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12/06/14 in stratford road Sparkbrook as been reopened due to a bus fire

this is a YW based trident?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=761910907192315&set=a.407401772643232.111602.217353058314772&type=1&theater

this was YW 4341

It's been quite a day for bus fires! I'm no expert, but I'd say arson is a very strong possibility here. (It'll probably be some kind of electrical fault now I've said that!)

The other pictures on the Birmingham Updates page show the bus has been very badly damaged.

Yes a unlucky day today -  a Stagecoach Trident was completely gutted on the M11 and according to the BBC travel website earlier there was a bus fire in Coventry as well.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/bus-bursts-into-flames/

Quote from: Andrew on June 12, 2014, 04:09:31 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/bus-bursts-into-flames/

And that is why the 6 is mainly OmniLink operation!

Quote from: notepanel on June 12, 2014, 04:22:48 PM

Quote from: Andrew on June 12, 2014, 04:09:31 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/bus-bursts-into-flames/

And that is why the 6 is mainly OmniLink operation!

Couldn't agree more - they still have smoking issues with the single decks. A few weeks ago someone was blatantly smoking on the back row, and then someone lit up (whilst sitting in the middle of the bus - yes, not the back!) last week whilst travelling out on a 6; however his mates told him to quickly put it out otherwise the driver would be informed. I hope everyone was alright in this - although why did one of the refurbished ones have to catch fire  ::) Wonder if YW will need to loan in a bus?

Anyone have any info about bus on fire at the university in Coventry ??
Photo suggests it could be a NXWM bus but not in Coventry livery.

@JIM H it's a Stagecoach bus that went up in Coventry

Since the 2/3(/A) frequency was cut and tridents brought back, I've been secretly waiting for this to happen (bet your life it was on the 6 now I've said that)... Looks like an open top ALX400 now although if it was just top deck damage I'd have thought it was going to be repaired?

@trident4370 depends on what the rozzers say

Video and more pictures here:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/video-dramatic-moment-firefighters-battle-7259220

Express & Star report linked to above says it was a 6.

Went past just on my way home, the bus has been removed now (what was left of it anyway), bus shelter is badly damaged and is closed off.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 6 either, glad I don't have to use Stratford Road buses anymore. The more pictures I see though the worse it looks, the fire really took hold didn't it :(

4341 has been towed by mansfield to birmingham central

Quote from: trident4370 on June 12, 2014, 06:17:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 6 either, glad I don't have to use Stratford Road buses anymore. The more pictures I see though the worse it looks, the fire really took hold didn't it :(

It was on the 2

Just goes to show don't believe everything the papers say

Lot of people commenting on posts on Facebook pointing the finger at someone smoking being the cause of this; I suppose it could be possible if someone doused all the seats on the top deck with petrol!

Is the CCTV recording equipment housed downstairs? Will be interesting to see the footage of this one if its escaped the blaze. Surely someone on the bus must have witnessed something?

if it is "arson", they should find them & get them to pay for the damage (well they could take a proportion of their benefit).

QuoteI hope everyone was alright in this - although why did one of the refurbished ones have to catch fire  ::) Wonder if YW will need to loan in a bus?

I'd imagine they'll need a permanent replacement, can't see that seeing service again.

Convert it to single decker like 1956😂

Quote from: Mike K on June 12, 2014, 09:00:19 PM

QuoteI hope everyone was alright in this - although why did one of the refurbished ones have to catch fire  ::) Wonder if YW will need to loan in a bus?

I'd imagine they'll need a permanent replacement, can't see that seeing service again.

Me neither, I dought very much 4341 will be returning. Very similar damage to 4014, and that was only 2 years old when it expired

At least there is a replacement engine now for 4135!

I saw it in the flesh being towed. It had absolutely nothing regarding upper saloon roofing, the front upper window had a sheet covering it like a murder scene (obviously not, but you get the idea) and everything was totally gutted upstairs, only wafer thin metal of the seat frames had survived.

The Curse of the Presidents seems to have been passed onto the Tridents now... The famous ones being 4218, 4336, 4613 and now 4341

4341 looks in an awful state - doesn't look like it will be coming back.

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If anyone wants to know, the Stagecoach London Trident fire on the M11 was 17563 'LV52 HDU'.

Heading north to Glasgow with two others for the Commonwealth Games

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/you-wait-day-bus-fire-3682137

Police appeal for witnesses and reveal two teenage boys are believed to have started the fire:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/witnesses-sought-after-150000-arson-7268431

£150,000 damage to a 12 year old Trident? Not quite sure where that figure would have come from! I know it had been fairly recently refurbished but surely was no where near that value, maybe they've just Googled the price to buy it brand new

Has 4341 followed in the footsteps of 4336 or will this one be saved?

Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on June 14, 2014, 01:01:00 PM
£150,000 damage to a 12 year old Trident? Not quite sure where that figure would have come from! I know it had been fairly recently refurbished but surely was no where near that value, maybe they've just Googled the price to buy it brand new

I guess as the bus will be written off, £150,000 would be the cost to replace it.

Looks like Fires are getting spread around the groups.

First bus today
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-TRAFFIC-Bus-closes-Kingswood-high-street/story-21249009-detail/story.html

Update: CCTV images have been found. Says the bus is a write off.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-police-release-7326536

Quote from: P419 EJW on June 25, 2014, 07:30:13 PM
Update: CCTV images have been found. Says the bus is a write off.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-police-release-7326536

If they are to blame (everyone is innocent until proven guilty), lets hope they are quickly found and that they are punished for what they have done, after all someone could have been severly injured or worse in that fire!!!

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 25, 2014, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: P419 EJW on June 25, 2014, 07:30:13 PM
Update: CCTV images have been found. Says the bus is a write off.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-police-release-7326536

If they are to blame (everyone is innocent until proven guilty), lets hope they are quickly found and that they are punished for what they have done, after all someone could have been severly injured or worse in that fire!!!

They look like they should of been in school, the school and truancy officers may be on to them too once they see this

Update: Two teenagers arrested.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-two-teenagers-7408621

Quote from: P419 EJW on July 11, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
Update: Two teenagers arrested.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-two-teenagers-7408621

Good the scumbags have been caught.

Quote from: Rob on July 11, 2014, 02:36:39 PM

Quote from: P419 EJW on July 11, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
Update: Two teenagers arrested.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-two-teenagers-7408621 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-two-teenagers-7408621)

Good the scumbags have been caught.

I wouldn't call them scumbags. To me they look like two misunderstood young gentlemen who need a bit of guidance to get them onto the right path in their life. It's such a shame young men like this have to resort to such disgusting acts of violence and pointless vandalism to get attention they lack from within their own household due to lack of care from the parent(s).

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Hahaha, f*ck that. Put the scumbags down, all they're doing is wasting oxygen.

Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 11, 2014, 02:56:26 PM

Quote from: Rob on July 11, 2014, 02:36:39 PM

Quote from: P419 EJW on July 11, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
Update: Two teenagers arrested.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-two-teenagers-7408621 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sparkbrook-bus-fire-two-teenagers-7408621)

Good the scumbags have been caught.

I wouldn't call them scumbags. To me they look like two misunderstood young gentlemen who need a bit of guidance to get them onto the right path in their life. It's such a shame young men like this have to resort to such disgusting acts of violence and pointless vandalism to get attention they lack from within their own household due to lack of care from the parent(s).

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Hahaha, f*ck that. Put the scumbags down, all they're doing is wasting oxygen.

Brilliantly said, @Liverpool Street! 😂😂

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If only we had the death penalty...

Although my daily mail headline generator would probably come up with

QuoteHigh Immigration levels causes boys to be arrested for self expression

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-28671571

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 06, 2014, 10:37:44 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-28671571

Let me guess... A couple of ASBO's and 100hrs community service? No point in making them pay court costs either I expect cuz they picked up nuffink from them 'basterds at the job centre' ......

Update: Stratford Road bus fire: Teens who laughed as they torched double decker caught after Birmingham Mail appeal.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/stratford-road-bus-fire-teens-8083365

Quote from: P419 EJW on November 10, 2014, 03:21:34 PM
Update: Stratford Road bus fire: Teens who laughed as they torched double decker caught after Birmingham Mail appeal.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/stratford-road-bus-fire-teens-8083365

And lock the father up as well, almost restores your faith in the justice system

He was never going to name the kids but he should have named and shamed the father, fancy setting that kind of an example to your kids that it is ok to break the law. Hope they all enjoy the Winson Green Premier Inn.

Birmingham Mail released a video of the CCTV recording the fire inside the bus.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-stratford-road-bus-fire-8084696

Quote from: P419 EJW on November 10, 2014, 03:21:34 PM
Update: Stratford Road bus fire: Teens who laughed as they torched double decker caught after Birmingham Mail appeal.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/stratford-road-bus-fire-teens-8083365

QuoteEight passengers fled the No.2 National Express Maypole to city centre service as it was engulfed in flames in Stratford Road, Acocks Green.

The Birmingham Mail's geography does leave a lot to be desired sometimes!  :o

Sentence not long enough. 5 years it should be minimum.

Oh and they have learning difficulties and autism apparently.
~ so do members of this forum but they dont set any buses on fire. . .

Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

Question
Do You
A) Make sure everyone is safe including yourself and stand at a safe distance.
B) Stand within a metre of a burning top deck with a fire extinguisher that will run out way before you have extinguished the fire risking your own life in the off-chance you might make the damage slightly less?

If you answer B you qualify to be taken away by the men in white coats.

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 08:35:39 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

Question
Do You
A) Make sure everyone is safe including yourself and stand at a safe distance.
B) Stand within a metre of a burning top deck with a fire extinguisher that will run out way before you have extinguished the fire risking your own life in the off-chance you might make the damage slightly less?

If you answer B you qualify to be taken away by the men in white coats.

I was gonna answer 3).

Where do I stand regarding the men in white coats? This'll be my 4th time this year!! Haha

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 10:01:16 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 08:35:39 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

Question
Do You
A) Make sure everyone is safe including yourself and stand at a safe distance.
B) Stand within a metre of a burning top deck with a fire extinguisher that will run out way before you have extinguished the fire risking your own life in the off-chance you might make the damage slightly less?

If you answer B you qualify to be taken away by the men in white coats.

I was gonna answer 3).

Where do I stand regarding the men in white coats? This'll be my 4th time this year!! Haha

I'd say there be atleast some new security guards on buses. I wonder what a bus would be like with a sprinkler system, or even a fire alarm.

I've said for a while buses should carry some kind of smoke detector system upstairs, not for fires well yes that aswell but to detect smokers and enable drivers to report the problem(or maybe they already do and we don't know about it!). A sprinkler system is just asking for trouble you'd get chavs holding lighters up just to flood the buses "for a laugh". As for security guards I'm not really sure NX would or should have to effectively pay to have the buses policed,  if anything this incident should highlight the case for a higher police presence on all public transport but again it all costs money and with all the cuts of late It won't happen.

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

No one died  no one was injured. Wishing death upon someone is harsh to say the least!

Quote from: Gareth on November 11, 2014, 03:01:30 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

No one died  no one was injured. Wishing death upon someone is harsh to say the least!

You say that but they knew full well people might die as a result of their actions, they left the bus laughing knowing that. Had the driver not been alerted and left the stop as normal who knows what could have happened. They deserve everything they get and more.

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 11, 2014, 06:14:22 AM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 10:01:16 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 08:35:39 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

Question
Do You
A) Make sure everyone is safe including yourself and stand at a safe distance.
B) Stand within a metre of a burning top deck with a fire extinguisher that will run out way before you have extinguished the fire risking your own life in the off-chance you might make the damage slightly less?

If you answer B you qualify to be taken away by the men in white coats.

I was gonna answer 3).

Where do I stand regarding the men in white coats? This'll be my 4th time this year!! Haha

I'd say there be atleast some new security guards on buses. I wonder what a bus would be like with a sprinkler system, or even a fire alarm.

Security guards? How about just a bit of respect for the driver?

Quote from: Gareth on November 11, 2014, 03:01:30 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

No one died  no one was injured. Wishing death upon someone is harsh to say the least!

True but, I wonder what public opinion would be if these two scumbags actually did die from their own actions? Probably come out in sympathy "ohh they were just misunderstood young boys" . Would NOT get that from me I tell you that much. Pointless violence and destruction like this should be punishable harshly. What ever happened childish innocence and such fun things as "knock door run" - now that's a game we all enjoyed! Poor old Mr. Arnold from 76, I got him a treat as a nipper! Bottle base glasses and two walking sticks. Poor old fool. I ended up doing gardening for him for punishment. Boy did I get sweaty that summer. And the belt 5 times from the old man whilst he was laughing at the stories I was telling him. Haha

Quote from: trident4370 on November 11, 2014, 04:10:12 PM

Quote from: Gareth on November 11, 2014, 03:01:30 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Well, I hope they die the same way. I swear! Did the driver EVEN use the fire extinguisher RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS CAB?

No one died  no one was injured. Wishing death upon someone is harsh to say the least!

You say that but they knew full well people might die as a result of their actions, they left the bus laughing knowing that. Had the driver not been alerted and left the stop as normal who knows what could have happened. They deserve everything they get and more.

Yeah a longer sentence should of been impositions to say the very least.