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Title: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Ginger66 on May 21, 2022, 10:42:34 AM
While shopping this morning in West Bromwich noted a couple of Stagecoach buses had strayed into the region seem that Stagecoach is sending down/up buses as part of the Commonwealth Games fleet.   Could not see any fleet numbers other than the brand logo for stagecoach.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Westy on May 21, 2022, 11:01:49 AM
Don't they normally have to have any fleetnames etc removed for this sort of thing?

Sure I remember on here NX vehicles that were sent up to Glasgow for their games had to be debranded, or were they vehicles not yet in normal service?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Ginger66 on May 21, 2022, 11:04:54 AM
They are doing a test runs ahead of the games so it's likely drivers getting use to the routes.   
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Ginger66 on May 21, 2022, 11:10:43 AM
Even if the company names are removed, if you know the branding you can tell which operator it is.  
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Stu on May 21, 2022, 11:45:42 AM
Its been mentioned already in a couple of other topics that Stagecoach will be running shuttle services during the games, and buses will be based at a 'temporary' depot in Oldbury.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Westy on May 21, 2022, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 21, 2022, 11:45:42 AMIts been mentioned already in a couple of other topics that Stagecoach will be running shuttle services during the games, and buses will be based at a 'temporary' depot in Oldbury.
Someone said it was ex Cadbury premises, didn't they?

Must admit I've been racking my brains to try & remember if I ever dealt with that depot at some point in my old job, as I only remember dealing with Bournville & Minworth!
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on May 21, 2022, 12:17:40 PM
None have had their fleet names or numbers removed,  the only thing they have had done is an 'on hire to Midland Red (South) sticker on the nearside front window 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 2206 on May 21, 2022, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2022, 11:01:49 AMor were they vehicles not yet in normal service?
At the time 4940 - 4959 hadn't entered service yet and were brand new.
4940 - 4949 went to Birmingham Central and 4950 - 4959 to West Bromwich where they remain to this day.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Gareth on May 21, 2022, 05:16:46 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2022, 11:01:49 AMDon't they normally have to have any fleetnames etc removed for this sort of thing?

Sure I remember on here NX vehicles that were sent up to Glasgow for their games had to be debranded, or were they vehicles not yet in normal service?
Everything had to be debranded for the London 2012 games fleet as the Olympics are very different to Commonwelth Games when it comes to what can and can't be seen, however the Glasgow 2014 Games fleet had vehicles with operators names. The NXWM vehicles carried very smart National Express (without the West Midlands) fleetnames.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on May 21, 2022, 05:22:45 PM
Nothing removed from livery
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: bususer28 on May 21, 2022, 10:04:52 PM
Went to the event today so took advantage of the shuttle and the organisation was just superb.
I'm not one for going to other cities to travel on buses but it was very apparent to me in both directions that the ceilings on the upper deck were quite a bit lower than on NX, is that just my impression or are they genuinely slighter lower and if so, how come?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: SK68MEV on May 22, 2022, 01:56:52 AM
most li
Quote from: bususer28 on May 21, 2022, 10:04:52 PMWent to the event today so took advantage of the shuttle and the organisation was just superb.
I'm not one for going to other cities to travel on buses but it was very apparent to me in both directions that the ceilings on the upper deck were quite a bit lower than on NX, is that just my impression or are they genuinely slighter lower and if so, how come? 
most likely so they can fit under low bridges
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Jack6101 on May 22, 2022, 09:12:18 AM
Quote from: bususer28 on May 21, 2022, 10:04:52 PMWent to the event today so took advantage of the shuttle and the organisation was just superb.
I'm not one for going to other cities to travel on buses but it was very apparent to me in both directions that the ceilings on the upper deck were quite a bit lower than on NX, is that just my impression or are they genuinely slighter lower and if so, how come?
I believe stagecoach buses height is slightly lower then our ones it's there spec I belive like how to arriva 110s E400's are lower in height  
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 2900 on July 02, 2022, 11:22:17 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2022, 12:11:11 PMSomeone said it was ex Cadbury premises, didn't they?

Must admit I've been racking my brains to try & remember if I ever dealt with that depot at some point in my old job, as I only remember dealing with Bournville & Minworth!
it was just warehouse for Cadbury during the 80s/90s , i noticed that stagecoach have put there banners up on the Oldbury depot, The site was used for truck rental/sales etc up on till recently.
i wonder if the site could be a potential replacement for Westbrom garage in the future, as i am told westbrom  not suitable for electric buses, some thing to do with electrical demand load being to great etc etc 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Ginger66 on July 02, 2022, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: 2900 on July 02, 2022, 11:22:17 AMit was just warehouse for Cadbury during the 80s/90s , i noticed that stagecoach have put there banners up on the Oldbury depot, The site was used for truck rental/sales etc up on till recently.
i wonder if the site could be a potential replacement for Westbrom garage in the future, as i am told westbrom  not suitable for electric buses, some thing to do with electrical demand load being to great etc etc
How many buses does the temp depot at Oldbury hold for stagecoach.     
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Westy on July 03, 2022, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: 2900 on July 02, 2022, 11:22:17 AMit was just warehouse for Cadbury during the 80s/90s , i noticed that stagecoach have put there banners up on the Oldbury depot, The site was used for truck rental/sales etc up on till recently.
i wonder if the site could be a potential replacement for Westbrom garage in the future, as i am told westbrom  not suitable for electric buses, some thing to do with electrical demand load being to great etc etc
West Bromwich is in a residential area, from what I remember.

I suppose that might have something to do with it?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 03, 2022, 02:39:46 PMWest Bromwich is in a residential area, from what I remember.

I suppose that might have something to do with it?
Don't cv come under being in a residential area they don't seem to have any problems
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Westy on July 03, 2022, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 02:44:23 PMDon't cv come under being in a residential area they don't seem to have any problems
Isn't Coventry a newer depot than West Brom, dating from 1986, while West Brom is pre 1969, as it held West Brom Council vehicles as well as their own buses?

I'm no expert, but unless there was a massive electrical project since 1970 in the West Brom area, I suspect their electrical loads are not as good as a mid 80's build?

I obviously bow to other people's superior knowledge of electrics.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: markcf83 on July 03, 2022, 06:26:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 03, 2022, 02:52:39 PMIsn't Coventry a newer depot than West Brom, dating from 1986?
It replaced Sandy Lane and Harnall Lane East from memory in around the time stated. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: windy miller on July 07, 2022, 01:12:56 AM
 erm ..are any of the wm hdrogen fleet likely to be on 'showcase' during
  the games period?.... or are they likely to be 'mothballed' for the for....seeable future?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 07, 2022, 06:33:39 AM
Quoteerm ..are any of the wm hdrogen fleet likely to be on 'showcase' during
  the games period?.... or are they likely to be 'mothballed' for the for....seeable future?
They've been in service for the last 4 days
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 14, 2022, 12:04:05 AM
A posting on a group on FB hints at some First Kernow vehicles expected to make the trip up to the Midlands for the Commonwealth Games (E400MMC's) so not just Stagecoach if that is the case (I recall First also supplied vehicles to the Glasgow games a few years back).....also I believe some Stagecoach vehicles have already arrived in readiness. I'm likely to head down to the West Mids once or twice to catch some of the workings on camera so if anyone is able to give ideas of good photting locations, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Solo1 on July 14, 2022, 08:50:00 AM
When they had games at Alexander stadium a little while back  buses ran from by the law courts James watt Queensway then straight under the underpass 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 14, 2022, 07:33:56 PM
Expect Stagecoach Merseyside E400MMC's 10815, 10816, 10817, 10818, 10821, 10822, 10823, 10842, 11103, 11104 & 11105 to make the trip to Birmingham in the next few days, all are at Rock Ferry depot before heading south, all are without any adverts.

HTH 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 14, 2022, 07:35:11 PM
10811 is already here, out doing route learning tody
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 4679 on July 15, 2022, 12:39:40 PM
There's at least 7 Stagecoach MMCs sat at Lymm services in there way south 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2022, 03:06:20 PM
I've been sent a fleet list (which I can not publish publicly) but a total of 598 Stagecoach vehicles are expected
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: stephen ford on July 17, 2022, 04:12:20 PM
Hi tony is there any chance of having a list of vehicles attending? Many thanks
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Stu on July 17, 2022, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: stephen ford on July 17, 2022, 04:12:20 PMHi tony is there any chance of having a list of vehicles attending? Many thanks

Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2022, 03:06:20 PMI've been sent a fleet list (which I can not publish publicly) but a total of 598 Stagecoach vehicles are expected
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: ellspurs on July 17, 2022, 04:44:11 PM
I hope that all of these vehicles are Euro6 compliant. I'm half surprised Birmingham CC didn't specify for electric/hydrogen vehicles to be used.

(I know there wouldn't be enough availability of vehicles, or infrastructure, but it is BCC we are talking about).
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2022, 04:57:39 PM
QuoteI hope that all of these vehicles are Euro6 compliant. I'm half surprised Birmingham CC didn't specify for electric/hydrogen vehicles to be used.

(I know there wouldn't be enough availability of vehicles, or infrastructure, but it is BCC we are talking about).
Yes, nearly all E200MMC, E400MMC, a few older vehicles, but all Euro 6
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: John on July 17, 2022, 04:59:01 PM
Passed 3 Stagecoach Merseyside E400MMCs heading south on the M6 at Stafford earlier this afternoon
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: MW on July 17, 2022, 06:56:16 PM
https://www.driverhire.co.uk/job/commonwealth-games-2022-athlete-shuttle-driver/

Plenty of driving roles too.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: mesub on July 17, 2022, 07:59:40 PM
Oh yeah I saw quite a few stagecoach E400MMCs doing some sort of route learning around the airport yesterday.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Gareth on July 17, 2022, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: mesub on July 17, 2022, 07:59:40 PMOh yeah I saw quite a few stagecoach E400MMCs doing some sort of route learning around the airport yesterday.
Don't know what they're learning around there for. There are no shuttles to or from the NEC. Unless there's a back up plan in place for the games on the ASLEF strike day.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: ellspurs on July 17, 2022, 11:01:35 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-62167380

They mention 60,000 park and ride spaces. The largest car park in the area is at the NEC/Airport, right?

Also, nice quote from Travel West Midlands also.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 17, 2022, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2022, 03:06:20 PMI've been sent a fleet list (which I can not publish publicly) but a total of 598 Stagecoach vehicles are expected
Good grief....that sounds like more than the amount for the 2012 Olympics!. I know you say you can't publish the list which is fair enough (I'm sure a list will appear soon anyway....), but are vehicles expected from all Stagecoach areas???

Thanks!
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: the trainbasher on July 17, 2022, 11:46:26 PM
A West Coast Motors coach has been spotted in Rugby depot apparently for the Games
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10159976425229803&set=gm.5766106560074173
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 20, 2022, 11:33:03 AM
Running list of Stagecoach vehicles that are known to have made the trip to Birmingham (from various pics/reports on various groups).

10490, 10497, 10500, 10502, 10503, 10656, 10662, 10689, 10690, 10691, 10693, 10694, 10697, 10739, 10740, 10748, 10810, 10811, 10815, 10816, 10817, 10818, 10821, 10822, 10823, 10837, 10842, 10843, 11103, 11104, 11105, 11109, 11118, 11125, 11193

26094, 26096, 26239, 26241, 26260, 26277, 26285, 26309

obviously an huge amount more yet to be reported......

HTH
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: ellspurs on July 21, 2022, 05:53:31 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-62242723

This report states that any ticket holders are going to be able to use the whole public transport network for free. I wonder how they are going to be doing the logistics behind that.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Gareth on July 21, 2022, 07:57:40 AM
Quote from: ellspurs on July 21, 2022, 05:53:31 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-62242723

This report states that any ticket holders are going to be able to use the whole public transport network for free. I wonder how they are going to be doing the logistics behind that.
Tickets holders and all staff, volunteers and contractors also get free travel with their accreditation passes. They can be shown to drivers, guards and gate staff. Remember there will be 400+ shuttle buses taking most of the strain. My worry is where I work at the NEC. My commute each day could be interesting to say the least!
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 21, 2022, 11:01:37 AM
More to add to the list from pics/reports elsewhere (over 50 from Stagecoach East Scotland alone)

10745, 10747, 11124, 11176, 11177, 11178, 11179, 11180, 11181, 11182, 11184, 11185, 11186, 11187, 11188, 11189, 11191, 11192, 11198, 11200, 11560, 11561, 11562, 11563, 11564, 11565

13041, 13042, 13043, 13047, 13048, 13049, 13050, 13051, 13052, 13053, 13054, 13055, 13056, 13058, 13111, 13112
13114, 13116, 13117

15660

19667, 19669, 19895, 19898, 19899 (19667/9 also used at the 2012 Olympics as well)

26006, 26009, 26011, 26014, 26015, 26322, 26349, 26350, 26351, 26352, 26353

Also, one E400MMC in the new livery had a nasty accident on the M6 in Staffordshire a couple of days ago...from news reports, thankfully no one seriously hurt....

HTH
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 21, 2022, 11:17:42 AM
QuoteMore to add to the list from pics/reports elsewhere (over 50 from Stagecoach East Scotland alone)

10745, 10747, 11124, 11176, 11177, 11178, 11179, 11180, 11181, 11182, 11184, 11185, 11186, 11187, 11188, 11189, 11191, 11192, 11198, 11200, 11560, 11561, 11562, 11563, 11564, 11565

13041, 13042, 13043, 13047, 13048, 13049, 13050, 13051, 13052, 13053, 13054, 13055, 13056, 13058, 13111, 13112
13114, 13116, 13117

15660

19667, 19669, 19895, 19898, 19899 (19667/9 also used at the 2012 Olympics as well)

26006, 26009, 26011, 26014, 26015, 26322, 26349, 26350, 26351, 26352, 26353

Also, one E400MMC in the new livery had a nasty accident on the M6 in Staffordshire a couple of days ago...from news reports, thankfully no one seriously hurt....

HTH
Somebody was seriously hurt in the M6 incident as the Air Ambulance had to attend. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 21, 2022, 02:04:43 PM
Text from the article (can't post the link as CleanTalk blocks it as spam), obviously the press can be wrong of course....

"A truck and coach reportedly left the carriageway following a collision on the M6. Police, firefighters and paramedics - including the air ambulance - were called out to the southbound carriageway through Stoke-on-Trent at 11.50am yesterday.
But despite the crash there were no serious injuries. One witness said the vehicles ended up off the carriageway.
Writing on StokeonTrentLive's Facebook page, she said: "Hope the coach driver was okay. Both ended up down the embankment of our farm. Air ambulance landed in our field."
READ: Six weeks of roadworks on Smallthorne roundabouts
West Midlands Ambulance Service sent an ambulance, a paramedic officer, a doctor and the air ambulance - with two paramedics on board - to the scene.
A spokeswoman said: "Crews arrived to find both drivers out of their vehicles and on the hard shoulder. Following assessment by ambulance staff, both were found with minor injuries. The HGV driver declined further hospital treatment and was discharged at the scene. The bus driver was conveyed by land ambulance to the Royal Stoke University Hospital for further checks."

Staffordshire Fire and Rescue Service sent crews from KidsgroveNewcastle and Sandyford to the scene - and found nobody was trapped. All three lanes of the southbound carriageway - between Junctions 15 and 16 - were shut off at around 12.10pm.
As reported by StokeonTrentLive at the time lanes gradually reopened in the following hours - with long delays through the area."

HTH
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: mesub on July 21, 2022, 07:23:25 PM
Quotehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-62242723

This report states that any ticket holders are going to be able to use the whole public transport network for free. I wonder how they are going to be doing the logistics behind that.


I mean NXWM buses already have a purple CWG 2022 pass button on their ticket machines...
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 25, 2022, 07:23:16 PM
New Perry Barr Garage site is currently being used to park more buses for the Commonwealth Games. So far I've seen stuff from Go Ahead London, Reading Buses, Newbury & District, Stephensons and Newport Buses. First Kernow and People's Bus are parked at The Green Bus Miller Street site too.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: BN on July 25, 2022, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 25, 2022, 07:23:16 PMNew Perry Barr Garage site is currently being used to park more buses for the Commonwealth Games. So far I've seen stuff from Go Ahead London, Reading Buses, Newbury & District, Stephensons and Newport Buses. First Kernow and People's Bus are parked at The Green Bus Miller Street site too.
We will find out Tomorrow,  depot tour organised 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 25, 2022, 11:17:54 PM
More to add from Flickr should anyone be keeping a list of what's in use so far....

10660, 10728, 10803, 10806, 10807, 10824, 10834, 10872, 10908, 10911, 10926, 10930, 11121, 11147, 11221, 11223, 15343, 15708, 26010

Most seem to have been taken around the Aston University area (Jennens Road, James Watt Queensway and Moor Street Queensway, also have seen pics taken on Woodcock Street). Also seems Edgbaston Park Road and outside Birmingham International station are other decent locations.

I'm heading down tomorrow for several hours so hopefully plenty more to report....suspect the numbers will go up considerably more once the games start proper....

HTH
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: ellspurs on July 26, 2022, 02:25:15 AM
Quote from: gka472l on July 25, 2022, 11:17:54 PMMore to add from Flickr should anyone be keeping a list of what's in use so far....

10660, 10728, 10803, 10806, 10807, 10824, 10834, 10872, 10908, 10911, 10926, 10930, 11121, 11147, 11221, 11223, 15343, 15708, 26010

Most seem to have been taken around the Aston University area (Jennens Road, James Watt Queensway and Moor Street Queensway, also have seen pics taken on Woodcock Street). Also seems Edgbaston Park Road and outside Birmingham International station are other decent locations.

I'm heading down tomorrow for several hours so hopefully plenty more to report....suspect the numbers will go up considerably more once the games start proper....

HTH
10926 was part of the convoy containing 10925 and 10929 that came south down the M6 on Sunday. I overtook them at J16, as 10925 nearly pulled out on me getting out of the slip road for the A500. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 27, 2022, 12:22:27 AM
More vehicles to add to the list from my visit today, all either photted or seen by myself in Birmingham....

10406, 10411, 10425, 10488, 10491, 10530, 10588, 10627, 10709, 10779, 10786, 10791, 10796, 10836, 10889, 10893, 11113, 11148, 11149, 11229, 11230, 11256, 11261, 11265, 11266, 11271, 11289, 11291, 11293, 11527, 11533, 11534, 11541, 15358, 26007, 26102, 26127, 26130, 26142, 26255, 26287, 37161, 44001, 44016, 54293, 59225, 59226

Also First Kernow 33473 & 33316 sighted on Queensway this afternoon.

HTH
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Gareth on July 27, 2022, 08:49:00 AM
Incredible sight yesterday afternoon with buses parked nose to tail all the way from Masshouse down Jennens Road and Nechells Parway down as far as Bloomsbury Library. Must have been at least 50 of them. All in readiness for last nights rehearsal at Alexander Stadium.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: gka472l on July 27, 2022, 07:30:44 PM
Steven Knight Media has a list of what I assume is most of the Stagecoach fleet in Birmingham at the current time (481 vehicles), it's updated regularly https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=http://stevenknightmedia.co.uk/onewebmedia/CWG%2520Fleet%2520%2520Version%25203%2520%2520%2520%2520C1857%253A03%2520%252027_07_2022.pdf&_r=3

HTH
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2022, 07:55:30 PM
QuoteSteven Knight Media has a list of what I assume is most of the Stagecoach fleet in Birmingham at the current time (481 vehicles), it's updated regularly https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=http://stevenknightmedia.co.uk/onewebmedia/CWG%2520Fleet%2520%2520Version%25203%2520%2520%2520%2520C1857%253A03%2520%252027_07_2022.pdf&_r=3

HTH
There's at least another 100 vehicles here on top of those
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2022, 08:01:10 PM
Newport 403 is here in Jubilee livery
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: B61 ANDREW on July 31, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
 Only one bus [S28MBC] but also 10 coaches from the fleets of Berry - Taunton , Chalkwell - Sittingbourne and Acklam - Beverley all on Park and Ride from Bromsgrove Railway Station car park earlier today. I was told they were shuttling to and from the hockey games. The bus was new to Reading Transport as YN08HYM. And looking at my notes again ,it appears that was of the "Berrys" coaches was on hire to them from Roselyn - Par. Hope this is of interest. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: MW on July 31, 2022, 05:47:25 PM
A Go Ahead E400MMC (looked like it may have been a B5LH), on the Monkspath shuttles with its rear number plate hanging off the rear bumper.

Another one of theirs appeared to be having some technical issues on Lode Lane yesterday evening.

Their fleet looks very battle worn too.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: markcf83 on July 31, 2022, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: MW on July 31, 2022, 05:47:25 PMA Go Ahead E400MMC (looked like it may have been a B5LH), on the Monkspath shuttles with its rear number plate hanging off the rear bumper.

Another one of theirs appeared to be having some technical issues on Lode Lane yesterday evening.

Their fleet looks very battle worn too.
Due to be refurbished for the 91 and N91 in February. They were previously used on the 135 until May. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Sandy Lane on August 02, 2022, 07:17:52 AM
Wasnt sure if this is for this thread or bus accidents thread?
Bus damaged in Coventry late pm 31 July and seems to be a commonwealth games service? Apparently loads of ambulances turned up.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/several-injured-bus-three-cars-24634985
Anyone have the bus details?

Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: BBS on August 02, 2022, 10:31:00 PM
QuoteA Go Ahead E400MMC (looked like it may have been a B5LH), on the Monkspath shuttles with its rear number plate hanging off the rear bumper.

Another one of theirs appeared to be having some technical issues on Lode Lane yesterday evening.

Their fleet looks very battle worn too.
I've seen 2 of those on small heath highway on Sunday 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: mikestone on August 03, 2022, 10:38:22 PM
Apologies if I've missed it being mentioned but all the buses on the Stafford Tenterbanks - Cannock Chase shuttle today had MR(S) discs and legal lettering.
Not sure quite what was going on but one noted disappearing down Doxey Road and another passing the front of the station with passengers still on and turning into the other part of Tenterbanks.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: the trainbasher on August 03, 2022, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: mikestone on August 03, 2022, 10:38:22 PMApologies if I've missed it being mentioned but all the buses on the Stafford Tenterbanks - Cannock Chase shuttle today had MR(S) discs and legal lettering.
Not sure quite what was going on but one noted disappearing down Doxey Road and another passing the front of the station with passengers still on and turning into the other part of Tenterbanks.
Yeah, all of the CG Buses stagecoach are running have been licenced to Midland Red (South)
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: markcf83 on August 03, 2022, 11:16:05 PM
Quote from: mikestone on August 03, 2022, 10:38:22 PMApologies if I've missed it being mentioned but all the buses on the Stafford Tenterbanks - Cannock Chase shuttle today had MR(S) discs and legal lettering.
Not sure quite what was going on but one noted disappearing down Doxey Road and another passing the front of the station with passengers still on and turning into the other part of Tenterbanks.
They're hired to Midland Red South for the duration of the Games. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on August 04, 2022, 07:45:46 AM
QuoteApologies if I've missed it being mentioned but all the buses on the Stafford Tenterbanks - Cannock Chase shuttle today had MR(S) discs and legal lettering.
Not sure quite what was going on but one noted disappearing down Doxey Road and another passing the front of the station with passengers still on and turning into the other part of Tenterbanks.
All the vehicles are Midland Red (South) as they are the company with the West Midlands TA operators licence. I have so far photographed 395, around 200 more to see if I can get before they go home
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 2900 on August 05, 2022, 12:16:04 PM
i have been driving on the 12 service route Brum to Dudley all this week never seen loads like it in my 25 years to Queens head Londonderry , Many are CWG spectators heading to Sandwell Aquatics Centre, i am looking at the Stagecoach shuttle buses from Brum running basically empty. IS there a lack of knowledge/awareness  etc, i heard one rumour that stagecoach drivers are telling folks to use service buses, i doubt it myself though. I had to leave regulars behind on broad st, hagley rd etc which i thought most unfair as they are the bread and butter for the company.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Stu on August 05, 2022, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: 2900 on August 05, 2022, 12:16:04 PMi have been driving on the 12 service route Brum to Dudley all this week never seen loads like it in my 25 years to Queens head Londonderry , Many are CWG spectators heading to Sandwell Aquatics Centre, i am looking at the Stagecoach shuttle buses from Brum running basically empty. IS there a lack of knowledge/awareness  etc, i heard one rumour that stagecoach drivers are telling folks to use service buses, i doubt it myself though. I had to leave regulars behind on broad st, hagley rd etc which i thought most unfair as they are the bread and butter for the company.
For the Aquatics Centre, I think the problem is that the free shuttle buses only run to and from The Hawthorns. So in order to make use of the shuttle buses, one has to travel first to The Hawthorns station.

If I use the journey planner on the B2022 website, it tells me to get a bus into Birmingham, get the train from Moor Street to The Hawthorns, and then get a shuttle bus.

But for people using regular journey planners (such as on the TfWM website or Google Maps), they will just be directed onto public bus services such as the 12.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: karl724223 on August 05, 2022, 10:11:56 PM
Aquatics centre buses are running down Hagley road to wolves road then going down the 126 route  we to are getting asked by a lot of people for service buses to the aquatics centre with them saying the shuttle buses have not turned up
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 2900 on August 06, 2022, 08:14:56 AM
Quote from: karl724223 on August 05, 2022, 10:11:56 PMAquatics centre buses are running down Hagley road to wolves road then going down the 126 route  we to are getting asked by a lot of people for service buses to the aquatics centre with them saying the shuttle buses have not turned up
yes that,s what i have seen the route stagecoach shuttle buses take, come end of the days events its a nightmare around queens head, the 12 is only buses an hour, 89 1 bus an hour.
David Bradford has said stagecoach handling of the shuttle buses contract has not been great, that part from his weekly brief to staff. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Westy on August 06, 2022, 10:46:20 AM
Were the bidders allowed to make their suggestions regarding the specs of the contract or not?

Would've been interesting to see NX's suggestion, if they put in for it in the first place?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 2206 on August 06, 2022, 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 06, 2022, 10:46:20 AMWould've been interesting to see NX's suggestion, if they put in for it in the first place?
Would they have enough euro 6 vehicles in the first place, as well as having enough for their own normal service requirements (NX have also be duplicating some services I think).
Think stagecoach have sourced those MMC's from a larger fleet across england and scotland..
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: mesub on August 06, 2022, 07:06:05 PM
QuoteWould they have enough euro 6 vehicles in the first place, as well as having enough for their own normal service requirements (NX have also be duplicating some services I think).
Think stagecoach have sourced those MMC's from a larger fleet across england and scotland..

I'm sure NX would have seriously considered it, but overall decided against running shuttles for the reason you've said.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on August 06, 2022, 07:32:39 PM
QuoteI'm sure NX would have seriously considered it, but overall decided against running shuttles for the reason you've said.
Stagecoach won the service via a bidding process. NX like other operators bid. It has nothing to do with them deciding not to run them. In the end it was probably good not to win them with the current nationwide driver shortage. Stagecoach are getting a lot of bad press around the country 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: don on August 06, 2022, 11:44:01 PM
I've noticed from the videos available on You Tube several curiosities - a number of Cambridge (there are various sites with separately liveried vehicles) Park and Ride vehicles are in use - makes you wonder how the Cambridge p and r is operating? Presumably vehicles from elsewhere or reduced frequency?

It is surprising holiday area buses like Thanet Loop and the Eastbourne - Hastings (Wave) can be spared - at the height of the school holiday staycation and day trip season?

The buses all seem to have had Midland Red South legal lettering applied on a patch along with Bham 2022 patches over the Stagecoach names - quite an undertaking to prep them all and with programmed blinds? They all look to be in v good condition, panelling and paint work wise, from the videos.

Curious to see the odd one v obviously lost - a Stagecoach E400MMC driving down the tram tracks at the bottom of Corporation St (towards the New St station entrances.....)
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: the trainbasher on August 07, 2022, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: don on August 06, 2022, 11:44:01 PMI've noticed from the videos available on You Tube several curiosities - a number of Cambridge (there are various sites with separately liveried vehicles) Park and Ride vehicles are in use - makes you wonder how the Cambridge p and r is operating? Presumably vehicles from elsewhere or reduced frequency?

It is surprising holiday area buses like Thanet Loop and the Eastbourne - Hastings (Wave) can be spared - at the height of the school holiday staycation and day trip season?

The buses all seem to have had Midland Red South legal lettering applied on a patch along with Bham 2022 patches over the Stagecoach names - quite an undertaking to prep them all and with programmed blinds? They all look to be in v good condition, panelling and paint work wise, from the videos.

Curious to see the odd one v obviously lost - a Stagecoach E400MMC driving down the tram tracks at the bottom of Corporation St (towards the New St station entrances.....)
Thanet have had some loans from SC East (ex Dover E300s) to cover for some of the loans to Midlands

Plus iirc Stagecoach has a "reserve fleet" of older buses for stuff to cover for things like this, the gold Cup etc
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: ellspurs on August 07, 2022, 10:19:36 AM
Stagecoach Oxford have a number of single-deck vehicles out on routes that I've not seen serviced by them before. Main one in my mind is the 10. 

It is also a lot quieter over there at the moment as it is the University holiday time.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: B61 ANDREW on August 07, 2022, 08:40:49 PM
I guess that the Stagecoach vehicles will start to head home on Tuesday morning ? 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: the trainbasher on August 07, 2022, 08:53:08 PM
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on August 07, 2022, 08:40:49 PMI guess that the Stagecoach vehicles will start to head home on Tuesday morning ?
Some of the E200s will have to go to have their seats reinstalled from when they were removed to make additional wheelchair spaces i believe
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: 2206 on August 07, 2022, 11:29:24 PM
NX E400 coming into the City from Perry Barr direction displaying Birmingham 2022 today. 
Was on 4898 so didn't get the fleetnumber. From Bus Times look like it was 4809 on the 51. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: the trainbasher on August 08, 2022, 12:31:11 AM
Quote from: 2206 on August 07, 2022, 11:29:24 PMNX E400 coming into the City from Perry Barr direction displaying Birmingham 2022 today.
Was on 4898 so didn't get the fleetnumber. From Bus Times look like it was 4809 on the 51.
It would have displayed something like "Birmingham 2022 Standby Vehicle"
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: markcf83 on August 08, 2022, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 07, 2022, 01:02:06 AMThanet have had some loans from SC East (ex Dover E300s) to cover for some of the loans to Midlands

Plus iirc Stagecoach has a "reserve fleet" of older buses for stuff to cover for things like this, the gold Cup etc
Related to this,South Wales loaned four Enviro midis to Eastbourne. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: B61 ANDREW on August 11, 2022, 09:06:32 AM
Are there many/any Stagecoach buses still to go back "home" ??
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on August 11, 2022, 09:15:04 AM
QuoteAre there many/any Stagecoach buses still to go back "home" ??
The 60 reseated E200MMCs are all at Alexnader Dennis to revert back to normal
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: B61 ANDREW on August 11, 2022, 09:25:31 AM
Thanks Tony for the info . I noted 18 various Stagecoach buses heading south on the M5 around Tuesday lunchtime.   Mostly d/d's from Devon. :cool:
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: tjwpsv on August 28, 2022, 03:02:25 PM
Among the Stagecoach vehicles brought in were a number of Mercedes Sprinter minibuses. Did anyone identify what these were used for, please?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Lukeee on August 28, 2022, 05:11:09 PM
Quote from: tjwpsv on August 28, 2022, 03:02:25 PMAmong the Stagecoach vehicles brought in were a number of Mercedes Sprinter minibuses. Did anyone identify what these were used for, please?
Driver shuttles perhaps?
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on August 28, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
QuoteDriver shuttles perhaps?
No, they used deckers for those, I think it was some specialist journeys for athletes & staff
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Isle of Stroma on August 28, 2022, 08:40:00 PM
My attention was elsewhere during the Games (I only took 44 pics in total, all from a solitary visit to the Erdington compound on the 23rd). 44008 was on route learning duties, both this one & 44003 still carried Stagecoach idents.
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Tony on August 28, 2022, 09:07:55 PM
QuoteMy attention was elsewhere during the Games (I only took 44 pics in total, all from a solitary visit to the Erdington compound on the 23rd). 44008 was on route learning duties, both this one & 44003 still carried Stagecoach idents.
They all had Stagecoach names covered during the games, here's 44003 http://wmbusphotos.com/Stagecoach/40000/44003.html
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: Isle of Stroma on August 29, 2022, 10:50:04 AM
QuoteThey all had Stagecoach names covered during the games, here's 44003 http://wmbusphotos.com/Stagecoach/40000/44003.html

Fair enough. I only managed two E400's at Stonebridge Island, having eschewed chasing games transports to successfully shift that Monkey that I mentioned on 3225.

Those two Breadvans I mentioned (44003/8) were the only two present still showing Stagecoach idents, 44027 had already been dealt with.

44003 on 23/7: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58130037@N02/52318833691/in/photostream/
Title: Re: Commonwealth Games Fleet
Post by: jc on September 05, 2022, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: tjwpsv on August 28, 2022, 03:02:25 PMAmong the Stagecoach vehicles brought in were a number of Mercedes Sprinter minibuses. Did anyone identify what these were used for, please?

At least 2 were needed for an Athletes shuttle from Birmingham Uni to King Edwards School just off the Bristol Road, running every 30 minutes.