Service Changes July 20th 2025

[keyy927]

The X20 isn't being changed and Stu has posted the details off the TfWM page, so wondering why you're suggesting he has the 48 incorrect

nobody said stu was incorrect hello..? the changes they posted obviously weren't complete because the spelling was horrible, the changes were taken down and things change? dunno why it seems to be a problem to you ??

[2900]

13 Birmingham to Oldbury, axed
13A Birmingham to Blackheath, to become 13 with change of route between Hurst Road and Bleakhouse Road, every 20 minutes
12 Birmingham to Dudley, every 20 minutes
12A axed

yes saw this on WB drivers newsletter, been expecting major changes for a while now regarding 12s 13s

[Stu]

yes saw this on WB drivers newsletter, been expecting major changes for a while now regarding 12s 13s

Those are certainly interesting changes, I presume there will be some other associated changes to accommodate the withdrawal of the 12A and 13.

One complaint I often hear is of overcrowding on these routes, particularly between city centre and Bearwood. I would hope that from September, then there may be additional peak-time journeys added to timetables.

[ZF B7]

Those are certainly interesting changes, I presume there will be some other associated changes to accommodate the withdrawal of the 12 and 13.

One complaint I often hear is of overcrowding on these routes, particularly between city centre and Bearwood. I would hope that from September, then there may be additional peak-time journeys added to timetables.

No need for extra boards imo. They're only overcrowded and skipping stops when singles are on, not an issue with deckers

[Steve3229vp]

No need for extra boards imo. They're only overcrowded and skipping stops when singles are on, not an issue with decker

Those are certainly interesting changes, I presume there will be some other associated changes to accommodate the withdrawal of the 12 and 13.

One complaint I often hear is of overcrowding on these routes, particularly between city centre and Bearwood. I would hope that from September, then there may be additional peak-time journeys added to timetables.

I'm hoping that when the new Electric order goes into service that more Omnilinks are withdrawn and reduce the use of single deckers on routes normally double deckers. It's better than it has been but to stop overcrowding more of these need to go

[CJS47]

No need for extra boards imo. They're only overcrowded and skipping stops when singles are on, not an issue with deckers

Looks like they are reducing the frequency between Birmingham and Bearwood from 7/8 to 10 minutes, if so extra peak journeys may be required. 

[Jack]

I'm hoping that when the new Electric order goes into service that more Omnilinks are withdrawn and reduce the use of single deckers on routes normally double deckers. It's better than it has been but to stop overcrowding more of these need to go

It's not just Omnilinks though is it? Look how many B7RLE's there are!

[2206]

It's not just Omnilinks though is it? Look how many B7RLE's there are!

To be fair I don't think those are going to be withdrawn anytime soon.

[Steve3229vp]

It's not just Omnilinks though is it? Look how many B7RLE's there are!

Very true, the Ominlinks though are older, new in 2007-2010, the B7RE's were new 2011-2013

[Jack]

Very true, the Ominlinks though are older, new in 2007-2010, the B7RE's were new 2011-2013

That doesn't excuse it, when a lot more of the Omnilinks are gone you still have the issue of too many singles! So I can't see much changing. 

You've still got the shed E200MMC's as well.

[Steve3229vp]

That doesn't excuse it, when a lot more of the Omnilinks are gone you still have the issue of too many singles! So I can't see much changing.

You've still got the shed E200MMC's as well.

There are around 100 Omnilinks left, around 150 B7RE's and around 40 E200MMC's left. That's around 290 single deckers that seat 43-45 passengers. If most of the Ominlinks go then that's a big reduction.

[don]

There are around 100 Omnilinks left, around 150 B7RE's and around 40 E200MMC's left. That's around 290 single deckers that seat 43-45 passengers. If most of the Ominlinks go then that's a big reduction.

Plus 89 E200s (including the short ones) - so about 290 single deckers would remain once all the Omnilinks have gone (there's just short of 120 currently, including the remaining ex Scottish vehicles 70xx series), plus any electric single deckers which may appear (CV). 

[The Transport Youtuber]

13 going means that anyone wanting an alternate service in warley will have to walk 10 to 15mins extra. this isnt too big of a problem for the young but what about the elderly???

12A going means that people would have to walk downhill/uphill. a minor inconvenience for the youth but a major problem for the elderly and those with poorer mobillity

going from having effectively no walking to do to walking 15mins for the same bus is a good incentive to buy a car!

[Steve3229vp]

13 going means that anyone wanting an alternate service in warley will have to walk 10 to 15mins extra. this isnt too big of a problem for the young but what about the elderly???

12A going means that people would have to walk downhill/uphill. a minor inconvenience for the youth but a major problem for the elderly and those with poorer mobillity

going from having effectively no walking to do to walking 15mins for the same bus is a good incentive to buy a car!

If you knew what finacial pressure the bus industry in under a whole then you wouldn't be making comments like this !

[PhilCollins]

If you knew what finacial pressure the bus industry in under a whole then you wouldn't be making comments like this !

Not an untrue comment to make though was it?