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Title: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: JB93 on July 29, 2014, 03:09:54 PM
Don't know if something like this has already been done but thought it would be a good way to get some background information on each other and find out the local routes and garages that we're all most familiar with.

With me, I live in Tile Cross, near the East Meadway, and my closest bus route is the 97, which I use far too much, but other routes within a 5 minute walk are the 14, 59, 70, 71, 72 (all at the crossroads of the Meadway/Kitts Green Rd.) and 5 mins in the other direction from my house I can get the 71 or 94 on Chelmsley Road, Fordbridge. Or there's the S20 and 91 I can get on Tile Cross Road which are of no use to me, or it's about a 10 minute walk down to Tile Cross shops if I ever needed to get the 17.

Closest garage to me is probably Bordesley.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
I live in Smethwick. The (Arriva) 21 and (WB) 46 run on my road. The 55 (Diamond) and 89 are round the corner from me (2-3 minute walk). Up the road, are the 48 and 129. The 53 and 120 are a five minute walk up the road, the 83 is a 5 minute walk in the opposite direction. The 54/A (Diamond), 80 and 87 - as well as Smethwick Galton Bridge railway station, are 10 mins away.

Overall, I have really good transport links. I always get the train over anything else, as there are 4 trains per hour to New Street and 6 to Snow Hill/Moor Street. If I do get the bus, my first options are 83/89 and 129, just because they run the closest to me - although I often just get whatever comes first, or just the 80 home if I'm by the markets. On a Sunday, the 83/89 and 120 are the closest options, and they run within 15 minutes of each other at Colmore Row at xx:05 (120), xx:20 (83), xx:35 (120), xx:50 (89)
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: danny on July 29, 2014, 03:24:16 PM
Ive recently moved to Oakham near Dudley. So my locals are the 120 with a nice variety of B7RLEs Tridents and Enviro 400s. The 121 with its brand new enviro 200s. 127 with any WB Double decker. 126 short walk down the hill and Hanson's 208, with Arriva on the evening and Sunday's.

So it's all pretty handy. Got direct buses to 2 major cities. Most local black country towns over this side. and Merry hill. And a nice variety  :)
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: danny on July 29, 2014, 03:24:16 PM
Ive recently moved to Oakham near Dudley. So my locals are the 120 with a nice variety of B7RLEs Tridents and Enviro 400s. The 121 with its brand new enviro 200s. 127 with any WB Double decker. 126 short walk down the hill and Hanson's 208, with Arriva on the evening and Sunday's.

So it's all pretty handy. Got direct buses to 2 major cities. Most local black country towns over this side. and Merry hill. And a nice variety  :)

Apart from the Plaxton Presidents and Dudley Road branded Geminis
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: danny on July 29, 2014, 03:34:48 PM
This Is true... However. With the 127 frequency being every 30 minutes across the Dudley hills. Presidents are aloud I believe.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2014, 03:36:38 PM
I live in the Wednesfield area of Wolverhampton. My local routes are the NX59 (WN) and 69/89 (WA).
Also along the main Lichfield Rd is the Arriva Cannock 68 which adds a bit of variety amongst the NX buses. I get a variety of vehicle types with Tridents, E400H's and a couple of Spectra's on the 59, B7RLE's and Tridents (With Omnilinks and E400's sometimes thrown ito the mix) on the 89 with B10L's on the 69.

Then you have the Arriva 18 and 57 that serve Stubby Lane. This used be served by NX's former 528 service however it goes Via New Invention now.


Also you have the 25A/C within a 10 minute walk of my house and the 28 is 6-7 minutes away on Peacock Avenue

WN garage is my main area of expertise/interest and is about 10/15 minutes drive away. Walsall is about 15-20 minutes car journey away going through Bloxwich
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: JB93 on July 29, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
I live in Smethwick. The (Arriva) 21 and (WB) 46 run on my road. The 55 (Diamond) and 89 are round the corner from me (2-3 minute walk). Up the road, are the 48 and 129. The 53 and 120 are a five minute walk up the road, the 83 is a 5 minute walk in the opposite direction. The 54/A (Diamond), 80 and 87 - as well as Smethwick Galton Bridge railway station, are 10 mins away.

Overall, I have really good transport links. I always get the train over anything else, as there are 4 trains per hour to New Street and 6 to Snow Hill/Moor Street. If I do get the bus, my first options are 83/89 and 129, just because they run the closest to me - although I often just get whatever comes first, or just the 80 home if I'm by the markets. On a Sunday, the 83/89 and 120 are the closest options, and they run within 15 minutes of each other at Colmore Row at xx:05 (120), xx:20 (83), xx:35 (120), xx:50 (89)

I never bother with trains to be honest, I've got Lea Hall Station about a 10 minute walk away or Marston Green about a 20 minute walk, but by the time I've got to the train station and waited for a train I could be halfway there on a bus :P
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: danny on July 29, 2014, 03:34:48 PM
This Is true... However. With the 127 frequency being every 30 minutes across the Dudley hills. Presidents are aloud I believe.

I don't think they are, the 127 may be on the same VOSA registration as the 128 and 129, and all these routes combine to make a 10 minute frequency
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: danny on July 29, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
Arr I stand corrected  :)
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 03:44:57 PM
Quote from: JB93 on July 29, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
I live in Smethwick. The (Arriva) 21 and (WB) 46 run on my road. The 55 (Diamond) and 89 are round the corner from me (2-3 minute walk). Up the road, are the 48 and 129. The 53 and 120 are a five minute walk up the road, the 83 is a 5 minute walk in the opposite direction. The 54/A (Diamond), 80 and 87 - as well as Smethwick Galton Bridge railway station, are 10 mins away.

Overall, I have really good transport links. I always get the train over anything else, as there are 4 trains per hour to New Street and 6 to Snow Hill/Moor Street. If I do get the bus, my first options are 83/89 and 129, just because they run the closest to me - although I often just get whatever comes first, or just the 80 home if I'm by the markets. On a Sunday, the 83/89 and 120 are the closest options, and they run within 15 minutes of each other at Colmore Row at xx:05 (120), xx:20 (83), xx:35 (120), xx:50 (89)

I never bother with trains to be honest, I've got Lea Hall Station about a 10 minute walk away or Marston Green about a 20 minute walk, but by the time I've got to the train station and waited for a train I could be halfway there on a bus :P

I'm lucky I live at a station with 10 trains per hour to a Birmingham. I never have to wait any longer than 12 minutes for a train. Rolfe St is closer, but less trains per hour, if I get the bus to Birmingham, I'll be looking at an approx. 30 minute journey, whereas the train gets me into Birmingham in 7-10 minutes
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Rob H on July 29, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
I live in Sheldon just up the road from the Morrisons Store and all my local routes are listed below;

NXWM - 60/70/71/72/73/900/900E/957 (B7RLE's/Omnilink's/President's/Gemini's/Tridents/Enviro 400's)
Claribels & Sunny Travel - 71E (Commander's/Pulsar's/Darts)
Diamond - 96/99 (Solo's/Darts/MPD's)
Silverline - S10 (Solo's/Enviro 200's)
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Kiewii on July 29, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
I live just outside Dundee and my local routes are the Stagecoach 16, 16A, 16B, X42 and 77 and NX 5, X5, 14 and 17.

5/X5 - ADL E400H
14 - ADL E200, Solo, Gemini
16/A/B - B7TL Vyking, MAN ALX300/E300, ADL E300, Dart
17 - B7TL President, Gemini, B10BLE
X42 - MAN ALX300/E300, ADL E300
77 - MAN ALX300/E300, ADL E300
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: andrew1991 on July 29, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
Upper Gornal

1
223 (not that i've used for years)

Walk 10 mins towards Dudley and i also have the 27 & X96
Walk 10 mins to Sedgley and I have the 27, 27A, 224(if it still runs ?) And the 229 (which i have never used)
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: trident4370 on July 29, 2014, 05:16:49 PM
Anyone who knows me outside of here knows I live in Kings Heath by Hazelwell Church.
Local Buses are the 11A, 11C and 35 all a 5 minute walk from my house, the Johnsons 69 is about an 8 minute walk from mine although I don't use it. I also have the 27 10 minutes away and the 76 15 minutes away. I do also have the 50 just over 15 minutes away but don't really bother.
I get a great mixture of Presidents, Geminis, The Good Enviro 400, Tridents and the occasional Scania.

Just need Hazelwell Station reopened now and I'd be sorted :D     
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Stu on July 29, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
Shirley Road in Acocks Green village, a 1 min walk from the bus interchange.

Although I only use NX buses myself, there's a nice mixture round here:
Plaxton President B7TLs on the 1 and 11A/C
Wright Gemini B7TLs on the 1, 11A/C, 31 and 37
Wright Eclipse B7RLEs on the 1 and 37
Scania Omnilinks on the 1 and 37

More importantly, at present now, its a Dennis Trident and Enviro400 free zone!  ;)

And then a mix of whatever the other operators put out:
Optare Solos and ADL Enviro200s and the occasional Wright Streetlite on the Silverline 36
Plaxton Primos, Enviro200s on the WMSNT 40
Optare Solos, Versas, Enviro200s, Dennis Darts on the Diamond 30, 96 and 99

If ever the need arises to catch a train, there are two rail stations within a 10 minute walk, Spring Road and Acocks Green.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Bob on July 29, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
I live in Cannock on the Longford estate, youve got the stupidly timed Select ( formerly arriva and previously midland and before that Warstone) 67 to wolves from my road. Further up into the estate the Arriva no 2 service operates to walsall daytimes only ( not for much longer apparently once it gets sapphired). About 10 mins walk around the corneryou have the 68 from by national tyres daytime & evenings, and the evening 2s to walsall. The select is lways run by and the arriva are often run by mpd darts. Apart from an evening when,  bizarrely they often put a full sized pulsar or commander on!
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: old50niner on July 29, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
I live in Perry Beeches near the 952 Terminus.   Can use that, but prefer the 997 for a quicker ride to the City.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 29, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
I live in Cannock on the Longford estate, youve got the stupidly timed Select ( formerly arriva and previously midland and before that Warstone) 67 to wolves from my road. Further up into the estate the Arriva no 2 service operates to walsall daytimes only ( not for much longer apparently once it gets sapphired). About 10 mins walk around the corneryou have the 68 from by national tyres daytime & evenings, and the evening 2s to walsall. The select is lways run by and the arriva are often run by mpd darts. Apart from an evening when,  bizarrely they often put a full sized pulsar or commander on!

Your Lucky Bob. Hawks Green Estate where I live hasn't got any buses (Had TWM 345/349 when I moved in!) Not too far to walk to Cross Keys for 60/62, but I prefer to walk all the way to Hednesford for trains.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 29, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
I live in Stourbridge and the 288 passes my house 4/5 times a day Monday to Friday at present.

Years ago i could catch the 247/8 from the end of the road, but now they have gone, its just the 298/9 & 318, so no buses on Sunday.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Sh4318 on July 29, 2014, 09:57:43 PM
My area (being close to WB) is dominated by B7TL, go around the corner, there's Presidents, ALXs and Geminis (the best variety) on the 89 (with Darts and the odd Solo on the 55) and further down the road on the 83, walk up the road, you've got Geminis and ALXs on the 48 and 129. Walk 5 mins up the road, there's Tridents and Mercs on the 53 and B7RLEs on the 120, walk 10 minutes in the opposite direction, it's more B7TL, with the 80 and 87 in the form of Geminis and ALXs, oh, and Enviro 200s on the 46, Solos and Darts outside of my house on the 21
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Niall on July 29, 2014, 10:41:11 PM
I live in Halesowen, down the road from the old Quinton 9 terminus, and the 636 terminus at the Stag. Plenty of buses stop either end of my street, I mostly use the 9, 241 and 140, and the 002 if I'm going to MH. E400s, B7RLEs of various bodies, E200s, Tridents, Darts, the occasional Cadet, and WB's B7TLs in the mornings. I'm about a 15 minute walk away from the 23 (which I've been using to get home during the Bearwood road works) and the Diamond 54.

I used to use the 441 to get back from Halesowen after school. It was much quieter (and quicker), and I quite liked the Mercs/Darts. I tended to use the 002 journey that went down Mucklow Hill in the mornings (back when it was Ludlows). Although the numerous changes to the TWM Hagley Road services kept changing my preferences.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Isle of Stroma on July 30, 2014, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: JB93 on July 29, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
I never bother with trains to be honest, I've got Lea Hall Station about a 10 minute walk away or Marston Green about a 20 minute walk, but by the time I've got to the train station and waited for a train I could be halfway there on a bus :P

You must be in my neck of the woods, but i'll choose the train over the bus wherever possible. Now there's only one op on the 97, I find the service woeful. I'd rather walk 20 mins to Marston Green for the semi to New St (as little as a 6 minute journey on a good day). Off peak local train journeys are ridiculously cheap - eg Lea Hall - Stechford return for less than a single bus ride, Lea Hall - New St return for £2.60, or Marston - Coventry return for less than £3.

I don't travel frequently enough to justify a pass & rarely bother with daysavers. A daytripper is very tempting though, using the Claribels 71 to Marston for an onwards train - the added bonus of Claribels over NXWM is that they can issue a legible ticket! (with widescale daysaver fraud in the area, I get exceedingly p!ssed off by paying for an illegible 'not seen ink in years' ticket from NXWM).

Admittedly, I did jump on a 97A this morning, but there was the attraction of a nice new Chinese frame on the deck at BHX to entice me!
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Ex BC driver on July 30, 2014, 02:13:18 AM
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 30, 2014, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: JB93 on July 29, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
I never bother with trains to be honest, I've got Lea Hall Station about a 10 minute walk away or Marston Green about a 20 minute walk, but by the time I've got to the train station and waited for a train I could be halfway there on a bus :P

You must be in my neck of the woods, but i'll choose the train over the bus wherever possible. Now there's only one op on the 97, I find the service woeful. I'd rather walk 20 mins to Marston Green for the semi to New St (as little as a 6 minute journey on a good day). Off peak local train journeys are ridiculously cheap - eg Lea Hall - Stechford return for less than a single bus ride, Lea Hall - New St return for £2.60, or Marston - Coventry return for less than £3.

I don't travel frequently enough to justify a pass & rarely bother with daysavers. A daytripper is very tempting though, using the Claribels 71 to Marston for an onwards train - the added bonus of Claribels over NXWM is that they can issue a legible ticket! (with widescale daysaver fraud in the area, I get exceedingly p!ssed off by paying for an illegible 'not seen ink in years' ticket from NXWM).

Admittedly, I did jump on a 97A this morning, but there was the attraction of a nice new Chinese frame on the deck at BHX to entice me!

I was at the airport to see it depart.
I live in Harborne, used to use the 29/A when I wasn't driving it. Got the 647 that runs by me but not been on that route since TWM stopped running it. I usually walk to Birmingham City Centre
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: busfan2847 on July 30, 2014, 02:48:17 AM
My family lived at the Maypole (many years of catching 48 and 50 from Birmingham Standard days, then 50 and 50Y)

Now live in Arlington Heights IL. Closest bus route (Pace 234) is 2.5m from where I live, usually operated by 40' Orion VI low floors or 30' El Dorado EZ-Riders. Catch that route maybe once a year or so (only operates 1 hour or less M-F only)!

I work at University of Illinois at Chicago just outside downtown Chicago. Drive to the local suburban rail station (Metra) and take the Union Pacific Northwest Line into Chicago and then the 157 Streeterville-Taylor route to the University. Was TMC RTS and Flxible Metros now New Flyer D40LF diesels or DE40LF hybrids.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Mike K on July 30, 2014, 08:47:20 AM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on July 30, 2014, 02:13:18 AM
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 30, 2014, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: JB93 on July 29, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
I never bother with trains to be honest, I've got Lea Hall Station about a 10 minute walk away or Marston Green about a 20 minute walk, but by the time I've got to the train station and waited for a train I could be halfway there on a bus :P

You must be in my neck of the woods, but i'll choose the train over the bus wherever possible. Now there's only one op on the 97, I find the service woeful. I'd rather walk 20 mins to Marston Green for the semi to New St (as little as a 6 minute journey on a good day). Off peak local train journeys are ridiculously cheap - eg Lea Hall - Stechford return for less than a single bus ride, Lea Hall - New St return for £2.60, or Marston - Coventry return for less than £3.

I don't travel frequently enough to justify a pass & rarely bother with daysavers. A daytripper is very tempting though, using the Claribels 71 to Marston for an onwards train - the added bonus of Claribels over NXWM is that they can issue a legible ticket! (with widescale daysaver fraud in the area, I get exceedingly p!ssed off by paying for an illegible 'not seen ink in years' ticket from NXWM).

Admittedly, I did jump on a 97A this morning, but there was the attraction of a nice new Chinese frame on the deck at BHX to entice me!

I was at the airport to see it depart.
I live in Harborne, used to use the 29/A when I wasn't driving it. Got the 647 that runs by me but not been on that route since TWM stopped running it. I usually walk to Birmingham City Centre

I also live in Harborne, close to the golf courses so it's the 22/23 or 99 for me, although don't often use the 99. Outer Circle and other Harborne services are 10-15 min walk away. Use the bus less frequently than I used to due to company car / requirement to travel with work.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Westy on July 30, 2014, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 29, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
I live in Cannock on the Longford estate, youve got the stupidly timed Select ( formerly arriva and previously midland and before that Warstone) 67 to wolves from my road. Further up into the estate the Arriva no 2 service operates to walsall daytimes only ( not for much longer apparently once it gets sapphired). About 10 mins walk around the corneryou have the 68 from by national tyres daytime & evenings, and the evening 2s to walsall. The select is lways run by and the arriva are often run by mpd darts. Apart from an evening when,  bizarrely they often put a full sized pulsar or commander on!

Your Lucky Bob. Hawks Green Estate where I live hasn't got any buses (Had TWM 345/349 when I moved in!) Not too far to walk to Cross Keys for 60/62, but I prefer to walk all the way to Hednesford for trains.

Haven't been that way for ages, but I thought Arriva 33 went that way?
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Westy on July 30, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
I live on the Leamore section of the Arriva daytime 2/2a & Nx x51 peaks, but normally catch Nx 301 / 302 on the Bloxwich Road!
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Ronnoc on September 30, 2014, 04:03:52 PM
I live in Sparkbrook, near Stratford Road. My nearest route is the route 3, I get on that and I get on the 2. My local routes are 8A/C, 2, 3, 5, 6, X20 and the old 36.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: 4484 on September 30, 2014, 04:49:34 PM
I live in Kingstanding and my local routes are the 5 & 33 or if i walk down to the circle i can choose from the 56,  934 ,935 or the 936.
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2014, 06:01:17 PM
I live in Willenhall, just off Bloxwich Road South and my local routes are the 25A/25C, 28, 41, with the 25A being the route i use to get to school of a morning
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Bob on October 01, 2014, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 29, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
I live in Cannock on the Longford estate, youve got the stupidly timed Select ( formerly arriva and previously midland and before that Warstone) 67 to wolves from my road. Further up into the estate the Arriva no 2 service operates to walsall daytimes only ( not for much longer apparently once it gets sapphired). About 10 mins walk around the corneryou have the 68 from by national tyres daytime & evenings, and the evening 2s to walsall. The select is lways run by and the arriva are often run by mpd darts. Apart from an evening when,  bizarrely they often put a full sized pulsar or commander on!

Your Lucky Bob. Hawks Green Estate where I live hasn't got any buses (Had TWM 345/349 when I moved in!) Not too far to walk to Cross Keys for 60/62, but I prefer to walk all the way to Hednesford for trains.

Hawks green tony? I always thought that was the estate by tesco? Withthe 33?
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Tony on October 02, 2014, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Bob on October 01, 2014, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 29, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
I live in Cannock on the Longford estate, youve got the stupidly timed Select ( formerly arriva and previously midland and before that Warstone) 67 to wolves from my road. Further up into the estate the Arriva no 2 service operates to walsall daytimes only ( not for much longer apparently once it gets sapphired). About 10 mins walk around the corneryou have the 68 from by national tyres daytime & evenings, and the evening 2s to walsall. The select is lways run by and the arriva are often run by mpd darts. Apart from an evening when,  bizarrely they often put a full sized pulsar or commander on!

Your Lucky Bob. Hawks Green Estate where I live hasn't got any buses (Had TWM 345/349 when I moved in!) Not too far to walk to Cross Keys for 60/62, but I prefer to walk all the way to Hednesford for trains.

Hawks green tony? I always thought that was the estate by tesco? Withthe 33?

I'm right at the Hemlock Way end. The 60 stop at the Cross Keys is closer than the 33 at Tesco. The 345/349 used to go along Sidon Hill Way with a stop at the end of my road. The original 23 also went through
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Bob on October 02, 2014, 05:10:26 PM
Did the 952 used to as well? Shame about those 345/349 they didn't seem to last. I remember it being one of the last times wmt attempted a big reorganisation of services.  There was a timetable booklet with all the cannock and Hednesford services on which was great. It oddly included the 51 if I remember correctly?  It also coincided with the 350 having deckers introduced due to using the higher of the two bridges at church bridge instead of the one the number 1 uses today?
Title: Re: Where do you live and what buses do you use?
Post by: Kevin on October 03, 2014, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Bob on October 02, 2014, 05:10:26 PM
Did the 952 used to as well? Shame about those 345/349 they didn't seem to last. I remember it being one of the last times wmt attempted a big reorganisation of services.  There was a timetable booklet with all the cannock and Hednesford services on which was great. It oddly included the 51 if I remember correctly?  It also coincided with the 350 having deckers introduced due to using the higher of the two bridges at church bridge instead of the one the number 1 uses today?

Got that leaflet, guessing it included the 51 as a "this is how you get to Birmingham once you get to Walsall" section