Tower Road!
The full details of the changes haven't even been announced yet. Might be good to wait and see before rushing ahead.

It could even be possible another service in that area will be rerouted to cover. 14?
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

CJS47

Quote from: The Transport Youtuber on June 15, 2025, 10:39:46 PM13 going means that anyone wanting an alternate service in warley will have to walk 10 to 15mins extra. this isnt too big of a problem for the young but what about the elderly???
The new 13 (13A) is Bleakhouse Road, then George Road, Bristnall Hall Road, Salop Road, Hurst Road, then Abbey Road. 

Westy

Is there any parts of the network that seem fairly stable?

One time they tried to do a major change on the Bloxwich routes, there was uproar & they ended up changing them back!

The arrangement of current services here seems pretty solid, so other than possible timetable changes, nothing major ought to happen?

Wumpty

Quote from: Westy on June 16, 2025, 04:23:45 AMIs there any parts of the network that seem fairly stable?

One time they tried to do a major change on the Bloxwich routes, there was uproar & they ended up changing them back!

The arrangement of current services here seems pretty solid, so other than possible timetable changes, nothing major ought to happen?
I vividly remember the Bloxwich debacle that cost WMT/WMB (and some jobs!) and caused huge reputational damage to the business, though Choice and Chase were gifted a fantastic opportunity which paid dividends.

Much of the network that I use, know of and have experience with seems pretty stable - I know the changes to PN15 has caused a few issues, but you can't win them all!
Autofare 3 - the ticket that laughs in the face of contactless!

karl724223

Quote from: Wumpty on June 16, 2025, 08:35:04 AMI vividly remember the Bloxwich debacle that cost WMT/WMB (and some jobs!) and caused huge reputational damage to the business, though Choice and Chase were gifted a fantastic opportunity which paid dividends.

Much of the network that I use, know of and have experience with seems pretty stable - I know the changes to PN15 has caused a few issues, but you can't win them all!
Biggest problem with pn15 was lack of communication flags and timetables not changed in tfwm land 
As of last week flags still said 15/15A

frostjay974

#52
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 15, 2025, 10:58:17 PMIf you knew what finacial pressure the bus industry in under a whole then you wouldn't be making comments like this !


Get a load of this guy

Tony

Quote from: frostjay974 on June 16, 2025, 10:01:45 AMGet a load of this guy
Well when the Government increases your biggest cost (labour) by 2% in one go without that Labour (staff) seeing a penny of it that is a massive pressure to absorb.

Steve3229vp

Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2025, 10:44:03 AMWell when the Government increases your biggest cost (labour) by 2% in one go without that Labour (staff) seeing a penny of it that is a massive pressure to absorb.
I was just making what I thought was a valid comment, my wording probably should have better.

Sh4318

Quote13 going means that anyone wanting an alternate service in warley will have to walk 10 to 15mins extra. this isnt too big of a problem for the young but what about the elderly???

12A going means that people would have to walk downhill/uphill. a minor inconvenience for the youth but a major problem for the elderly and those with poorer mobillity

going from having effectively no walking to do to walking 15mins for the same bus is a good incentive to buy a car!
I'm as disappointed as you. The 128 is older than I am, it's a route that I thought would outlive me. But with the cuts we've seen to the 15, 17, 126 - among several others, I can't say I'm too surprised

 I'm very interested in how the 13(A) will be changed between Hurst Road and Bleakhouse Road, the Plough - Bristnall Hall - Moat Farm section of the route will be affected by this withdrawal. Langley - Oldbury less so with the 12.

I wonder if Joinings Bank and Causeway Green Road are about to receive a bus service to Birmingham after 15 years 
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

BBS

QuoteWell when the Government increases your biggest cost (labour) by 2% in one go without that Labour (staff) seeing a penny of it that is a massive pressure to absorb.
Isn't that effectively making the NX bus operations into a full on loss ?

Tony

Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 16, 2025, 11:38:20 AMI was just making what I thought was a valid comment, my wording probably should have better.
I was agreeing with you. The 2% NI increase is one massive handicap for businesses who make profits in single percentage points

Steve3229vp

#58
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2025, 12:28:06 PMI was agreeing with you. The 2% NI increase is one massive handicap for businesses who make profits in single percentage points
I know you was agreeing with me, it was some of the other comments

The Transport Youtuber

Quote from: CJS47 on June 16, 2025, 02:19:19 AMThe new 13 (13A) is Bleakhouse Road, then George Road, Bristnall Hall Road, Salop Road, Hurst Road, then Abbey Road.
does it cover the areas that 13 would have?

warley just looks like a maze of beautiful houses and hills...

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