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Title: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: The Fox 4846 on November 24, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
Due to the cycle Lane there has been an increase in congestion. Is there anyway in which National Express or TfWM can get involved an push for the cycle Lane which is never used to be removed in order to reinstate the bus Lane?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2020, 10:32:26 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on November 24, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
Due to the cycle Lane there has been an increase in congestion. Is there anyway in which National Express or TfWM can get involved an push for the cycle Lane which is never used to be removed in order to reinstate the bus Lane?
It's along Nechells Parkway as well. I don't understand why they couldn't of put in the centre of the carriage way like the one on Bristol Road. They've done the same to Brassington Avenue in Sutton removed one lane so its now a single lane for traffic and this means slow moving traffic in peak hours.

Right waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: John on November 24, 2020, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 24, 2020, 10:32:26 AM
It's along Nechells Parkway as well. I don't understand why they couldn't of put in the centre of the carriage way like the one on Bristol Road. They've done the same to Brassington Avenue in Sutton removed one lane so its now a single lane for traffic and this means slow moving traffic in peak hours.

Right waste of time and money.

The one in Sutton has been removed
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Tony on November 24, 2020, 03:23:26 PM
The Jennens Road one won't cause any grief once the Moor Street bus gate is in operation
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: bususer28 on November 24, 2020, 06:12:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2020, 03:23:26 PM
The Jennens Road one won't cause any grief once the Moor Street bus gate is in operation
When is it due to be introduced?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Tony on November 24, 2020, 06:30:54 PM
Quote from: bususer28 on November 24, 2020, 06:12:43 PM
When is it due to be introduced?

Already in place, due to start being enforced early next month
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Steveminor on November 25, 2020, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2020, 03:23:26 PM
The Jennens Road one won't cause any grief once the Moor Street bus gate is in operation


You might want to consult with David Bradford on that point his view is the same as mine.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Tony on November 25, 2020, 04:21:04 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on November 25, 2020, 01:24:09 PM

You might want to consult with David Bradford on that point his view is the same as mine.

I don't need to consult, I  am expressing my personal view
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Steve3229vp on November 25, 2020, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2020, 03:23:26 PM
The Jennens Road one won't cause any grief once the Moor Street bus gate is in operation
Does this mean traffic (private cars) will be banned from Moor Street ?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Tony on November 25, 2020, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 25, 2020, 04:56:18 PM
Does this mean traffic (private cars) will be banned from Moor Street ?

Yes, all through traffic will be prohibited on Moor Street.

Loading in Carrs Lane & Albert Street will be the only traffic allowed.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: ellspurs on November 25, 2020, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2020, 05:29:55 PM
Yes, all through traffic will be prohibited on Moor Street.

Loading in Carrs Lane & Albert Street will be the only traffic allowed.

Albert Street is for access to the car park, right?

I weren't too sure if the bus gate was already in operation when I was trying to get through to the Bull Ring loading area a few weeks ago, so I just came back out to the ring road and went round that way.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2020, 01:41:48 PM
The bus gates go live on Monday, prohibiting all through traffic
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Steve3229vp on November 27, 2020, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 27, 2020, 01:41:48 PM
The bus gates go live on Monday, prohibiting all through traffic
I haven't been in town for a few weeks due to isolating so are these bus gates traffic light operated and will the traffic that would normally pass through Moor Street Queensway be re-routed before each end of the road ?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 27, 2020, 02:46:51 PM
I haven't been in town for a few weeks due to isolating so are these bus gates traffic light operated and will the traffic that would normally pass through Moor Street Queensway be re-routed before each end of the road ?

No traffic lights,  cannot see any point in them, but at the gate there's U turns available for any traffic that does accidentally stray up to them
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Steve3229vp on November 27, 2020, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 27, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
No traffic lights,  cannot see any point in them, but at the gate there's U turns available for any traffic that does accidentally stray up to them
Thanks Tony, I'm back at work Wednesday (travelling through the City) and I'm interested to see how it goes
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: monkeyjoe on December 04, 2020, 10:18:56 PM
Has this situation been resolved yet or too early to comment?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: The Fox 4846 on December 05, 2020, 12:13:28 AM
From what I've seen today between 12-2pm In the peak and higher demand times buses are getting caught up. At 2 today most of the Lancaster circus buses were using dale end and the priory Queensway because of the backlog and buses were routinely late from what I saw. Also is this bus gate in operation as I saw not a single motorist turn back and instead continue along the bus gate.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: The Fox 4846 on December 05, 2020, 03:26:58 PM
The traffic from Albert street is that bad that is causing a bus queue all the way down carrs lane.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: Stu on December 05, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on December 05, 2020, 03:26:58 PM
The traffic from Albert street is that bad that is causing a bus queue all the way down carrs lane.

There's a protest march talking place in the city centre at the moment.
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: ellspurs on December 05, 2020, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 05, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
There's a protest march talking place in the city centre at the moment.

I wonder if they'll get fined for breaching the bus gate!

(I know they won't)
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: MasterPlan on December 05, 2020, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 05, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
There's a protest march talking place in the city centre at the moment.

A protest about what?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: ellspurs on December 05, 2020, 07:13:54 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 05, 2020, 07:12:37 PM
A protest about what?

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/this-tyranny-lockdown-protesters-birmingham-19406318

Being allowed to live, it seems?
Title: Re: Jennens Road Cycle Lane
Post by: ellspurs on December 06, 2020, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 27, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
No traffic lights,  cannot see any point in them, but at the gate there's U turns available for any traffic that does accidentally stray up to them

The local rag finally got around to doing a report on the bus gate:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-bus-gate-blocks-cars-19404679