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Title: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2015, 06:39:36 PM
Also what is the oldest you can start to learn to drive?
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Tony on January 25, 2015, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 25, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
Whenever the driver chooses to retire, whether it be for personal reasons or for health reasons preventing them from being able to do their job safely...

There's no upper age limit beyond which you can't obtain a PCV license or keep it, however I expect medicals will become more frequent when you get beyond a certain age and obviously failing a medical would lead to the license being revoked. We have a few old boys at GB the oldest being 67 and I've heard of drivers at other companies being in their 80s

It is illegal now for a company to make any retire on the grounds of age. Up to the age of 65 you have to have a medical every 5 years, from 65 onwards it is every year to keep your license. Walsall had a driver well into his 70s up until quite recently
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
I know Derek Ludlow (of Ludlows buses) still drives buses and he's in his 70s/80s.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: bususer12 on January 25, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
I know Derek Ludlow (of Ludlows buses) still drives buses and he's in his 70s/80s.

Does he drive for Hansons @the trainbasher ?
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: bususer12 on January 25, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
I know Derek Ludlow (of Ludlows buses) still drives buses and he's in his 70s/80s.

Does he drive for Hansons @the trainbasher ?

Yes
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 25, 2015, 09:36:31 PM
Does the owner of Prospect Coaches still drive , he must be getting on a bit?
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: windy miller on January 26, 2015, 02:32:28 AM
 Are there any old Johnsons (Henley in Arden)) drivers out there? or maybe your father drove for them c1960?.. they operated my school run for years. They only had a small number of vehicles (Bedford Duples? I think) in those days and were based at the bottom of livery hill on the A34 about half a mile short of Henley.  Happy days!  :)
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: bususer12 on January 25, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
I know Derek Ludlow (of Ludlows buses) still drives buses and he's in his 70s/80s.

Does he drive for Hansons @the trainbasher ?

Yes

I know Derek, quite small?
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: mranon on January 26, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
theres a few old fellows who drive not just buses, but coaches and minibuses. without them especially coaches would really struggle. they have to have annual medicals after 65, howeve i bet a lot have packed it on over cpc etc
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Jay on January 26, 2015, 06:38:06 PM
Quote from: bususer12 on January 25, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 25, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
I know Derek Ludlow (of Ludlows buses) still drives buses and he's in his 70s/80s.

Does he drive for Hansons @the trainbasher ?

I know there's one other works part time with Hansons, his name is Alan
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems

Aren't you like, what, 14 at the moment?!
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems

Aren't you like, what, 14 at the moment?!

Yes, ha ha, got my life planned out, did matt tell you my age?
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems

Aren't you like, what, 14 at the moment?!

Yes, ha ha, got my life planned out

Good luck sticking to that plan. I can guarantee it'll go haywire in about 12 months ;-) All of a sudden you'll start noticing those strange creatures called "girls". Never managed to work them out and I'm pushing the bad side of 60!

And for the record I left on my own accord from NXWM and the health troubles started after retirement.

Talking to drivers and such the duties have took a turn for the worse so I don't really miss it. I do miss the buses though (not E200's) and I wish I drove more Hybrids but never mind.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 08:04:18 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 26, 2015, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems

Aren't you like, what, 14 at the moment?!

Yes, ha ha, got my life planned out, did matt tell you my age?

No I didn't

No he didn't. I just picked a number. It had nothing to do with @Tony 's favourite route...
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 08:04:18 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 26, 2015, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems

Aren't you like, what, 14 at the moment?!

Yes, ha ha, got my life planned out, did matt tell you my age?

No I didn't

No he didn't. I just picked a number. It had nothing to do with @Tony 's favourite route...

I think you have a good shout at winning the lottery.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2015, 06:23:44 PM
I mean when I'm 60, do you think NX will still exist? Would there be more hybrid buses?
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2015, 06:23:44 PM
I mean when I'm 60, do you think NX will still exist? Would there be more hybrid buses?

You're having a laugh aren't you
How do you expect anyone to predict what will happen in 46 years time

46 years ago it was still Birmingham City Transport etc

And as one prediction I will make in 46 years time there will be less hybrid buses and I would put a large bet on that if I thought it would be worth me collecting the winnings when I was 98 years old
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 06:38:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2015, 06:23:44 PM
I mean when I'm 60, do you think NX will still exist? Would there be more hybrid buses?


Who knows what public transport will be like in 46 yrs time, it may not even be needed!
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: the trainbasher on January 27, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
It's a pity my crystal ball is on the blink otherwise I'd give you an accurate forecast!
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Ex BC driver on January 27, 2015, 07:49:56 PM
I was talking to Mr DeCourcey last year, he told me he will be 70 this year, and still does any jobs that need doing, even sometimes driving for Coventry or NEC depots
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Mike K on January 27, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

A depressing thought but so too might I. If not I'll most likely be sat dribbling, muttering incoherently, in a pool of my own p*ss. A bit like an average Saturday night now.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Alex on January 27, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

@Liverpool Street In 46 years, i'll be 60/61 (my birthdays on Thursday, so depends what day in 2060), and probably still going on about how withdrawing the 340 was a mistake ::).
Still, at least i won't be moaning about the 59 (or whatever the number'll be at that time) @Nathan  ;) (Only kidding mate)

I guess somethings don't/won't ever change :)
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

@Liverpool Street I would never cheer at that, i don't reckon i will be here in 46 years either, me at 95, don't think so.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 27, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

@Liverpool Street In 46 years, i'll be 60/61 (my birthdays on Thursday, so depends what day in 2060), and probably still going on about how withdrawing the 340 was a mistake ::).
Still, at least i won't be moaning about the 59 (or whatever the number'll be at that time) @Nathan  ;) (Only kidding mate)

I guess somethings don't/won't ever change :)

I really don't think public transport as we know it would exist in 2060, i think much faster means of travelling will have been developed, who knows you might have something like Star Trek and be transported to wherever you wish to go. It might seem a bit far fetched, but they are developing the technology. Would make life really boring in my opinion.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2015, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 27, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

@Liverpool Street In 46 years, i'll be 60/61 (my birthdays on Thursday, so depends what day in 2060), and probably still going on about how withdrawing the 340 was a mistake ::).
Still, at least i won't be moaning about the 59 (or whatever the number'll be at that time) @Nathan  ;) (Only kidding mate)

I guess somethings don't/won't ever change :)

I really don't think public transport as we know it would exist in 2060, i think much faster means of travelling will have been developed, who knows you might have something like Star Trek and be transported to wherever you wish to go. It might seem a bit far fetched, but they are developing the technology. Would make life really boring in my opinion.

Which is why I was so confident there will be less Hybrids. I very much doubt if there were any buses using diesel other than preserved ones
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: the trainbasher on January 27, 2015, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2015, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 27, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

@Liverpool Street In 46 years, i'll be 60/61 (my birthdays on Thursday, so depends what day in 2060), and probably still going on about how withdrawing the 340 was a mistake ::).
Still, at least i won't be moaning about the 59 (or whatever the number'll be at that time) @Nathan  ;) (Only kidding mate)

I guess somethings don't/won't ever change :)

I really don't think public transport as we know it would exist in 2060, i think much faster means of travelling will have been developed, who knows you might have something like Star Trek and be transported to wherever you wish to go. It might seem a bit far fetched, but they are developing the technology. Would make life really boring in my opinion.

Which is why I was so confident there will be less Hybrids. I very much doubt if there were any buses using diesel other than preserved ones

If diesel still exists...
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 27, 2015, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2015, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 27, 2015, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 27, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
Aww. In 46 years I'll be long gone :(

No cheering, @Stuharris 6360 ! Haha

@Liverpool Street In 46 years, i'll be 60/61 (my birthdays on Thursday, so depends what day in 2060), and probably still going on about how withdrawing the 340 was a mistake ::).
Still, at least i won't be moaning about the 59 (or whatever the number'll be at that time) @Nathan  ;) (Only kidding mate)

I guess somethings don't/won't ever change :)

I really don't think public transport as we know it would exist in 2060, i think much faster means of travelling will have been developed, who knows you might have something like Star Trek and be transported to wherever you wish to go. It might seem a bit far fetched, but they are developing the technology. Would make life really boring in my opinion.

Which is why I was so confident there will be less Hybrids. I very much doubt if there were any buses using diesel other than preserved ones

If diesel still exists...

Nuclear powered buses?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: Liverpool Street on January 28, 2015, 01:39:44 AM
Fossil fuels, like me, are on the way out. Its unsustainable and filthy. But the combustion engine as we know it is still bloody brilliant.

However, what I can see in the future is this;

Light Rail Transit on all major corridors out of all cities/towns in the developed world and electric buses with solar rechargeable batteries which last a hell of a long time, shuttling people from the end of the corridor to further points of which the road train wouldn't reach.

For example, obviously I'll use the Pershore Road for my example;

Inter-City Shuttle Hoppers
VV takes passengers to the LRT terminal
LRT flies along uncongested rail tracks in the center of Pershore Road (or whatever, after development)
VV terminates at Cotteridge, where a constant flow of electric buses continues the journey around to Cofton Hackett or one big loop where they do a 45 cotteridge - cofton 47 - cotteridge etc

Something like that I can see happening. Buses as we know them today have changed so much from the early days, and with that much development further changes are only blinded by your own lack of vision.

The idea portrayed above is something similar to what is happening to the Hagley Road stretch isn't it?

Inter-City bus travel I reckon in the time scale of 46 years could very well be consigned to the history books.

We all think about electric power, but there's other sources and avenues yet explored. Hydrogen, for example. There's all sorts of other chemical compounds which, when manipulated for stability, can be used and which there is plentiful natural supply.

Don't get me wrong I don't vote Green Party or anything but sustainable fuel sources are required.
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: windy miller on January 28, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
I was thinking of driving when I reach 60. Is this possible then? I'm guessing so as long as I don't have any health problems

Aren't you like, what, 14 at the moment?!

Yes, ha ha, got my life planned out

Good luck sticking to that plan. I can guarantee it'll go haywire in about 12 months ;-) All of a sudden you'll start noticing those strange creatures called "girls". Never managed to work them out and I'm pushing the bad side of 60!

And for the record I left on my own accord from NXWM and the health troubles started after retirement.

Talking to drivers and such the duties have took a turn for the worse so I don't really miss it. I do miss the buses though (not E200's) and I wish I drove more Hybrids but never mind.
Good advice that is... They don't give you any warning either... at the age of 16 I just opened my wallet and there she was!.... bane of my life ever since
Title: Re: What is the retirement age for a bus driver?
Post by: bwsau cymru on February 01, 2015, 09:39:23 PM
The company I work for have a self employed driver who does schools and the odd day hire, day tip. he is 78