Service changes 1st September 2019
Birmingham changes
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-sunday-1st-september-2019
Black Country changes
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-1st-september-2019
What's happening then to the bits of the 24 that are not covered by the 14/a then??
I'm guessing they're referring to the Sunday timetables for the 23/24. If they are it isn't clear.
Also what does this mean?
"The Terminus for this service will operate from Newman University."
Is the 23 terminating at Newman Uni again? Thought it was moved from there because of the parking concerns.
Wonder if Coventry changes are happening?
Harborne routes is they frequency being cut almost halved or am I reading that wrong ?
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 06, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Harborne routes is they frequency being cut almost halved or am I reading that wrong ?
I think it's refering to tge Sunday frequency being improved.
I notice there are still some routes that haven't had their normal timetables registered from 1st Sept. Does that mean there are more changes to come?
Quote from: gc802002 on August 06, 2019, 06:22:38 PM
Wonder if Coventry changes are happening?
Although no exact date was ever given I think we'll have to wait slightly longer for the Coventry service changes, most likely 29th September ::)
(going on the basis that the Coventry consultation was issued a month before the West Dudley one which has it's date set for 27th Oct).
Quote from: Steve3229vp on August 06, 2019, 03:54:47 PM
Service changes 1st September 2019
Birmingham changes
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-sunday-1st-september-2019
Black Country changes
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-1st-september-2019
They've been taken off the NX site !
Quote from: Steve3229vp on August 07, 2019, 09:51:40 AM
They've been taken off the NX site !
no they haven't I can still see them
What's happening to the 24 between Dudley and Merry hill as it's only mentions the 14 extension to foxyards
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on August 07, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
What's happening to the 24 between Dudley and Merry hill as it's only mentions the 14 extension to foxyards
It's being withdrawn between Dudley & Foxyards and replaced by the 14.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on August 07, 2019, 01:37:46 PM
It's being withdrawn between Dudley & Foxyards and replaced by the 14.
The NXWM website has now been changed to say that the 24 will continue to run between Dudley and Merry Hill to a revised timetable. It looks as through the 14/14A/24 will no longer all interwork, with the 14 operating as a standalone service. The new 24 timetable has not been posted but I am guessing that the 14A/24 will still interwork.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/broad-street-bus-services-birmingham-16715883
Quote from: 979 on August 07, 2019, 06:26:34 PM
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/broad-street-bus-services-birmingham-16715883
doesnt say where the buses are going to get to colmore row
Five ways island will do me
Quote from: karl724223 on August 07, 2019, 07:32:34 PM
doesnt say where the buses are going to get to colmore row
Five ways island will do me
Are they not going to go down Broad Street at all?
Will they use Ladywood Middleway, Spring Hill Island, Summer Hill Road and Sand Pits like they used to on Friday/Saturday nights?
Unless they send some of the Broad Street services in to the City Centre the way the 23/24 go. Tennant Street, Bishopsgate Street, Bath Row, Holloway Head and Smallbrook Queensway.
Looks like into city they will go onto broad st from five ways into city then turn left into ryland st then right onto grosvenor street then sheepcoat st into city
Out of city from sheepcoat st , right onto grosvenor st , left onto friston st left onto Ladywood Middleway to five ways then normal way ( hagley road buses)
http://metroalliance.co.uk/bus-users-urged-to-plan-ahead-as-metro-construction-continues-on-broad-street/
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 07, 2019, 08:49:46 PM
Looks like into city they will go onto broad st from five ways into city then turn left into ryland st then right onto grosvenor street then sheepcoat st into city
Out of city from sheepcoat st , right onto grosvenor st , left onto friston st left onto Ladywood Middleway to five ways then normal way ( hagley road buses)
http://metroalliance.co.uk/bus-users-urged-to-plan-ahead-as-metro-construction-continues-on-broad-street/
Nasty left turn from Grosvenor St onto Sheepcote St.
Just Checked Google maps isn't grosvenor St one way... So can only use it coming out of city
Why is the 6 being cut from Solihull station, is it capacity and traffic ?
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 09, 2019, 07:48:36 AM
Why is the 6 being cut from Solihull station, is it capacity and traffic ?
It will still stop by the rear entrance of Solihull Station on Blossomfield Road anyway.
The majoirity of passengers tend to get on at Solihull Town Centre as well.
Quote from: MasterPlan on August 06, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
Also what does this mean?
"The Terminus for this service will operate from Newman University."
Is the 23 terminating at Newman Uni again? Thought it was moved from there because of the parking concerns.
According to a poster on the bus it seems so. It said Moors Lane won't be served anymore.
Quote from: mesub on August 10, 2019, 07:59:12 PM
According to a poster on the bus it seems so. It said Moors Lane won't be served anymore.
Hmm, seems a bit strange, that.
Looks like there will be a route change on the 10/10H/10S from 2nd September.
Does anyone know what is changing?
https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/790
Quote from: 2206 on August 12, 2019, 11:42:45 AM
Looks like there will be a route change on the 10/10H/10S from 2nd September.
Does anyone know what is changing?
https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/790
Broad street diversion
One of Acocks Greens 83X Enviro 200's came through Yardley yesterday along the to be extended 58 route showing "driver Training". Will these be used from 1st September?
Quote from: Eric Shaw on August 12, 2019, 07:15:10 PM
One of Acocks Greens 83X Enviro 200's came through Yardley yesterday along the to be extended 58 route showing "driver Training". Will these be used from 1st September?
The E200 MMC got very overcrowded (overcrowded to the point where it would be no longer possible to let any more people on) on the 58 on the 07:56 from Yardley Swan to Solihull, during school term time.
So if the shorter 83X were used on there, they wouldn't cope on that journey which is being extended, 07:27 from Kingshurst to Solihull.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on August 12, 2019, 07:15:10 PM
One of Acocks Greens 83X Enviro 200's came through Yardley yesterday along the to be extended 58 route showing "driver Training". Will these be used from 1st September?
More than likely just being used for the driver training. We used a B7 on the route learning for the 12A and 13, it's E400MMC's in service.
So it's been almost two weeks since the 58 got extended and I've just realised that it runs every half hour up until 2pm where it then runs hourly until 6pm. Is that because of the TFWM funding or was the old 59 not frequently used by passengers after Yardley Swan?
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 14, 2019, 12:25:20 AM
So it's been almost two weeks since the 58 got extended and I've just realised that it runs every half hour up until 2pm where it then runs hourly until 6pm. Is that because of the TFWM funding or was the old 59 not frequently used by passengers after Yardley Swan?
You're probably right about passenger numbers at certain times. Passenger travelling patterns have changed radically, I remember when I was growing up in the 1970's and 1980's that there used to be a big increase in passenger numbers in peaks on Monday to Friday, a good example was the 33 which increased from around every 10 minutes in the main daytime, but increased to round every 5 minutes in peak hours, now it runs every 10 minutes all day. Workers hours have changed completely over the years. On Saturday's some routes used to be more frequent, again using the 33 as an example was every 7-8 minutes compared to every 10 minutes on Monday to Friday now the Saturday frequency is the same as Monday to Friday (every 10 minutes), now some routes are LESS frequent on Saturday's than Monday to Friday examples being Birmingham services 4, 4A and 6.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on September 14, 2019, 11:06:50 AM
You're probably right about passenger numbers at certain times. Passenger travelling patterns have changed radically, I remember when I was growing up in the 1970's and 1980's that there used to be a big increase in passenger numbers in peaks on Monday to Friday, a good example was the 33 which increased from around every 10 minutes in the main daytime, but increased to round every 5 minutes in peak hours, now it runs every 10 minutes all day. Workers hours have changed completely over the years. On Saturday's some routes used to be more frequent, again using the 33 as an example was every 7-8 minutes compared to every 10 minutes on Monday to Friday now the Saturday frequency is the same as Monday to Friday (every 10 minutes), now some routes are LESS frequent on Saturday's than Monday to Friday examples being Birmingham services 4, 4A and 6.
I would also say that lack of increases in frequency in peak times we are seeing is also partly dude to increased running times due to traffic etc.