If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

[Jack]

im also only suggesting this because i need the 16 to great barr as the 16 to hamstead does not pass where i get off, and this board is for fun. its just annoying to get one that goes to hamstead and then needing to walk up the rest of hamstead road because for some reason theres 4 16's that go to hamstead following eachother and 0 great barr ones.

I politely told you it wouldn't be viable.

There's 3 Great Barr 16's an hour, and if that doesn't turn up there's also the 61. The loads from Scott Arms don't justify having more buses serving it.

[jasmine]

I politely told you it wouldn't be viable.

There's 3 Great Barr 16's an hour, and if that doesn't turn up there's also the 61. The loads from Scott Arms don't justify having more buses serving it.

Viability, nor if the route generates or takes away profit is not something that should be taken into consideration when replying to this board.

[jasmine]

Viability, nor if the route generates or takes away profit is not something that should be taken into consideration when replying to this board.

Not only this but it just stops the 16 from being bloody annoying, I had to stop a woman with kids from chasing a 16 that had its rear blind off because she was shouting asking if it was a Great Barr and it wasn't. The whole problem of the 16 being a freaking gacha game since January 2023 wouldn't be a thing if it just stuck to one terminus.

It's not like I'm asking for the world here either, it's not like I'm asking for all X51's to terminate in Cannock is it? It's literally just a mile or so down the road, that's it.

If the traffic or whatever is so bad at Scott Arms the 16 should just continue on Newton Road to Queslett then like the old 46 did.

[Jack]

If the 46 was never withdrawn people here would never be inconvenienced. The 16/16A arrangement isn't the best, replacing a reliable service with 2 other services that are prone to late running isn't good. The 16A doesn't always bother turning up at West Brom because of how much traffic it gets stuck in.

[jasmine]

ok..?

[jamesX4]

Renumber X3 to X2 (many duplicated route numbers anyway)
Renumber X5 to X3
Curtail X4 to Sutton Coldfield only
This will match X route numbers with original 102/103/104

Add X5 to Falcon Lodge (existing X4) reduced to 2bph
Add X6 to Mere Green or Hillhook via Good Hope/Whitehouse Common/Roughly terminus to give customers on Rectory Rd/Whitehouse Common access to Mere Green shops and give customers of Hillhook/Mere Green/Roughley access to Good Hope Hospital

[Rachvince53]

And passengers wishing to travel to Lichfield who can't or don't want to use the train are supposed to do what?

[jamesX4]

And passengers wishing to travel to Lichfield who can't or don't want to use the train are supposed to do what?

Continue to use the X3 or renumbered X2

[jasmine]

Renumber X3 to X2 (many duplicated route numbers anyway)
Renumber X5 to X3
Curtail X4 to Sutton Coldfield only
This will match X route numbers with original 102/103/104

Add X5 to Falcon Lodge (existing X4) reduced to 2bph
Add X6 to Mere Green or Hillhook via Good Hope/Whitehouse Common/Roughly terminus to give customers on Rectory Rd/Whitehouse Common access to Mere Green shops and give customers of Hillhook/Mere Green/Roughley access to Good Hope Hospital

Many duplicated numbers but none of them go to the same place lol

[jamesX4]

Many duplicated numbers but none of them go to the same place lol

There used to be a NX 115 Sutton Coldfield to Birmingham and an Arriva 115 Tamworth to Birmingham.  Both terminating on Upper Bull Street.  A picture of both was posted on here some years ago.

[ghy2035]

Renumber X3 to X2 (many duplicated route numbers anyway)
Renumber X5 to X3
Curtail X4 to Sutton Coldfield only
This will match X route numbers with original 102/103/104

Add X5 to Falcon Lodge (existing X4) reduced to 2bph
Add X6 to Mere Green or Hillhook via Good Hope/Whitehouse Common/Roughly terminus to give customers on Rectory Rd/Whitehouse Common access to Mere Green shops and give customers of Hillhook/Mere Green/Roughley access to Good Hope Hospital

Whitehouse Common, Rectory Road and Good Hope customers already have access to Mere Green through the 78A service vice versa. 

[jamesX4]

Whitehouse Common, Rectory Road and Good Hope customers already have access to Mere Green through the 78A service vice versa.

Yes, just 4 services a day. Falcon Lodge has the X14, so does that infer that the X4 should be cut back to Sutton.

[2206]

Yes, just 4 services a day. Falcon Lodge has the X14, so does that infer that the X4 should be cut back to Sutton.

They take different routes for a start. 
X14 Rectory Road, X4 Reddicap Heath.

[Stu]

Renumber X3 to X2 (many duplicated route numbers anyway)
Renumber X5 to X3
Curtail X4 to Sutton Coldfield only
This will match X route numbers with original 102/103/104

Add X5 to Falcon Lodge (existing X4) reduced to 2bph
Add X6 to Mere Green or Hillhook via Good Hope/Whitehouse Common/Roughly terminus to give customers on Rectory Rd/Whitehouse Common access to Mere Green shops and give customers of Hillhook/Mere Green/Roughley access to Good Hope Hospital

Sorry but that just sounds like pointless renumbering to me, and probably would confuse a fair few people!

For consistency with the Sutton Lines services, Arriva's 110 service could be renumbered as X6 though - it's interesting how TfWM have left both X6 and X11 free!

[jasmine]

There used to be a NX 115 Sutton Coldfield to Birmingham and an Arriva 115 Tamworth to Birmingham.  Both terminating on Upper Bull Street.  A picture of both was posted on here some years ago.

different operators.