If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

[Rachvince53]

There are buses between Solhull and Redditch but the outward journeys operate from Redditch (Flexibus 517 & 519) and only on certain days. I can only presume their isn't sufficient passengers for a more regular service.

[Justin Tyme]

That's right.  Redditch has ties with Bromsgrove but not with Solihull.

Midland Red ran a service with around 4 journeys a day during the 1980s, but it was not successful.  The 175 provided a peak hour link, but that was initially because Hardings of Redditch operated the (Wythall - Redditch) service on tender and ran the "garage" workings in service.

[jasmine]

Route numbers that I think need alteration. Part 1.

Disclaimer: I AM NOT A ROUTE MANAGER OR HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN MAKING A TRANSPORT MAP, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THESE CHANGES FOR NOTHING MORE THAN AN ORGANIZATIONAL REASON. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME OR CRITIQUE MY SUGGESTIONS IN AN UNSAVORY MANOR. HISTORY IS NOT BEING TAKEN TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY ROUTE I MENTION HERE.
 
To start with, the X's and their counterparts.

110 -> X6 - I believe the 110 is honestly no different to the X3 X4 and X5, so why not be included with it, and X6 is also completely unused too.

8/X8 -> 18A/18 - The fact the 8 and X8 completely split apart once they hit Dudley irks me, it feels a lot more like an n and nA relationship. The 18 can keep it's limited stop characteristic along Hagley Road. It's not a problem really. 18 because 8 is already taken by the 8A/8C

X21 -> 21 - This is not an express route in the slightest.
X22  -> 22 - This is not an express route in the slightest.

51/X51 -> 31/X31 - I don't really know why these routes are disconnected from the 33/934/935/936/937/937A, lets bring some parity to it.

64/X64 -> 64A/64 - Same situation as 8/X8, it feels like an n and nA relationship moreover an n and Xn relationship, especially when the X64 doesn't miss any stops.

Now the 900's.

934/935/936/937/937A -> X34/X35/X36/X37/Withdrawn - 900 is a thing of the past, all the other 900 routes were changed when X became a thing apart from these, it's about time. Since 934 and 935 are being withdrawn anyway, these can also be omitted when it happens. I think 937A is not important enough to warrant it's own service, but I am not a rota manager so what do I know?

907/907A -> X39/39 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

997  -> X40 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

998 -> X41 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

Routes that I haven't mentioned yet that are related to the ones I have.

52 -> 32 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

60 -> 1 - It's essentially just a shortened X1/X2 with a slightly different terminus, not numbering it the 2 because we've already got a 2, so 1 it is.

Normal numbered routes.

1 -> 40 - What about this route makes it deserve such a coveted number as 1? It doesn't even serve city center.

4 (to i54) -> 154 - C'mon.

16/16A -> 16/15 - Why not?

This is all I could be bothered for for now, I'll maybe say some more when I feel like it.

[2206]

There's already an 18 in Dudley.
& X8 fits in with the 9/X10 etc on the Hagley Road.

[frostjay974]

There's already an 18 in Dudley.
& X8 fits in with the 9/X10 etc on the Hagley Road.

The 8 also fits in with the 6 and 7 In Stourbridge. 

[Westy]

Can't renumber the 51 to 31, as there's already a 31 in Walsall.

[jasmine]

There's already an 18 in Dudley.
& X8 fits in with the 9/X10 etc on the Hagley Road.

The 8 also fits in with the 6 and 7 In Stourbridge.

Can't renumber the 51 to 31, as there's already a 31 in Walsall.

All valid!

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

All valid!

934 and 935 are being withdrawn and 936 and 937 will be kept, there used to be a 154 in Wolverhampton went to Stafford the 4 takes the i54 name maybe you could renumber it 54 but it ties with the 3 route so 

[Steve3229vp]

Route numbers that I think need alteration. Part 1.

Disclaimer: I AM NOT A ROUTE MANAGER OR HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN MAKING A TRANSPORT MAP, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THESE CHANGES FOR NOTHING MORE THAN AN ORGANIZATIONAL REASON. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME OR CRITIQUE MY SUGGESTIONS IN AN UNSAVORY MANOR. HISTORY IS NOT BEING TAKEN TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY ROUTE I MENTION HERE.
 
To start with, the X's and their counterparts.

110 -> X6 - I believe the 110 is honestly no different to the X3 X4 and X5, so why not be included with it, and X6 is also completely unused too.

8/X8 -> 18A/18 - The fact the 8 and X8 completely split apart once they hit Dudley irks me, it feels a lot more like an n and nA relationship. The 18 can keep it's limited stop characteristic along Hagley Road. It's not a problem really. 18 because 8 is already taken by the 8A/8C

X21 -> 21 - This is not an express route in the slightest.
X22  -> 22 - This is not an express route in the slightest.

51/X51 -> 31/X31 - I don't really know why these routes are disconnected from the 33/934/935/936/937/937A, lets bring some parity to it.

64/X64 -> 64A/64 - Same situation as 8/X8, it feels like an n and nA relationship moreover an n and Xn relationship, especially when the X64 doesn't miss any stops.

Now the 900's.

934/935/936/937/937A -> X34/X35/X36/X37/Withdrawn - 900 is a thing of the past, all the other 900 routes were changed when X became a thing apart from these, it's about time. Since 934 and 935 are being withdrawn anyway, these can also be omitted when it happens. I think 937A is not important enough to warrant it's own service, but I am not a rota manager so what do I know?

907/907A -> X39/39 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

997  -> X40 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

998 -> X41 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

Routes that I haven't mentioned yet that are related to the ones I have.

52 -> 32 - Parity with the 934/935...etc

60 -> 1 - It's essentially just a shortened X1/X2 with a slightly different terminus, not numbering it the 2 because we've already got a 2, so 1 it is.

Normal numbered routes.

1 -> 40 - What about this route makes it deserve such a coveted number as 1? It doesn't even serve city center.

4 (to i54) -> 154 - C'mon.

16/16A -> 16/15 - Why not?

This is all I could be bothered for for now, I'll maybe say some more when I feel like it.

When the Dudley revisions were being decided it was intended to renumber the 126 to 15. But some silly idea led to the 255 and 256 becoming 15 and 16 which meant the 126 stayed with it's current number (which is now out of place).
Why couldn't the 255 and 256 be renumbered 55 and 56 ! Then the 126 could of been 15, then the Hagley Road services would have been X8, 9, X10, 12, 12A, 13, 13A and 15.

[ellspurs]

Renumber all routes to 25.

[Gareth]

You need to look into BCT history to see why routes are numbered. When a route started, it was just given the next available number. The same when trams and trolley buses were converted to buses. For example 55 and 56 started in 1950, replacing trams. The next routes for conversion were trolley buses. Receiving 57, 58, 59, 60. Then Bristol Road services receiving 61, 62, 63. Erdington Trams went next. Buses became 64, 65, 66. Over the years some have kept their original BCT numbers. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Others have been reneumbered to provide 'networks' and 'corridors'.

[satters]

You need to look into BCT history to see why routes are numbered. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Others have been reneumbered to proved 'networks' and 'corridors'.

the same is true for Midland Red numbers that have persisted, 
when the PTE took them over and renumbered services logically keeping them and BCT numbers, creating simple numbering without duplication or prefix / suffix across the region

[busfan2847]

Normal numbered routes.

1 -> 40 - What about this route makes it deserve such a coveted number as 1? It doesn't even serve city center.

It has been Route 1 since Birmingham Tramways introduced route numbers on 1st March 1916 when it was City to Moseley Village via Five Ways