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Started by MW, May 29, 2012, 09:25:09 PM

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Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 26, 2023, 09:19:19 PMWarwickshires school routes will probably be awarded to stagecoach or another Warwickshire based company
Looks like Ridleys may partially replace them. They seem to also have new Warwickshire closed door school services starting RID 12 and RID 13. In addition to what they already operate. 
Timetables – Ridleys Coaches

Diamond Buses also running the 502 Kings Heath to Alcester.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/bus-services/ww/ww-502-alcester-sch/
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Justin Tyme

Quote from: 2206 on August 30, 2023, 01:30:44 AMLooks like Ridleys may partially replace them. They seem to also have new Warwickshire closed door school services starting RID 12 and RID 13. In addition to what they already operate. 
Timetables – Ridleys Coaches

Diamond Buses also running the 502 Kings Heath to Alcester.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/bus-services/ww/ww-502-alcester-sch/

Yes, Ridleys have taken on some work, and looking at their Facebook page they have had a manic week (and Bank Holiday weekend) dealing with it all.

Diamond have also extended a 247A Alcester schools journey to start from Alvechurch.

Well done to both operators for stepping in a short notice.

igogeneral

Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 02, 2023, 09:21:55 PMYes, Ridleys have taken on some work, and looking at their Facebook page they have had a manic week (and Bank Holiday weekend) dealing with it all.

Diamond have also extended a 247A Alcester schools journey to start from Alvechurch.

Well done to both operators for stepping in a short notice.
If Green Bus could not make them pay how will Ridley's and Diamond ?

j789

Quote from: igogeneral on September 02, 2023, 09:53:39 PMIf Green Bus could not make them pay how will Ridley's and Diamond ?
Possibly combining the route journeys with other operations so to minimise wastage. Like with the 247. Green Bus must have suffered a lot of dead milage not having other routes the vehicles could run on during the day. Maybe these companies will be better placed to minimise these additional costs.

Solo1

I think green bus used to park up in alcester or somewhere by there as cheaper to park up than run back to depot unless they also done private hire for schools there 

Rachvince53

Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 02, 2023, 09:21:55 PMYes, Ridleys have taken on some work, and looking at their Facebook page they have had a manic week (and Bank Holiday weekend) dealing with it all.

Diamond have also extended a 247A Alcester schools journey to start from Alvechurch.

Well done to both operators for stepping in a short notice.
Diamond will also start operating the 502 Kings Heath - Alcester Schools.

B61 ANDREW

Quote from: Solo1 on September 03, 2023, 08:56:43 AMI think green bus used to park up in alcester or somewhere by there as cheaper to park up than run back to depot unless they also done private hire for schools there
Yes , in the car park of Alcester Rugby Club along side the main A435 , as many as eight d/d's if my memory is correct. 

IMarkeh

Quote from: igogeneral on September 02, 2023, 09:53:39 PMIf Green Bus could not make them pay how will Ridley's and Diamond ?
Green Bus stated their routes were unviable due to the insurance premiums going up. Everyones insurance will cost different so even if everyone had the exact same costs for drivers wage, general operations etc, the insurance cost could be what sways things.

What I don't understand though is why aren't the schools and councils trying to put more kids onto the local bus network. Would save everyone significant sums of money.

Wumpty

Quote from: IMarkeh on September 04, 2023, 08:42:46 PMWhat I don't understand though is why aren't the schools and councils trying to put more kids onto the local bus network. Would save everyone significant sums of money.
Whilst operators are prepared to provide tailored and direct bus travel at little expense to the local authority, as Green Bus did on a commercial basis, then there's no need to. Local authority had little/no outlay, piggyback off operator's marketing and take the credit for a "partnership" that looks good to the tax paying public.
Autofare 3 - the ticket that laughs in the face of contactless!

woody38

What I don't understand is street will bail out NXWM but he won't help green bus, double standards or what

Tony

Quote from: woody38 on September 05, 2023, 07:22:19 AMWhat I don't understand is street will bail out NXWM but he won't help green bus, double standards or what
Totally different, Green Bus are quite happy just running Birmingham Busworks, and didn't ask for money to keep running their services 

Wumpty

Quote from: woody38 on September 05, 2023, 07:22:19 AMWhat I don't understand is street will bail out NXWM but he won't help green bus, double standards or what
How exactly did Andy Street bail out NXWM @woody38 ?

As @Tony has eluded, NXWM (or any large bus company) provide the backbone of the region's bus operation, majority of it commercially. The Green Bus business model was effectively as near to 'door to door' school transport on commercially operated, tailored routes plotted from the passenger base that predominantly bought their travel passes.

What *I* don't understand is why some folk are getting themselves all worked up over a commercial business decision made by a private company, to close a business down. It happens everyday all over the world. What Green Bus attempted to do (after exhausting all other possibilities), was to arrange alternative cover out of courtesy. Nowt more. 
Autofare 3 - the ticket that laughs in the face of contactless!

bususer28

Parents of students affected at the Birmingham King Edward schools (Camp Hill, Five Ways etc.) have received information suggesting that Endeavour coaches are looking at running services to replace the withdrawn Green Bus services. They are currently looking at the commercial viability of such routes so this is certainly something to look out for. 

DMCL

This morning the former Green Bus 501 service to Alcester Schools was operated by Royal Motorways using their longest, and presumably highest capacity, coach SW09 UMD. This vehicle is a 15m Volvo B12BT with Plaxton Panther bodywork and was new in 2009 to Trathens, Plymouth as KSK 949.

2206

Quote from: bususer28 on September 06, 2023, 02:09:31 PMParents of students affected at the Birmingham King Edward schools (Camp Hill, Five Ways etc.) have received information suggesting that Endeavour coaches are looking at running services to replace the withdrawn Green Bus services. They are currently looking at the commercial viability of such routes so this is certainly something to look out for.
Would be surprised if anything replaces the 871. 35, 11a/c and 76 seem to good enough job servicing it and the term started today to.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

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