Repaints and refurbishments 2023

[Tony]

But at least their able to complete a livery, NX is cutting corners and you can visually see newer electrics where they decided to not even make the roof section back anymore, and the rear was completely forgotten in the entire new batch.

I don't understand those comments about the back & rear.

[Tony]

I look at the Beenetwork Manchester that's low cost single yellow paintwork , TFL Buses same single red paintwork, its cost effective for big fleets.
But no one is saying bare basics cost cutting about them

Belfast, where the buses have never been privatised are also painted allover one colour, so it's not just about private companies cost saving
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[Steve3229vp]

I don't understand those comments about the back & rear.

I wonder if he means the lower saloon where there is no back window ?

[BBS]

I don't understand those comments about the back & rear.

I'm sure you seen the Coventry ones compared to the Birmingham ones, I'm sure the grey lines that connect the lightning bolts towards the rear are just left there, it's very easy to tell
https://www.flickr.com/photos/195470305@N04/54127295546/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/195470305@N04/54127633309/in/dateposted-public/
Huge difference, I'm not sure if it's NX, or it's the vinyl company who's missing these parts out 

[BBS]

I wonder if he means the lower saloon where there is no back window ?

Upper saloon, there the top window is, there is a powered by zenobe sticker which on the Coventry elevtrics is at the top of the rear dest, and the curved lightning connecting lights at the bottom

[Steve3229vp]

Upper saloon, there the top window is, there is a powered by zenobe sticker which on the Coventry elevtrics is at the top of the rear dest, and the curved lightning connecting lights at the bottom

Does it really matter ?

[BBS]

Does it really matter ?

It doesn't, but it does show a lacklustre in effort to make buses visually appealing to people 

[Tony]

It doesn't, but it does show a lacklustre in effort to make buses visually appealing to people

Always nice to make a bus look good to someone has just missed it pulling away.

Still not sure what your point is other than stickers are in different positions and you don't like it

[BBS]

Always nice to make a bus look good to someone has just missed it pulling away.

Still not sure what your point is other than stickers are in different positions and you don't like it

I'm not saying I don't like it? I'm just mentioning this as it's missing that's literally it? 

[2900]

I saw 6803 in Dugley earlier it perfectly acceptable, yes you can see the ghosting effect from previous branding , I'm sure advert frames will cover majority of it.
6816 6817 at WB had the complete generic branding make over which is better .

[LD713821]

It doesn't, but it does show a lacklustre in effort to make buses visually appealing to people

Buses aren't meant to be "visually appealing" they're meant to take you from Place A to B

[Stu]

Does it really matter ?

It doesn't, but it does show a lacklustre in effort to make buses visually appealing to people

Speaking purely from a passenger perspective, I really honestly don't care.

What matters to me is whether a bus turns up when it should, and I can get on it to where I need to go to.

While it would be nice if all buses could be nicely presented and in a uniform livery, what is more important is a bus in service and picking up paying passengers. And if anything, it is the interior presentation of the bus that travelling passengers notice more, rather than the outside.

[Wumpty]

It doesn't, but it does show a lacklustre in effort to make buses visually appealing to people

Or the livery evolving to minimise expensive detail, when the overall look is aesthetically pleasing - the electrics are a massive investment and upgrade, yet the only thing that happens is nit picking over small livery details.

[Tony]

Or the livery evolving to minimise expensive detail, when the overall look is aesthetically pleasing - the electrics are a massive investment and upgrade, yet the only thing that happens is nit picking over small livery details.

As the Mayor has been complaining about NX received £44m to maintain services this year not buy lots of vinyl

[Wumpty]

As the Mayor has been complaining about NX received £44m to maintain services this year not buy lots of vinyl

Tricky Dicky moans complains about peanuts in his Snickers bars! He won't be happy until he's decimated the West Midlands commercial bus sector.