http://www.dudleynews.co.uk/news/11334549.Motorists_face_two_weeks_of_delays_in_Quarry_Bank/
I assume that means diversions of Forge Lane, Netherend Road, Bower Lane and Park Road which can, hopefully, accommodate deckers - i know there's no low bridge
Or via Dudley Wood Road :-)
Haha, even more trouble for the 241!
Interesting. For the sake of coping with traffic, St Annes Road, Quarry Road and Coppice Lane would be the most sensible diversion to me. Lots of parked cars and smaller roads around Park Road etc.
However, in the interest of serving the shops, the Park Road diversion is most likely imo. However towards Cradley, the road will remain open.
Quote from: Matt on July 12, 2014, 03:43:22 PM
Haha, even more trouble for the 241!
and 53/141/4m
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 12, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
I assume that means diversions of Forge Lane, Netherend Road, Bower Lane and Park Road which can, hopefully, accommodate deckers - i know there's no low bridge
Or via Dudley Wood Road :-)
low trees and a 7.5 tonne weight limit
At least the 243 don't need to be diverted
@karl724223 Does bobs coppice walk then bower lane have the weight restriction? (old 210, 211 & 212 now 213, 214 route) or is it all the way up to the church on Netherend from park Lane junction bower lane?
Wouldn't be safe to send deckers round the old 210 route
Bower lane weight limit
Roads narrow round that area
Usually when the high st is closed for some reason such as an accident, buses use Coppice Lane and Quarry Road but I didn't know if circumstances will be different on this case due to the prolonged nature of the closure.
There is no weight limit along Dudley Wood that would affect a PSV plus the 141 used to use it. Quarry road would be the best diversion though it's a lot of traffic to use bower lane
Anyone know the diversion route yet?
Will the 213, 214 be affected?
Quote from: s94 on July 15, 2014, 11:15:35 PM
Anyone know the diversion route yet?
Light Vehicles via maypole fields
Heavy vehicles via Dudley Wood Road according to my sources
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 16, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
Will the 213, 214 be affected?
Not as far as I'm aware.
Thanks trainbasher. So it seems to expect the 4M, 53, 141, 241 go via Dudley Wood and Coppice Lane. Wonder if the 002 will do the same. Would expect the 208 and 004 to go via park road etc. 282 will have to either do a loop around woodland avenue or just carry straight along Coppice Lane to Merry Hill.
Quote from: s94 on July 16, 2014, 01:40:07 AM
Thanks trainbasher. So it seems to expect the 4M, 53, 141, 241 go via Dudley Wood and Coppice Lane. Wonder if the 002 will do the same. Would expect the 208 and 004 to go via park road etc. 282 will have to either do a loop around woodland avenue or just carry straight along Coppice Lane to Merry Hill.
I expect the 002 to follow the 243 route along with the 004. The 208 I assume will probably do a double run along Dudley Wood Road however that is merely a guess. The 282 I think
may just avoid Quarry Bank, or do Woodland Ave then via the diversion, but I am not sure as the final trip from Gornal Wood terminates Quaary Bank anyway so with that I am not sure, but there again the road should be open for it then to terminate on the High Street on the final run.
In fact, IIRC when the last bout of closure in Quarry Bank High Street occurred, the 002 followed the 243 anyway so I assume it will be the same, although I know a DAF or a B7RLE can get down the 213/214 section round QB as Diamond allocated a DAF to the 214 once when they ran it!
Signs at either end of the high street now indicate the commencement of these works (28th July). It does say its only for 1 week though not 2 as said via the media but that may just be the resurfacing part only.
There's 2 closures, the first one being 3 days of 9 - 3.30 for 3-4 days and the second one being a couple of overnight closures from the emails I've had at work.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 20, 2014, 12:06:32 AM
There's 2 closures, the first one being 3 days of 9 - 3.30 for 3-4 days and the second one being a couple of overnight closures from the emails I've had at work.
Interesting thanks for that. The press article on the council website suggested one overnight closure only. Maybe they are trying to cram it in more to get it done quicker.
NXWM now have the Diversion on their website: http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/temporary-diversions/quarry-bank-high-street-closure
4M, 53, 141 and 241 will use Forge Lane, Lower High St, St Annes Road, Quarry Road then Coppice Lane to the Boulevard.
Diversion 9.30-3.30 every day on Monday 28th, Tuesday 29th, Wednesday 30th, Thursday 31st and Monday 4th August. The Diversion should also follow the other way for the night closures if they go ahead as planned.
243 will be as normal. Just to wonder what the 002, 004 and 208 will do now.
Don't suppose anyone found out/knows what Diversion the 002,004 and 208 will be given this closure begins tomorrow? Nothing on the Diamond bus website which is surprising as it affects the popular 002. The 282 is also affected for them. My guess is probably using Park Road etc, not following the NXWM diversion.
002 is following the NXWM diversion according to the website.
I would have thought that the 002 would have been more logical to divert via the 243, or at worst the 213 route
No sign of diamond using their advertised diversion route so far! So maybe they have reverted to Park road.
Diversion came on at 0900 today not 0930 so a 53 had to go up bower lane good job it was a single decker and the road was reopen by 1345
Quote from: karl724223 on July 28, 2014, 08:54:02 PM
Diversion came on at 0900 today not 0930 so a 53 had to go up bower lane good job it was a single decker and the road was reopen by 1345
Blimey they finished early for the day! lol
And yes good job the 53 was a single deck!
Dont know why Diamond didnt stick to their advertised diversion though.
Road open by 1330 today there getting quicker
Both the 2110 208 and 2115 4M both followed the Maypole Fields diversion (the 208 did because he followed the signed diversion and the 4M did because he got lost!!)
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 01, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
Both the 2110 208 and 2115 4M both followed the Maypole Fields diversion (the 208 did because he followed the signed diversion and the 4M did because he got lost!!)
Hansons and the first Arriva 208 at least seemed to be using Coppice Lane this evening. All other NXWM buses have been using the normal diversion. However the diversion has been very poorly signposted. Tonight I don't think there any signs warning Large Vehicles in particular that the High street is closed and they should divert. Large vehicles should not be using Park Road etc really should they?
Wonder if all the works will finish on time with the rain due tonight. Though 1 more closure is due on Monday daytime.
Diversions like this still make me wonder just why so many buses all use Quarry Bank High St during normal times, particularly when many are just passing to/from Merry Hill. The frequency of buses along there means often no more than a single deck is needed on these parts on many of the journeys ive seen. The difference in length/time between the normal and diversion route is very small. Would services like the 208/4M be better avoiding the High St and serve Saltwells/Dudley Wood be better?
Quote from: s94 on August 01, 2014, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 01, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
Both the 2110 208 and 2115 4M both followed the Maypole Fields diversion (the 208 did because he followed the signed diversion and the 4M did because he got lost!!)
Hansons and the first Arriva 208 at least seemed to be using Coppice Lane this evening. All other NXWM buses have been using the normal diversion. However the diversion has been very poorly signposted. Tonight I don't think there any signs warning Large Vehicles in particular that the High street is closed and they should divert. Large vehicles should not be using Park Road etc really should they?
Wonder if all the works will finish on time with the rain due tonight. Though 1 more closure is due on Monday daytime.
Diversions like this still make me wonder just why so many buses all use Quarry Bank High St during normal times, particularly when many are just passing to/from Merry Hill. The frequency of buses along there means often no more than a single deck is needed on these parts on many of the journeys ive seen. The difference in length/time between the normal and diversion route is very small. Would services like the 208/4M be better avoiding the High St and serve Saltwells/Dudley Wood be better?
That means the 208 would have to do a double run along Dudley Wood Road
The 2154 4M ex Cradley went the full length of Dudley Wood Road instead of Quarry Road because "the turns are too tight"
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 01, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: s94 on August 01, 2014, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 01, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
Both the 2110 208 and 2115 4M both followed the Maypole Fields diversion (the 208 did because he followed the signed diversion and the 4M did because he got lost!!)
Hansons and the first Arriva 208 at least seemed to be using Coppice Lane this evening. All other NXWM buses have been using the normal diversion. However the diversion has been very poorly signposted. Tonight I don't think there any signs warning Large Vehicles in particular that the High street is closed and they should divert. Large vehicles should not be using Park Road etc really should they?
Wonder if all the works will finish on time with the rain due tonight. Though 1 more closure is due on Monday daytime.
Diversions like this still make me wonder just why so many buses all use Quarry Bank High St during normal times, particularly when many are just passing to/from Merry Hill. The frequency of buses along there means often no more than a single deck is needed on these parts on many of the journeys ive seen. The difference in length/time between the normal and diversion route is very small. Would services like the 208/4M be better avoiding the High St and serve Saltwells/Dudley Wood be better?
That means the 208 would have to do a double run along Dudley Wood Road
The 2154 4M ex Cradley went the full length of Dudley Wood Road instead of Quarry Road because "the turns are too tight"
True re the 208.
Has any other bus faced problems with the turns? Lol. I presume its at the traffic lights of Saltwells Road/Quarry Road?
At least via this diversion services havent had to deal with traffic lights both at the top of the High St and the ones at the Boulevard which can be time consuming in queues on the high street, instead only the Boulevard lights have had to be dealt with and only the lights which dont take too long on Saltwells/Quarry road. Wonder if it saves much time?
Going via Dudley wood road takes just as long as Quarry Bank, same with Quarry lane.
It certainly was interesting being on a scania going round the tight corners of the 243/Maypole Fields diversion. Personally I would have followed the 213/243 routes out of Cradley because the turn at Maypole Fields.
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 01, 2014, 10:33:49 PM
Going via Dudley wood road takes just as long as Quarry Bank, same with Quarry lane.
It certainly was interesting being on a scania going round the tight corners of the 243/Maypole Fields diversion. Personally I would have followed the 213/243 routes out of Cradley because the turn at Maypole Fields.
Indeed, was going to say the turns around there must be much more difficult than those experienced on the proper diversion! Lol.
Don't know what happened but todays closure never seemed to go ahead despite line painting and anti skid surfacing left to be put down. Has another date been chosen to close the road off or not?
Anyone aware of any further closures for this? As I say still anti skid surfacing and line painting to be done here. Would be difficult to do in the day with parked cars so I presume another night closure is needed?
Not completely related but in the same area, the speed limit of Thorns road is changing from 40mph to 30mph http://www.dudleynews.co.uk/news/11389072.Council_to_put_the_brakes_on_speeding_motorists_in_Quarry_Bank/