I wondered how often buses get switched between routes during the day.
For example, today in West Bromwich at about 11 a.m. Merc 1697 arrived driven by an engineer from depot who then took an ALX400 off the 80 and headed back towards depot. Then Gemini 4521 came in as a 5 and was switched to route 80 and 1697 took up duties on 5.
Has anybody else had expereince of such changes?
I have seen this a few times.
Last week i saw 2009 on another route (possibly the 2) around 17:30 and then a few hours later my friend matt (Nitromatt1) caught it on the 59.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 02, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
I wondered how often buses get switched between routes during the day.
For example, today in West Bromwich at about 11 a.m. Merc 1697 arrived driven by an engineer from depot who then took an ALX400 off the 80 and headed back towards depot. Then Gemini 4521 came in as a 5 and was switched to route 80 and 1697 took up duties on 5.
Has anybody else had expereince of such changes?
WB obviously knew that you couldn't use 1697 on the 80 because of emission zone, so a double change was required. Presumably 1697 was the only spare bus that WB had.
2098 was on an unusual working of the 276 this morning, but when I rode it this evening, it had been switched onto another unusual working of the 243/4!
Thats a bit of an odd swap there from the 276 to the 243/4- thought it might have stayed on for the rest of the day. These days there seems to be 1 maybe 2 B7RLE on the 276 most days excluding Sunday when every journey has one.
243/244 are on 276 running boards on an evening
Quote from: fleetline6477 link=topic=1541.msg33422#msg33422
WB obviously knew that you couldn't use 1697 on the 80 because of emission zone, so a double change was required. Presumably 1697 was the only spare bus that WB had.
WB's mercs are allowed in town aren't they? Or are only some of them allowed like diamond's MPD'S
Quote from: dgss1 on April 05, 2013, 07:55:46 AM
Quote from: fleetline6477 link=topic=1541.msg33422#msg33422
WB obviously knew that you couldn't use 1697 on the 80 because of emission zone, so a double change was required. Presumably 1697 was the only spare bus that WB had.
WB's mercs are allowed in town aren't they? Or are only some of them allowed like diamond's MPD'S
How does this emissions rule work? PE put 1521 on the 120 the other day
Quote from: s94 on April 04, 2013, 11:56:45 PM
Thats a bit of an odd swap there from the 276 to the 243/4- thought it might have stayed on for the rest of the day. These days there seems to be 1 maybe 2 B7RLE on the 276 most days excluding Sunday when every journey has one.
There have been mercs on the 276 for the past few sundays.
Certainly Bank Holiday Monday there were a few mercs about but the last two sundays ive seen all B7RLE's but I might have missed any Mercs.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 05, 2013, 08:04:15 AM
Quote from: dgss1 on April 05, 2013, 07:55:46 AM
Quote from: fleetline6477 link=topic=1541.msg33422#msg33422
WB obviously knew that you couldn't use 1697 on the 80 because of emission zone, so a double change was required. Presumably 1697 was the only spare bus that WB had.
WB's mercs are allowed in town aren't they? Or are only some of them allowed like diamond's MPD'S
How does this emissions rule work? PE put 1521 on the 120 the other day
As I understand it, it was supposed to be similar to the Congestion zone in London, where cameras would be set up on all entrances to the emission zone, with operators receiving a fixed penalty for using non-compliant vehicles from B'ham City Council, whether that is now in operation, I'm not sure...
Well regarding diamond I think the bus that comes of their 67 service (Yew Tree to Wednesbury) then works a peak time 56 service as most of the times the 67 is either a solo or mpd it's ideal with the emission ruling even if it is too small for the 56 service although it works along with the centro's that have been on the 56 all day.
Winston, have any bus company's been fined before?
Quote from: dgss1 on April 05, 2013, 10:00:08 PM
Winston, have any bus company's been fined before?
Pass, I wouldn't know
4013 was on 59 this morning and this afternoon when i saw it around 13:30 but
Around 17:00 i saw it on the 27!
Last Sunday there were mercs out on the 297E. Which routes don't see B7RLE's on Sundays except;
PE; 9, 141
WN; 126 ?
Quote from: NathanJC on April 06, 2013, 07:31:12 PM
Last Sunday there were mercs out on the 297E. Which routes don't see B7RLE's on Sundays except;
PE; 9, 141
WN; 126 ?
PE:246 (Enviro 400)
WN: 32/33/79(All interwork), 59,126,529 have tridents
62 (1 B6LE)
The 243/4 should be B6LE with the odd Merc on Sunday.
As far as I know, except the 297/A/E and the 276, all PE routes which usually get Mercs still get Mercs on a Sunday
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 06, 2013, 09:10:41 PM
The 243/4 should be B6LE with the odd Merc on Sunday.
As far as I know, except the 297/A/E and the 276, all PE routes which usually get Mercs still get Mercs on a Sunday
297 and 297A don't even operate on sundays do they?. Just the 297E from halesowen to merry hill
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 06, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 06, 2013, 09:10:41 PM
The 243/4 should be B6LE with the odd Merc on Sunday.
As far as I know, except the 297/A/E and the 276, all PE routes which usually get Mercs still get Mercs on a Sunday
297 and 297A don't even operate on sundays do they?. Just the 297E from halesowen to merry hill
Yes, short workings of the 297, numbered 297E
4800 was on the 9 this morning, but saw it again this evening on the 140/241.
The last time it was on that route, the hills towards Dudley absolutely killed it, as 4800 is by far the slowest PE Enviro400
Two vehicle swaps in Wolverhampton today:
1679 displaying 81 on rear destination which went onto the 2!
Secondly 4540 has been on the 25/25A today but went onto Metro Replacent at 17:10.1650 replaced 4540 on the 25.
A couple in Wolverhampton today:
Firstly 2062 was on an unusual working of route 28 then not so long back it went onto another unusual working of the 126!
Also this is the best one! 5513 was on the 1 this morning then it sneaked onto the 529!!!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 12, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
A couple in Wolverhampton today:
Firstly 2062 was on an unusual working of route 28 then not so long back it went onto another unusual working of the 126!
Also this is the best one! 5513 was on the 1 this morning then it sneaked onto the 529!!!
Good spots. :)
2062 probably got changed because of a 126 breakdown, and 0405N and Spectra and the B6LE and Excel can't go on there because of the emissions.
Does anyone know what went onto the 28 in its place?
Think that was the first WN hybrid to go on a route other than the 1.
Yes it is the the first time a hybrid has been on another route
I saw 2062 in Wolverhampton bus station On the 126 around 18:45 so the NX 28 service would of just finished service.
By the way, I'm almost certain that the 243/4 interworks with the 276 in the evening now (not just one running board), so seeing a vehicle swap between these routes at Dudley is normal
Saturday
1764 - Daytime service (4/H/M), then later appeared on the 10A service before running out of service to Walsall Garage
2078 was on the 141 first thing yesterday morning, but then saw it on the 140/241 in the evening
Also, since a 1-branded E400H was sighted on the 126 late last night, I wonder if a vehicle swap had occurred between the 1 and 126?
I saw and photographed B6LE 569 on the 5 in Sutton Yesterday. I then saw it on the 45 in Walsall later in the day.
Is this working a peak time bus on the 5, and then goes onto the 45 for the rest of the day. Or did it replace a defective bus on the 45, and a double decker replaced 569 on the 5.
Funnily enough, 569 is out on the afternoon peak on the 5 again today. This came straight out the garage though, not off another route.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 30, 2013, 01:54:01 PM
2078 was on the 141 first thing yesterday morning, but then saw it on the 140/241 in the evening
Also, since a 1-branded E400H was sighted on the 126 late last night, I wonder if a vehicle swap had occurred between the 1 and 126?
May not be linked but 4311 was on the 1 yesterday
Quote from: trainbasher on April 30, 2013, 05:37:42 PM
Wrong thread
If you mean The unusual workings thread i already posted it there.
Just saying there could of been a vehicle swop with a E400H on the 126
I saw 2153 on the 18/A with peak times in Tile Hill then working on the 20/A/E till around 6pm and 7pm then return to garage and few a minute then back on the 6 night!
I don't know if this is the norm but when I've been in sutton in late afternoons, whether this is normal I don't know but one day 4238 came off a 907 and went onto a 904 then the other day 4731 came off a 914 and went on a 907
5510 on the 59 all day yesterday, Caught it at 17:00 to Wolverhampton then reported by Driver03 as on the 79 at 18:05
Yesterday, 6017 was working on the 21 start 07:40 till 7pm and when 6017 arrive to Hales St and changes the 4414 back on the 21 in all night. 6017 getting back to garage for more more rest. I heard driver been swore because engineer swap but he love drive the bendibuses.
There's a weekday 21 running board where a citaro is allocate anyway, think its just for the daytimes, I'd much rather have the decker
4555 was apparently on the 59 earlier, but then moved onto the 1! Most likely covering for 5415 which I saw broken down on the Wolverhampton Road just before 6
Quote from: nitromatt1 on May 10, 2013, 11:07:58 PM
4555 was apparently on the 59 earlier, but then moved onto the 1! Most likely covering for 5415 which I saw broken down on the Wolverhampton Road just before 6
Yes 4555 was definetly on the 59 about 1-2 hours before you saw it on the 1
1628 was on the 53/289 today, but went onto the X96 this evening replacing broken-down 1644
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 02, 2013, 09:30:22 PM
I don't know if this is the norm but when I've been in sutton in late afternoons, whether this is normal I don't know but one day 4238 came off a 907 and went onto a 904 then the other day 4731 came off a 914 and went on a 907
I think some of them do interwork but of an evening, so doesn't quite explain that
Saw 4828 on either the 9 or 246 this morning (think 9), then rode it on the 141 this evening!
Nath saw 4820 earlier today on the 141 in Broad Street, but I've just seen it on the 9
Ignore that, I read his message wrong ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 05, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
Nath saw 4820 earlier today on the 141 in Broad Street, but I've just seen it on the 9
As matt said he read the message wrong. I did definetly remember seeing 4820 on the 9.
4607 on the 32/33/79 today but i saw it on the 529 this evening around 20:15 this eveing in Wolverhampton
2012 on the 59 today and still on at around 18:30 but i then.saw it do the 20:00 25 departure from Wolverhampton
4016 on the 59 but i spotted it not long back on a rare working of WN26
5514 on the 59 but i caught it on a rare working of a 27A (Spotted it less than an hour before on the 59) Left 17:15 to Dudley.
Saw 2086 on the 9 this morning but it's gone onto the 140/241 now
5511 on the 59 today but replaced a breakdown on the 27
555 seen on the 28 earlier but then in Wolverhampton at 17:40 displaying 26 to Bilston
4804 is on the 9 this evening, but according to Nath it was on the 276 earlier.
Also, 2029 is on the 59, but was on the 81 earlier
Seems to be a lot of swapping going on today!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 29, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
4804 is on the 9 this evening, but according to Nath it was on the 276 earlier.
Also, 2029 is on the 59, but was on the 81 earlier
Seems to be a lot of swapping going on today!
Along with 555 from the 28 to 26 and 5511 from the 59 to 27 as we reported on here earlier. What is it with WN garage today ?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 29, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
4804 is on the 9 this evening, but according to Nath it was on the 276 earlier.
Also, 2029 is on the 59, but was on the 81 earlier
Seems to be a lot of swapping going on today!
Along with 555 from the 28 to 26 and 5511 from the 59 to 27 as we reported on here earlier. What is it with WN garage today ?
Not just WN garage if 4804 has jumped ship from the 276 to the 9
5510 was taken off the 59 and put onto the 255 around 17:30 in Wolverhampton this evening!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
5510 was taken off the 59 and put onto the 255 around 17:30 in Wolverhampton this evening!
I Didn't know journeys on the 59 did 255/256 journeys ?
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
5510 was taken off the 59 and put onto the 255 around 17:30 in Wolverhampton this evening!
I Didn't know journeys on the 59 did 255/256 journeys ?
The 255 and 256 don't interwork
4021 came into Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 255 but appeared to have a defect, so was replaced by 5510 which had also just arrived on the 59.
When replacement buses are needed, they are usually taken off the 59 as it is the most frequent WN route.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
5510 was taken off the 59 and put onto the 255 around 17:30 in Wolverhampton this evening!
I Didn't know journeys on the 59 did 255/256 journeys ?
The 255 and 256 don't interwork
When replacement buses are needed, they are usually taken off the 59 as it is the most frequent WN route.
I thought the 255/256 interworked in Wolverhampton Bus Stn
Ohh I see thanks.
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:18:58 PM
I thought the 255/256 interworked in Wolverhampton Bus Stn
256/257 interwork in Stourbridge. The 255 does a trip from Wolverhampton, to Merry Hill, then to Wall Heath on the 255E, back to Merry Hill and then a full 255 back to Wolverhampton
Quote from: John on July 31, 2013, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:18:58 PM
I thought the 255/256 interworked in Wolverhampton Bus Stn
256/257 interwork in Stourbridge. The 255 does a trip from Wolverhampton, to Merry Hill, then to Wall Heath on the 255E, back to Merry Hill and then a full 255 back to Wolverhampton
Oh Right. I thought the 256/255 interworked in WN my bad 8)
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:18:58 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
5510 was taken off the 59 and put onto the 255 around 17:30 in Wolverhampton this evening!
I Didn't know journeys on the 59 did 255/256 journeys ?
The 255 and 256 don't interwork
When replacement buses are needed, they are usually taken off the 59 as it is the most frequent WN route.
I thought the 255/256 interworked in Wolverhampton Bus Stn
Ohh I see thanks.
Weekdays, 255 and 255E interwork at Merry Hill, and the 256 and 257 interwork at Stourbridge
Sundays, 255 and 255E still interwork at Merry Hill, 256 runs on its own, 257 is run by Arriva
There is some early morning and evening interworking between the 255 and 256 at Wolverhampton. For instance, the 1805 255 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton then operates the 1915 256 to Stourbridge.
Yep, and another I think, to make up for the gaps when the NXWM 257 service stops and Arriva takes over around 7 o'clock
Quote from: NathanJC on July 31, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 31, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
5510 was taken off the 59 and put onto the 255 around 17:30 in Wolverhampton this evening!
I Didn't know journeys on the 59 did 255/256 journeys ?
They don't but with the 59 being rediculously frequent you can take buses off to replace broken down buses on other routes
Is the 59 circular?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
Is the 59 circular?
Technically it is as it loops Ashmore Park but there is a designated terminus on Ashmore Park estate
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
Is the 59 circular?
Technically it is as it loops Ashmore Park but there is a designated terminus on Ashmore Park estate
I wondered that as it is shown on Centro's site as just a single timetable, no out and return.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
Is the 59 circular?
Technically it is as it loops Ashmore Park but there is a designated terminus on Ashmore Park estate
Oh I see, just the way the time table is structured it looks like a mini 11C. How long is one journey? Is that 55minutes in the peak?
And is it clockwise or anti clockwise round the park?
Weird timetable.
Thats wh i've never got 59E's to Ashmore Park estate but thinking about it now they terminate at The Ashmore Pub and don't loop the estate. There is usually layover
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Thats wh i've never got 59E's to Ashmore Park estate but thinking about it now they terminate at The Ashmore Pub and don't loop the estate. There is usually layover
And that's coming from the 59 bloke!! (That's you Nath haha)
No really it is run as a normal service. Also on the running boards its a circlular. It runs clockwise up Griffiths Drive. Actually given just given over an hour at peak and weekday daytime
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Thats wh i've never got 59E's to Ashmore Park estate but thinking about it now they terminate at The Ashmore Pub and don't loop the estate. There is usually layover
And that's coming from the 59 bloke!! (That's you Nath haha)
yes i know ;) 59E is regually displayed by error on full round trips
So really then its 59 - Wolverhampton to Wolverhampton Circular via Ashmore Park and New Cross Hospital?
What's the drop back time at Ashmore/Wolvo
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Thats wh i've never got 59E's to Ashmore Park estate but thinking about it now they terminate at The Ashmore Pub and don't loop the estate. There is usually layover
And that's coming from the 59 bloke!! (That's you Nath haha)
yes i know ;) 59E is regually displayed by error on full round trips
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Thats wh i've never got 59E's to Ashmore Park estate but thinking about it now they terminate at The Ashmore Pub and don't loop the estate. There is usually layover
And that's coming from the 59 bloke!! (That's you Nath haha)
yes i know ;) 59E is regually displayed by error on full round trips
(Sorry about the quotes I don't know what went wrong)
And I don't get how that's done as surely E has to be put up especially?
Not too dissimilar to a route familiar to both of us LS, the 24, insofar as it's a normal route but finishes with a large terminus loop in one direction only. How long is layover on these types of routes? Must be a pain if the bus lays over at the terminus point for several minutes but your stop to get off is 2 or 3 stops further on.
Quote from: Mike K on July 31, 2013, 10:32:11 PM
Must be a pain if the bus lays over at the terminus point for several minutes but your stop to get off is 2 or 3 stops further on.
That was the same with the 952 before the North Birmingham Review. Layover on Hassop Rd for 10 minutes, if you wanted to carry on and get off on Thornbridge Ave, when it used Beeches Rd to get to Hassop Rd. Now it used Thornbridge Ave in both directions
Quote from: Mike K on July 31, 2013, 10:32:11 PM
Not too dissimilar to a route familiar to both of us LS, the 24, insofar as it's a normal route but finishes with a large terminus loop in one direction only. How long is layover on these types of routes? Must be a pain if the bus lays over at the terminus point for several minutes but your stop to get off is 2 or 3 stops further on.
Ahh, I was gonna say that Mike but wasn't sure if it was on the same scale, distance wise.
And its open door policy on the 24 as well. Terrible. Hate that rule.
Quote from: Mike K on July 31, 2013, 10:32:11 PM
Not too dissimilar to a route familiar to both of us LS, the 24, insofar as it's a normal route but finishes with a large terminus loop in one direction only. How long is layover on these types of routes? Must be a pain if the bus lays over at the terminus point for several minutes but your stop to get off is 2 or 3 stops further on.
Yes 59 is like that with a 1 way loop around Ashmore Park
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And its open door policy on the 24 as well. Terrible. Hate that rule.
What's open door policy in that context LS? Whilst on layover at the terminus you have to let people on even before it's time to set off?
Same type of thing happens on WN2 at Bushbury where on sunday there is roughly 10minutes layover but usually lets passengers on even with 8 minute layover
1616 was on the 222 this morning, but saw it in Stourbridge this evening, on the 276!
Can only assume a bus broke down on the 276, at Merry Hill or Dudley, and 1616 had just finished on the 222 so took over
Quote from: Mike K on July 31, 2013, 11:18:50 PM
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And its open door policy on the 24 as well. Terrible. Hate that rule.
What's open door policy in that context LS? Whilst on layover at the terminus you have to let people on even before it's time to set off?
Bingo.
Does Wolverhampton routes 25 and 27 interwork, because I saw 1672 on both today. If not, there is a vehicle swop.
Quote from: John on August 03, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Does Wolverhampton routes 25 and 27 interwork, because I saw 1672 on both today. If not, there is a vehicle swop.
Yes but only evenings and Sundays
Quote from: John on August 03, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Does Wolverhampton routes 25 and 27 interwork, because I saw 1672 on both today. If not, there is a vehicle swop.
If it was in the day then vehicle swap. 25/7 interwork Evenings and Sundays
4542 was on the 59 this morning but John took a photo of it on the 28 today
Nath saw 1642 on the 222 this morning but then I saw it on the X96 later on
5514 on the 59 earlier but moved onto the 25/7 in the evening
5511 was on the 59 but moved onto the 126 tonight
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
4196 was on the 246 today. It then got swapped for an O405N at 3.10 pm that came from garage in Stourbridge and then 4196 worked a 9 into Birmingham
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
I seen that aswell Matt I think it done a swap with 4197 because I seen 4197 pulling on the 246 then swapped onto the 9 and this was about 10:30-10:40 seen this happen while waiting for 1632 on the 276 to Wollaston :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on August 13, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
I seen that aswell Matt I think it done a swap with 4197 because I seen 4197 pulling on the 246 then swapped onto the 9 and this was about 10:30-10:40 seen this happen while waiting for 1632 on the 276 to Wollaston :)
Must have seen you Rob because i was going to catch 4197 to Dudley, however when it transferred to the 9 i walked over and caught it to Birmingham.
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Quote from: Rob4367 on August 13, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
I seen that aswell Matt I think it done a swap with 4197 because I seen 4197 pulling on the 246 then swapped onto the 9 and this was about 10:30-10:40 seen this happen while waiting for 1632 on the 276 to Wollaston :)
Must have seen you Rob because i was going to catch 4197 to Dudley, however when it transferred to the 9 i walked over and caught it to Birmingham.
I was going to my cousins wedding :) I was wearing a blue shirt/blue tie and a black suit if you saw anybody wearing that :)
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Quote from: Rob4367 on August 13, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
I seen that aswell Matt I think it done a swap with 4197 because I seen 4197 pulling on the 246 then swapped onto the 9 and this was about 10:30-10:40 seen this happen while waiting for 1632 on the 276 to Wollaston :)
Must have seen you Rob because i was going to catch 4197 to Dudley, however when it transferred to the 9 i walked over and caught it to Birmingham.
I was going to my cousins wedding :) I was wearing a blue shirt/blue tie and a black suit if you saw anybody wearing that :)
Sure i saw you Rob!
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Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
I seen that aswell Matt I think it done a swap with 4197 because I seen 4197 pulling on the 246 then swapped onto the 9 and this was about 10:30-10:40 seen this happen while waiting for 1632 on the 276 to Wollaston :)
Must have seen you Rob because i was going to catch 4197 to Dudley, however when it transferred to the 9 i walked over and caught it to Birmingham.
I was going to my cousins wedding :) I was wearing a blue shirt/blue tie and a black suit if you saw anybody wearing that :)
Sure i saw you Rob!
Where abouts was you in the Bus Station when you saw me :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on August 13, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
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Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
On Friday, 4815 started its day onto the 9, but was moved onto the 246, only for it to then turn up on the 140/241 by late afternoon, right through to the end of service!
I seen that aswell Matt I think it done a swap with 4197 because I seen 4197 pulling on the 246 then swapped onto the 9 and this was about 10:30-10:40 seen this happen while waiting for 1632 on the 276 to Wollaston :)
Must have seen you Rob because i was going to catch 4197 to Dudley, however when it transferred to the 9 i walked over and caught it to Birmingham.
I was going to my cousins wedding :) I was wearing a blue shirt/blue tie and a black suit if you saw anybody wearing that :)
Sure i saw you Rob!
Where abouts was you in the Bus Station when you saw me :)
Was transferring from the 246 stand to the 9 stand.
4569 broken down in Stourbridge this morning but made it onto the 59 this afternoon. Also saw 4576 on the 255 on the Penn Road around about 12:40 (Towards Merry Hill) but saw it around about 17:45 on the 59
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 20, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
4569 broken down in Stourbridge this morning but made it onto the 59 this afternoon. Also saw 4576 on the 255 on the Penn Road around about 12:40 (Towards Merry Hill) but saw it around about 17:45 on the 59
Certain garages seem to be playing musical buses at the moment!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 20, 2013, 07:48:41 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 20, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
4569 broken down in Stourbridge this morning but made it onto the 59 this afternoon. Also saw 4576 on the 255 on the Penn Road around about 12:40 (Towards Merry Hill) but saw it around about 17:45 on the 59
Certain garages seem to be playing musical buses at the moment!
Thats just WN garage on a daily basis ;) (Even Sundays!)
4800 on the 141 earlier but made it onto the 140/241 by the evening!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 20, 2013, 11:45:56 PM
4800 on the 141 earlier but made it onto the 140/241 by the evening!
That's part of the running board, starts the first 141 of the day and then goes back to garage about 11ish and then takes up the 140 peaks in the evening, the reason it doesn't usually stick out is because a B7RLE is used first thing on the 141
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 20, 2013, 11:45:56 PM
4800 on the 141 earlier but made it onto the 140/241 by the evening!
That's part of the running board, starts the first 141 of the day and then goes back to garage about 11ish and then takes up the 140 peaks in the evening, the reason it doesn't usually stick out is because a B7RLE is used first thing on the 141
Does that running board do the last 241 from Halesowen (23:15) then the 140E (23:45) to Blackheath? As that was what 4800 was doing. 824 was on that same 140/241 running board not long ago so it may have started the day on the 141!
5513 was on the 59 today but moved onto the 126 this afternoon. Seen going towards Birmingham just past Dudley around about 17:00
Not sure if the 10/A interwork in WA bus Station if not then;
4683 was on the 10 around 10ish then seen on the 10A in Brownhills
Quote from: Nathan on August 24, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Not sure if the 10/A interwork in WA bus Station if not then;
4683 was on the 10 around 10ish then seen on the 10A in Brownhills
I think the 10/10A do interwork Nathan :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on August 24, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 24, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Not sure if the 10/A interwork in WA bus Station if not then;
4683 was on the 10 around 10ish then seen on the 10A in Brownhills
I think the 10/10A do interwork Nathan :)
:p they probably do, just ive never seen it myself
Quote from: Nathan on August 24, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Not sure if the 10/A interwork in WA bus Station if not then;
4683 was on the 10 around 10ish then seen on the 10A in Brownhills
Nathan, the 10 and 10A interwork at Walsall
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 24, 2013, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 24, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Not sure if the 10/A interwork in WA bus Station if not then;
4683 was on the 10 around 10ish then seen on the 10A in Brownhills
Nathan, the 10 and 10A interwork at Walsall
Like I said never seen it happen but fair enough 8)
4021 was on the 28 this morning but it moved onto the 59 this afternoon
1765 - 70 in the daytime seen it in Bloxwich then it was on the 7 when I got into Aldridge later on
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
1765 - 70 in the daytime seen it in Bloxwich then it was on the 7 when I got into Aldridge later on
Not unusual Nathan :) B7RLE are usual in the daytime too
Interesting one, I guess it's actually on the running board to do so, but this evening I saw 4239 come into Priory Queensway on the 94, change it's display to 33E to Perry Barr and went off back down Priory Queensway to Moor Street. This could probably explain why I see Geminis or B7s running as a 33E in the evenings
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
1765 - 70 in the daytime seen it in Bloxwich then it was on the 7 when I got into Aldridge later on
Not unusual Nathan :) B7RLE are usual in the daytime too
He didn't say it was unusual, he's posting it in the "vehicle swaps between routes" thread...
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
1765 - 70 in the daytime seen it in Bloxwich then it was on the 7 when I got into Aldridge later on
Not unusual Nathan :) B7RLE are usual in the daytime too
I know, but didst expect a swap like that or is it unusual for that swap to happen
Sorry Nathan :) Thought it was the unusual workings thread for some strange reason (I'm tired after a long day at school ;D ;))
WA isn't a garage that usually sees Vehichle Swaps between routes but compare it with WN thats a different story ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
Sorry Nathan :) Thought it was the unusual workings thread for some strange reason (I'm tired after a long day at school ;D ;))
WA isn't a garage that usually sees Vehichle Swaps between routes but compare it with WN thats a different story ;)
;D its alright, i know B7'S on the 7/7A & 70 are common :)
Quote from: Kevin on September 10, 2013, 07:05:29 PM
Interesting one, I guess it's actually on the running board to do so, but this evening I saw 4239 come into Priory Queensway on the 94, change it's display to 33E to Perry Barr and went off back down Priory Queensway to Moor Street. This could probably explain why I see Geminis or B7s running as a 33E in the evenings
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
1765 - 70 in the daytime seen it in Bloxwich then it was on the 7 when I got into Aldridge later on
Not unusual Nathan :) B7RLE are usual in the daytime too
He didn't say it was unusual, he's posting it in the "vehicle swaps between routes" thread...
Would explain the ALX400 I saw on the 33E yesterday.
4177 working daytime 14, then moved on the 45/7 by the peaks
4813 was on the 141 earlier, but was my bus home from Stourbridge on the 9 tonight :)
4808 in Merry Hill on the 141, then spotted it leaving Stourbridge on the 246 ?
4195 - 246, now somewhere on the 9
4824 on the 9 early this morning, then jumped ships onto the 140/241 this afternoon
4809 on 9 this morning around 8am, then reported on the 205 by lunchtime!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 26, 2013, 02:02:18 PM
4809 on 9 this morning around 8am, then reported on the 205 by lunchtime!
What time was that ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 26, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 26, 2013, 02:02:18 PM
4809 on 9 this morning around 8am, then reported on the 205 by lunchtime!
What time was that ?
1329 Wall Heath (Blaze Park) to Blackheath.
I saw 1872 on the 66A this morning and is now on the 952 this afternoon
Not got my ipod on me at the moment but I think
4431 - 97 then moved onto the 22/23 by 6pm
1 branded E400H was on its usual route (the 1!) yesterday daytime but it had moved onto the 529 by early evening
5420 on the 1 Sunday daytime then moved onto the 256 by the evening
5415 on the 1 on Monday then moved onto the 11 later on
5414 on the 1 on Tuesday then moved onto evening 25/7's
Necropsy! No. Anyway, remembered this thread existed. Wondered where it went! Okay, so another swap today. 1454 on WA 69 was a bit poorly. When the driver accelerated, the bus started to stutter, like forward backward forward backward. 1454 had to go to the garage. 1881 presumably ran dead to Wolverhampton (don't know what exactly happened but that's what the driver told me anyway) and served the route back to Walsall.
A couple of swaps today:
Firstly 4608 was on the 255 earlier on (It went out of service in Wolverhampton Bus Station about lunchtime) but i saw it about 35-40 minutes ago passing me through Heath Town on the 59.
Also 4561 was allocated to the 59 today (late night board) but was moved onto the 28 with 2011 moving onto the 59 (Don't know whether 2011 came off another route or from garage)
2002 came of the 82 and worked the 19:25 25C from Wolverhampton Bus Station
4579 was moved off the 59 and onto the 28 to replace broken down 626 but was then moved back onto the 59 (Same board it was earlier) early this evening
4608 wad on the 2 today but seen at 20:25 working the 126.
5404 was on the 11 yesterday morning and then moved onto another rare trip on the 529
4590 was on the 126 today (Caught it about 13:40 from B'ham Moor St) but is now parked up about to work an 11 to Underhill
2015 came off its 82 duties for the day at 19:15 but went onto the 32/3 in place of a Merc which went back to garage
This afternoon in West Brom while waiting for the 15:02 48 1699 & 4247 swapped over on the 45 & 48 1699 came off a 45 and worked the 15:02 48 to Bartley Green and 4247 did the opposite came off the 48 and worked a 45 to Walsall.
1440 arrived in Walsall Bus Station at 17:25, the driver stopped the engine and popped off to the toilet, came back. The passengers got on the bus, the driver tried to start the engine but it wouldn't start. To save the embarrassment for the driver, the bus station supervisor told the passengers to get off because the bus is broken down.
15 minutes or so later, 1890 arrived with the engineer. 1890 ran private. 1440 is still here (18:23)!
4565 was on the 32/3 this morning but saw it in Dudley on the 126 this afternoon.
1477 got replaced by 1440 on WA 39. It is on board 39/09. 1477 was driven by an engineer, presumably, to the garage.
4606 was on WN11 yesterday morning but saw it on the 25C in the afternoon.
Also 4018 was on the 59 till it finished its duty then must have gone onto the 11 as i saw it coming into Stafford St coming into Wolverhampton having just come from Underhill
2010 swapped with 4324. 2010 was on WN 59 and 4324 arrived in the bus station 'Not in Service'. The driver on WN 59 seemed not wanted to have a single decker so swapped. 4324 departed at 19:18. 2010 must have gone to the garage.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 11, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
2010 swapped with 4324. 2010 was on WN 59 and 4324 arrived in the bus station 'Not in Service'. The driver on WN 59 seemed not wanted to have a single decker so swapped. 4324 departed at 19:18. 2010 must have gone to the garage.
Yes the driver of that trip didn't want a B7 so it was swapped. Caught 4324 on 59/11 about 9pm last night.One of the inspectors said to me it would be swapped at some point at the request of the driver. The same will happen tonight with the Merc on 59/11. 4324 came off the 126 I believe.
Same happened the previous evening when 1677 was allocated to the board (Should be Tridents really!). 4313 replaced it and 1677 went back to garage
4902 & 4908 swapped routes this morning
4902 'Grace' Swapped from 957 onto 900 prior to working the 09:35 to Coventry
4908 'Millie' Swapped from 900 onto 957 prior to working the 09:27 to Solihull
Strange one to say the least -
Caught 4359 on the 76 today at 11:00 from Solihull - radio conversation before we got into Shirley but couldn't hear as at the back. When we got to Haunch Lane Yardley Wood, 4363 was sitting in front, with an engineer in attendance. Another passenger commented it must have broken down - cue the engineer coming up to our bus and saying "can you move on to the bus in front please!" So we transferred onto 4363 in front - from what I heard from the conversation between the engineer and driver 4359 was going onto the 18 - I think. Our driver transferred onto 4363 and we then set off again. The engineer though zoomed off with 4359 along the 18 route towards the Alcester Road. 4359 sounded healthy enough so can't believe there was an issue with it.
I can only assume the only reason they swapped was to reduce lost mileage.
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 09, 2015, 10:21:33 PM
Strange one to say the least -
Caught 4359 on the 76 today at 11:00 from Solihull - radio conversation before we got into Shirley but couldn't hear as at the back. When we got to Haunch Lane Yardley Wood, 4363 was sitting in front, with an engineer in attendance. Another passenger commented it must have broken down - cue the engineer coming up to our bus and saying "can you move on to the bus in front please!" So we transferred onto 4363 in front - from what I heard from the conversation between the engineer and driver 4359 was going onto the 18 - I think. Our driver transferred onto 4363 and we then set off again. The engineer though zoomed off with 4359 along the 18 route towards the Alcester Road. 4359 sounded healthy enough so can't believe there was an issue with it.
I can only assume the only reason they swapped was to reduce lost mileage.
No it wasn't taken off to go on the 18. It was 'wanted in garage'
Thanks for checking on that for me Tony.
I was on it yesterday.
Do you mean 4359/4363?
4359
Ahh right - I was sitting on the lower deck at the very back.
17:50 this afternoon:
4571 was taken off the 59 and put onto Metro Replacement with 4561 coming off ML1 and going onto the 59
Not sure if 4930 was on the 33/28E/67 school board, but I saw it on the 33 and then the 67 this afternoon. Pretty sure they was different drivers each time I saw it
Yes it was, saw it at hawthorn road on the 28E
Yesterday I clocked on that 809 went from the 58/59 to the X64.
4016 was on the 255 this morning before moving onto the 79. It was supposed to be on 33/01 when marked up in garage last night.
2083 was on the X96 about an hour an half ago, now on the 120.
833 was on the 42 this morning and at some point been swapped onto the 47.
4330 was on 10 and got swapped on the 8, and 4734 was on the 8 and got swapped on the 10. 4302 is now on that board. ::)