May as well start a topic for Telford garage
I'm told members on the scrap line there include 2632 2633 and 2638
What route does the lone DAF decker at Telford run on? Or is at Telford mainly for a school route?
Quote from: John on April 06, 2014, 03:08:45 PM
What route does the lone DAF decker at Telford run on? Or is at Telford mainly for a school route?
Mostly on the staff shuttle so a photo 4787 is still easy enough to attain
Bit of a waste of a decker? Couldnt they use a dart or b6 for a staff shuttle
Possibly a bit wasteful given the staff bus st Stafford is an 8 seat LDV Convoy. However if TF kept it, they could only really use it on the 44 as that is the only route where the patronage would meet the needs of a decker and the lack of trees but that's just an idea
Are none of telfords routes very busy then? Cannocks cant be particularly either cos eg tamworth got a load of nice heavyweight Citaros for LOCAL routes and Cannock get cheap to run lightweight crap sb200's for interurban use! As do Telford with the 481. Although they oddly received about three Citaros. The 57 plates on the Staffords sound knackered now and the seats absolutely stink on them
I've been reliably informed the 44 goes under a 13 foot 6 inch bridge in oakengates if the daf decker is a foot higher bit of a problem ay there
In that case it can't go on the 44. So the best solution would be send it to Leicester.
As for Pulsar's, maybe they are on long distance routes but they're more up to the job than the Versa's which are the worst bus ever. As for Citaro's, you see those every day on Birmingham routes although I have pondered why a random b atch of Citaro's and more Pulsar's. I like both so I'm not fussed
Versa's arent brilliant agreed but on a lomg journey like an 891 theyre much quieter than pulsars. Theyre horrendously noisy and chronically underpowered.
Underpowered maybe so but they said that about B6's. A lack of power is now seemingly common amidst plastic modern buses but you just have to get used to all those factors and either quit complaining about it or we all just give up the hobby. Like I said I'd have a Pulsar over anything currently in production
Youd rather have a Pulsar over a B7RLE or a Citaro? Both of them are majorly superior buses.
Yes I would :) the lack of power gives them a personality, the interiors are a much nicer place to be (bright and comfortable). Bad taste I know
Lol have you been on cannocks route 1 sb200's? They got severe lack of power mixed with knackered engines and gearboxes with threadbare interiors thrown in ahaha. Imagine the unloved tired old sister of telfords two commanders and youll get the general drift :-p
Ah here we are, a new Arriva thread and not even 2 pages old before Bob gets his favourite word in....anybody guess??
Telford have the decker for a school/college contract they operate so when morning trip is complete it will spend the day on the staff shuttle, Telford have also had some Y/UON daf cadets return from shrewsbury, 2635/41 left Telford and are working out of Cannock
Quote from: Ashley on April 06, 2014, 07:44:42 PM
they're more up to the job than the Versa's which are the worst bus ever.
You think the Versas were bad on the 481, try the 55-plate Darts that were replaced by them. In idle, you would have thought there was an earthquake, with how severely they shook (the seats with no-one on them would be bouncing violently!)
Those darts were worked hard on the 825 before going on to the 481. They werent ever really up to heavy interurban work even when new
I know - the same TINY four-pot engine you get with the MPDs, and these are almost as big as the SPDs (that's almost 11 metres)! If you ask me, I'd say "Why waste the money on these when you can just have the SPDs?"
Maybe if they offered a more powerful engine (and possibly a Voith gearbox, like some SPDs), then I'd consider buying them. But, as they are now, then no. Waste if you ask me.
Has anybody seen 2239/41, and is 2722 actually coming to Telford?
Been told there's 3/4 MPDs parked round the back of the yard oos. Sorry got no more info as yet
There's 3 MPDs at the depot which have been oos for quite sometime: 2135/2241/2248
Oh christ I hope theyre not coming to cannock!
2135's bad, but 2241 and 2248 are actually pretty good. 2248 has paper in the back destination box. :/
Y348UON has now been fitted with LEDs, as has Y366UON. Does anybody have an idea where Y362UON is?
There was rumour that cannocks 4 cadets bu03 hrd/e/j/k were going back to telford. Hre/j apparently had to be re trimmed due to the interiors being bad enough to fail an mot. Hrk is in a dreadful state inside absolutely revolting its easy the worst bus internally at cannock. Any one know if theyre still eventually going back to telford?
Quote from: arrivadays on April 16, 2014, 08:22:36 AM
Y348UON has now been fitted with LEDs, as has Y366UON. Does anybody have an idea where Y362UON is?
2722 Y362UON was still in service at Shrewsbury last week.
I think HRD/E/J/K were at Stafford - not Telford (when they were RuraLine - Stafford operated it before Telford did).
On another note, 2718 was sent back to the depot (possibly with electrical problems, replaced by 2739), and then I came back on 2639 and that was having some bad gearbox problems. I think that will soon be at the end of its life.
Apparently 2135/2241/47 are working from stafford and 2722 has now joined the sisters at Telford.....??
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 16, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
Apparently 2135/2241/47 are working from stafford and 2722 has now joined the sisters at Telford.....??
2135 2241 out of service as reported above and 2247 is reported as Telford today in unusual workings thread
The B6s are being withdrawn at a fast rate now arent they? Its mad to think that originally loads of them were destined for wednesfield but were diverted to Stafford who were having 'major reliability problems' at the time. Lol
They are in a terrible state. I think those few years of hard work on the 44 took their toll. And to think that they were diverting unreliable buses to Stafford who were having reliability problems.
Welcome to Arriva :p
B6s are pretty poor though lol even darts are slightly better than them and theyre pants
3489 (N429 XRC) on the 890 Wolverhampton > Bridgnorth service yesterday afternoon.
Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 12:06:55 PM
3489 (N429 XRC) on the 890 Wolverhampton > Bridgnorth service yesterday afternoon.
^ NICE!!! Good olr big scanias you cant go wrong! That bus is used on a school service normally
2981 sounding awful today on the 55 - definetely not healthy at all.
Ex-Shrewsbury 2743 (LF02PLU) on 55 this morning.
2743 is 1 that was wrecked by cannock and needed a new engine, I do think telford have a pretty decent fleet
It does sound pretty weird - sounds awfully quiet. It reminds me of when we had 2377 before it left Telford. I kinda miss those ADL Darts.
Speaking of which, went on 2374 the other day, and it's had its "Bus Stopping" sign replaced. Before it used to be the one that would light up green and say "Stopping" but now it's like the one used on 2734.
All our cadets at Cannock have had the green stopping sign have been replaced
It may seem odd but who actually makes them kind of stopping signs? I could have sworn also that either 2730 or 2733 had one of those types of signs (that never actually worked).
Are those cadets going back to telford? You can have em lol. Have you seen the legroom on them? Its pitiful! Who onearth designs Iinteriors these days I dont know! Even women struggle with the room between some seats! Is it cos theyve been squeezed together to allow 'buggy zones' etc
Call me insane - but I actually like the ISBe engined Cadets better than the older Cadets. I think it's how the drivers thrash them more. I do hope we get them soon - but I think we'll be Cadet haven if we're getting your lot (which will probably be when the Streetlites arrive) as well as Shrewsburys 02-plate ones. Probably to see off the last few B6BLEs (thank the lord! :) )
Cannocks only got four plus the short pair branded for the 2s, ( out of date and incorrect branding considering theres a 2A and has been for yonks, the branding doesnt mention that they both run further than cannock lol and considering the 1 branding doeant mention that 99 precent of trips start and end in Huntington both are a pathetic show really lol) which are both knackered sounding. I wouldn't imagine youd want the short pair? Do u agree about the legroom? The isbe engines certainly sound smoother than they do in a dart. Personally I think the b series engined y regs sound quieter and smoother than equivalent darts too
Quote from: bob on April 25, 2014, 09:22:11 PM
Cannocks only got four plus the short pair branded for the 2s, ( out of date and incorrect branding considering theres a 2A and has been for yonks, the branding doesnt mention that they both run further than cannock lol and considering the 1 branding doeant mention that 99 precent of trips start and end in Huntington both are a pathetic show really lol) which are both knackered sounding. I wouldn't imagine youd want the short pair? Do u agree about the legroom? The isbe engines certainly sound smoother than they do in a dart. Personally I think the b series engined y regs sound quieter and smoother than equivalent darts too
I can certainly agree with you about the leg room - that's why I always sit near the back (with the saloon seats or whatever they're called). Tbf, I think the two short Cadets would be good to see off 2247 and 2248. And the engines are nicer in Cadets than Darts (with the B-series, you can never hear the Allison squeel in the MPDs, and that kinda has an impact on the smoothness). But, it would be nice to have the short pair as a replacement for the remaining 2 W-reg MPDs.
Well 6 streetlites to Cannock could see this dismiss of 2701/2/2731/32/35/36 because the former route1 commanders are going to be employed on 2/2A
Any ideas when the StreetLite's will be arriving then?
September according to the meeting at cannock council. Are they gonna refurb and respray 3701-4 before going on the 2/2a or just debrand them and leave them in the current disgusting state? 3704 particularly needs some mechanical work it sounds like it's gonna blow up
So about August/September time we should be expecting the Cadets to come here... Unless they change the plans, but I doubt they will. I'm hoping that, at some point, we get your B10s as well - should be good enough to see off the Scanias as their time is now fast approaching.
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 26, 2014, 09:01:39 AM
Well 6 streetlites to Cannock could see this dismiss of 2701/2/2731/32/35/36 because the former route1 commanders are going to be employed on 2/2A
But on the other hand werent the new s##tlites suppose to be replacing the scuttiest darts?
You'll probably get something else from another depot. Solos perhaps?
I just know if Shrewsbury's getting some StreetLite's, then I can guarantee Telford will probably get some soon enough -_-
Jesus can u Imagine doing the entire 64/164 journey on a s##tlite???? Id think itd be pretty awful? It was bad when cadets ran on it. In MRN days when standards were a bit better that and the X5 always had a coach! Come to think of it the 481 did to up til about 1993/4
And then early 2000s you'd have Leyland Greenways and Volvo EL2000s on the Wackies and 481. And I think you mean Street###e ;)
Volvo el2000? Did u mean the h-xyt ones that all ended up at cannock? They weren't so bad. Never saw them break down unlike the darts lol. Seriously 13y.o. unrefurbed falling to bits darts used regularly on interurban routes is a bit of a joke lol.
Yeah the H-XYT ones. And putting Darts on routes like the X5 is bad enough - simply aren't capable on the motorway.
I thought X5 was a versa operated route? I dont mind them tbf theyre quite quiet in comparison to darts and sb200s but capacity wise they can really struggle on some routes.ive been on the 891 at times and theyve been full. What the hell happened to the X5 it used to be really regular and popular now its a bit of a shadow of its former glory
2219 (T49 JJF) on the 297, Kidder > Bridgnorth yesterday (26/04) and Friday (25/04).
Quote from: Will on April 27, 2014, 08:12:43 PM
2219 (T49 JJF) on the 297, Kidder > Bridgnorth yesterday (26/04) and Friday (25/04).
I've seen numerous mini Darts on the 297 over the past few days. Are they not the norm?
Quote from: Matt on April 27, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: Will on April 27, 2014, 08:12:43 PM
2219 (T49 JJF) on the 297, Kidder > Bridgnorth yesterday (26/04) and Friday (25/04).
I've seen numerous mini Darts on the 297 over the past few days. Are they not the norm?
No mate usually Cadets/Versa's on occasions
Quote from: Will on April 27, 2014, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: Matt on April 27, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: Will on April 27, 2014, 08:12:43 PM
2219 (T49 JJF) on the 297, Kidder > Bridgnorth yesterday (26/04) and Friday (25/04).
I've seen numerous mini Darts on the 297 over the past few days. Are they not the norm?
No mate usually Cadets/Versa's on occasions
2275 was also on there on Thursday 24th
Quote from: bob on April 27, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
I thought X5 was a versa operated route? I dont mind them tbf theyre quite quiet in comparison to darts and sb200s but capacity wise they can really struggle on some routes.ive been on the 891 at times and theyve been full. What the hell happened to the X5 it used to be really regular and popular now its a bit of a shadow of its former glory
The Dart was on there before it was even Versa operated. I love the Versas - the Mercedes-Benz engines are for much smoother than the Cummins engine. Went on 6007 (which is a Solo) and the engine is so smooth, much higher than my expectations. On some routes, I agree, they can struggle - unless they're the 12m-long 43-seater models. A lot of the time they're put on the 55 in Telford, but Shrewsbury often put them on 81 and X5. Speaking of X5, I keep seeing ex-Oswestry VDL Cadets operate the X5, and that was quite busy, tbf.
I think it also doesn't help now that Bryn Melyn is operating the X96 - that's going to offer some competition for Arriva.
X96?
All the ex-Shrewsbury Cadets have finally had their Hanovers installed - although 2708's has already failed -_-
(3489) N429 XRC operating the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) run today (28/05/14)
Quote from: arrivadays on May 28, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
All the ex-Shrewsbury Cadets have finally had their Hanovers installed - although 2708's has already failed -_-
2742 was noted in service at Telford last week is this included in the above or has it returned to SY?
Quote from: Will on May 28, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
(3489) N429 XRC operating the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) run today (28/05/14)
Great spot! Odd seeing one of those in Kidder, I bet.
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2014, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: Will on May 28, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
(3489) N429 XRC operating the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) run today (28/05/14)
Great spot! Odd seeing one of those in Kidder, I bet.
Well yes mate considering that after all this is a Telford vehicle
Quote from: Will on May 28, 2014, 11:34:13 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2014, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: Will on May 28, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
(3489) N429 XRC operating the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) run today (28/05/14)
Great spot! Odd seeing one of those in Kidder, I bet.
Well yes mate considering that after all this is a Telford vehicle
Exactly, did you get a photo?
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2014, 11:39:34 PM
Quote from: Will on May 28, 2014, 11:34:13 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2014, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: Will on May 28, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
(3489) N429 XRC operating the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) run today (28/05/14)
Great spot! Odd seeing one of those in Kidder, I bet.
Well yes mate considering that after all this is a Telford vehicle
Exactly, did you get a photo?
Nope too quick for me
Quote from: tphi12000 on May 28, 2014, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on May 28, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
All the ex-Shrewsbury Cadets have finally had their Hanovers installed - although 2708's has already failed -_-
2742 was noted in service at Telford last week is this included in the above or has it returned to SY?
I spotted it last week - I think this might well be a transfer. When I was talking about the Cadets with the Hannovers installed, I was moreso on about the Y-UON Cadets. But 2742 has got the Telford destinations installed on its unit, so I'm guessing it is a transfer.
12-branded Citaro broken down today, but out and about later in the day.
2219 on the 891/2 this afternoon Seen @ Wolverhampton Bus Station
The 891 (+892) seem to be getting all sorts of late. Haven't seen a Versa in a while though.....
891 and 892 still Versa's almost daily. 890 still getting the lovely Y-UON Cadet's
I have to say the Y-UON Cadet's aren't half bad - they're much smoother than the SB200/Pulsars.
Quote from: arrivadays on June 15, 2014, 08:40:19 PM
I have to say the Y-UON Cadet's aren't half bad - they're much smoother than the SB200/Pulsars.
Not keen on them much prefer 2275 (FL 52 MML) & 2374 (FJ 55 BWD)
That said, 2275 & 2374 are my preference as well. Must admit, I miss FJ55 BWA/B/C/E/F/G - they were strong work horses and need to come back to Telford.
One of them caught fire in Leicester not long back I think. Werent they knackered after years of being pounded on the 825 then 481? Have you seen and heard the state of fl52mml sister bus FK52 MML at cannock? Jesus its awful one of the worst it shakes and vibrates terrible when idling, its been off road loads and theyve still not managed to sort it out
Quote from: Bob on June 16, 2014, 08:05:31 AM
One of them caught fire in Leicester not long back I think. Werent they knackered after years of being pounded on the 825 then 481? Have you seen and heard the state of fl52mml sister bus FK52 MML at cannock? Jesus its awful one of the worst it shakes and vibrates terrible when idling, its been off road loads and theyve still not managed to sort it out
It was 2373 which had a fire in Leicester earlier this year, although it is still intended to return to service.
2373 is to see sevice again isn't it? Don't they have a hired pulsar (9001) covering for its absence
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 20, 2014, 05:24:15 PM
2373 is to see sevice again isn't it? Don't they have a hired pulsar (9001) covering for its absence
Yes, 9001 is covering for both 2373 and 3810
2546 (YN53SVT, ex-Wardles) on 33/55 yesterday
Recently transfered 2619 V219KDA has been working the Arriva Staff Shuttle, 2133 V426DGT is working from Bridgnorth on 114 today, 3489 N429XRC on 55 and solo 2503 on 892
2133 on 55 last week.
Also unusual sightings on 55 have included FL63 DXR (481-branded w/ leather interior Pulsar) and N429 XRC (Scania/ELC).
3468 (N168 PUT) on 11/22 circulars. 3489 (N429 XRC) on 33/55. 3491 (N431 XRC) on Tesco shuttle, with broken destination display, once again!
Recent transfers: 2619 on 11/22; 2218 on 23/24; 3010 on 12
Is 3010 a loan or transfer?
Not quite sure - but as soon as it pulled into the station after running the 12, it changed drivers and went out of service :/
I'm hoping it's a transfer - want more of them in Telford :)
2374 (FJ55 BWD) was on the 141 (Bridgnorth-Ludlow) yesterday while en route the dashboard kept bleeping at the driver and once this happened it would go into crawling go slow mode I don't know what was wrong with it but it did the same thing 3 times in the end it was okay
Loan.
9001 at Leicester is covering 2373 3910 not 3810
Telford soon be having 3 Streetlies 3310 3311 3312
What?! :O 3 StreetLites for Telford?!
Arent they replacing the citaros which are supposed to be going to tamworth? Talk about a drop in quality haha
Quote from: arrivadays on August 08, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
What?! :O 3 StreetLites for Telford?!
Yes!
On the subjects of Streetlites, the NXWM drivers in Glasgow were driving some of the First ones based there, and I asked their opinion of them. Only bad comments was they are useless on hills, of which Glasgow has plenty.
Asking one of First's managers about this he said it is just the way First have them set up for fuel economy. They have the same Cummins Engine and Voith gearbox as E200s, and are actually lighter, so in theory could be faster, and have a better build quality
Whats your opinion on the looks tony? Personally I think theyre possibly the ugliest thing on the market at present. Hideous. They sound much much louder than e200s. And kickdown a lot in the same way that sb200s constantly do
Currently sat on 2374 (FJ55 BWD) which has broken down just outside Kidderminster I knew there was something wrong with this particular bus when I was on it the other day
The 3 heading to Telford were the 3 origonaly due to go to Shrewsbury
Update:
2374 is still unwell!! Saw it today in Telford and it was blowing thick grey smoke out the exhaust it didn't appear to look very healthy at all
Hoping 2374 doesn't get withdrawn - it's the only one out of the FJ55 BW- batch that TF has left!
I doubt 2374 will be withdrawn, 8 year old bus, there's a lot of older buses which need replacing, if anything it would go to Leicester with the rest of the batch
Are the new StreetLites known to be designated for any particular route?
12's and the 3 citaros are to move to Tamworth
Oh no - why do the Citaros have to go?!
I dont think the streetlites will be anywhere near as nice to travel on
Currently on-loan 3010 (BJ12 YPV) is on 33/55 today.
Quote from: Bob on August 16, 2014, 06:54:05 AM
I dont think the streetlites will be anywhere near as nice to travel on
Bob,
Forgot to forward these last night, taken at Heysham Docks:
Arriva Midlands 3301 – http://smu.gs/VvEtB9
Arriva Midlands 3302 – http://smu.gs/1m8oUpV
Arriva Midlands 3303 - http://smu.gs/1tblIOs
Christ they're ugly .....
Quote from: Bob on August 18, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
Christ they're ugly .....
I think they look ok tbh, abit bland until the fleetnames are applied
Looks like a 5 year-old designed them!
Quote from: Bob on August 18, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
Christ they're ugly .....
Why is it Arriva specify a full stainless steel panel underneath the fuel filler cap? they look like they've been damaged/had replacement panels when still brand new.
Has anyone seen any YouTube videos of them? ?? Horrendously noisy even more unpleasant than pulsars. ..why couldnt they invest in some more citaros ie decent quality instead of these piles of crap?
Also I can understand the 1 being ripe for an upgrade cos its a busy commuter service but the 2??? Its barely used!
According to Arriva North East drivers, they're slower than the Pulsar 2's-of all batches-and will only do 50-55 vs at least 60 on the Pulsar 2's.
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 18, 2014, 06:56:04 PM
According to Arriva North East drivers, they're slower than the Pulsar 2's-of all batches-and will only do 50-55 vs at least 60 on the Pulsar 2's.
They are only 'slower' because of the way operators set up the engine management systems. 'Will only do 50-55'? so what. There is no road on the 1 or two route with a speed limit above 40 mph. Again that is just down to what the company sets the speed limiter to, nothing to do with the bus. The at least '60' will no doubt be 62.5mph which is the maximum speed by law an bus speed limiter can be set at.
Is that why cannocks pulsars can barely cope with even the slightest incline then tony?
Quote from: Bob on August 18, 2014, 08:26:46 PM
Is that why cannocks pulsars can barely cope with even the slightest incline then tony?
It probably is. I have no idea how Arriva set their buses up, but most operators now set them for maximum fuel economy, so most newer buses tend to be slower off the mark than their equivalent older model
I dunno. Cannocks older sb200 ( route 1) struggle just as much.
Youd think being lightweights theyd be a bit nippier. Its like theyve got hardly any power
I'm going to Telford on Wednesday morning, will 3010 still be there and is 2633 still in use or was its time in reserve brief? Thanks in advance
Quote from: Winston on August 18, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 18, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
Christ they're ugly .....
Why is it Arriva specify a full stainless steel panel underneath the fuel filler cap? they look like they've been damaged/had replacement panels when still brand new.
I notice 4264 has this but not 4268? Seems quite odd.
I have to say these buses ( as well as being hideously ugly looking) look a bit smaller than the commanders currently used? Do they have the same seating capacity
Quote from: Ashley on August 18, 2014, 09:13:27 PM
I'm going to Telford on Wednesday morning, will 3010 still be there and is 2633 still in use or was its time in reserve brief? Thanks in advance
Haven't seen 2633 since it was withdrawn - 3010 might still be here though. Hopefully!
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2014, 07:48:33 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 18, 2014, 06:56:04 PM
According to Arriva North East drivers, they're slower than the Pulsar 2's-of all batches-and will only do 50-55 vs at least 60 on the Pulsar 2's.
They are only 'slower' because of the way operators set up the engine management systems. 'Will only do 50-55'? so what. There is no road on the 1 or two route with a speed limit above 40 mph. Again that is just down to what the company sets the speed limiter to, nothing to do with the bus. The at least '60' will no doubt be 62.5mph which is the maximum speed by law an bus speed limiter can be set at.
Yeah but the routes ANE are putting them on eg X1 aren't the same as the Cannock 1. They're fast interurban routes Timetables on the Darlington X1 are being altered to cater for the new streetlites ie greater running time as they won't achieve the same speeds as Pulsar 2's, according to drivers who have driven both.
2374 on the 55 today. Looks to be much healthier now, thankfully.
Additionally, has 2275 (FL52 MML) really been sold? I swear I only saw it the other day.
Just seen YJ59 BVH drive past - it's sounding very poorly, with it vibrating so loudly when accelerating, I thought I heard a motorbike drive past with it.
Does the 892 accept Nbus' if going from Wolverhampton to Telford?
Quote from: NXDom on August 30, 2014, 01:38:50 PM
Does the 892 accept Nbus' if going from Wolverhampton to Telford?
I would think only to the centro boundary
Quote from: NXDom on August 30, 2014, 01:38:50 PM
Does the 892 accept Nbus' if going from Wolverhampton to Telford?
Only up to the West Midlands border which is just past Tettenhall
With the StreetLites arriving soon, is the 12 going to be a Sapphire route or just a standard route like always?
Streetlites for Telford are just standard, bit of a downgrade from citaros if you ask me
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 19, 2014, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2014, 07:48:33 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 18, 2014, 06:56:04 PM
According to Arriva North East drivers, they're slower than the Pulsar 2's-of all batches-and will only do 50-55 vs at least 60 on the Pulsar 2's.
They are only 'slower' because of the way operators set up the engine management systems. 'Will only do 50-55'? so what. There is no road on the 1 or two route with a speed limit above 40 mph. Again that is just down to what the company sets the speed limiter to, nothing to do with the bus. The at least '60' will no doubt be 62.5mph which is the maximum speed by law an bus speed limiter can be set at.
Yeah but the routes ANE are putting them on eg X1 aren't the same as the Cannock 1. They're fast interurban routes Timetables on the Darlington X1 are being altered to cater for the new streetlites ie greater running time as they won't achieve the same speeds as Pulsar 2's, according to drivers who have driven both.
I know arriva midlands limit there vehicles at 60 mph, yes I cant understand why not do it at 62!
Streetlites 3310 3311 3312 to hit the road tomorrow on Gorge services
Citaro 3010 has gone back to Tamworth
Pulsar 3779 has returned to Telford
3779 passed me on the 116 from Birmingham on the 18th. I suppose that will have been one of its last Tamworth workings.
Is Muxton easy to get to from Telford Town Centre?
The brother & sister in law are planning to move from Pelsall to Telford, so it's nearer for the sis in laws work at Harper Adams, while the niece has to commute to Wolves Uni.(Muxton is the current favourite!)
Costwise, the bus wins out, but the journey from Wolves to Telford stop at teatime, so journey timewise, the train appears to be better but more expensive coupled with any bus out of Telford!
If commuting by train and bus (using bus in Telford) over periods of a week/month or more a plusbus season coupled with a rail season might be worth it?
If commuting in the Centro area too then a network with telford extension possibly?
To be honest, as far as our side of the family is concerned, it would be just be the occasional day trip over there!
Both the sis in law & niece (only just!) drive, so they can get about fairly easily.
(You never know, the niece might move closer to Wolves & her uni friends!)
33 is a half hour journey from the Town Centre to Muxton.
I must say - I was wrong. The new StreetLites are fantastic - they were really smooth (apart from the odd jerk from tickover straight back into drive); a very surprising ride for me! :)
Quote from: arrivadays on October 12, 2014, 08:02:43 AM
I must say - I was wrong. The new StreetLites are fantastic - they were really smooth (apart from the odd jerk from tickover straight back into drive); a very surprising ride for me! :)
I have been saying for a while that the Streetlites are not bad. I have ridden the First Manchester ones many times and found them a good ride. Some people have a downer on them - but it is a bit personal i think.
B6 2613 is at Telford after brief spell with Wardles, noted on the 55 and now has all signs of branding removed.
Quote from: cheshire exile on October 12, 2014, 08:09:43 AM
Quote from: arrivadays on October 12, 2014, 08:02:43 AM
I must say - I was wrong. The new StreetLites are fantastic - they were really smooth (apart from the odd jerk from tickover straight back into drive); a very surprising ride for me! :)
I have been saying for a while that the Streetlites are not bad. I have ridden the First Manchester ones many times and found them a good ride. Some people have a downer on them - but it is a bit personal i think.
Really noisy though compared with other buses. And sooooooo incredibly ugly
With the sighting of ex-CK 3618 on the 55 the other day, am I right in assuming that all 3 of the ex-Cannock Wright B10s are going to be moving to the Telford depot?
If so, could they quite possibly be the successors to the Scanias that are bound to be at the end of their lives?
Arriva have obviously taken a liking to the StreetLite
another 25 have been ordered for Telford depot, delivery due Jan/Feb 2015
Might be the replacements for the current fleet of 44 buses (59-plate Pulsars), or the old Cadets. 25 is a lot though! I wonder if they're the Max-specification, or a smaller variant?
around 6 more of the Streetlites are supposed to be coming to Telford earlier than expected (End of Nov/ Start of Dec) as 6 Versas are required to go to Stafford depot
Are the versas moving to sstafford to replace darts? Presumably therell be other buses cascaded as well when the streetlites arrive. I hope they dont send the 03 plate cadets to cannock to join the others! As buses theyre ok but the legroom is ridiculous
How are you finding the legroom on the StreetLites, Bob?
It depends where you are on them to be fair. Toward the back where I saat isnt too bad but back seat legrooms next to nothing lol. Anyone noticed how the seats in the lower half are wider but the ones in the raised part are standard?
extra vehicles required for X25 service
What six of them??? How frequent is it gonna be? Youd have thought maybe pulsars for the X25, although versas are quite quiet tbf and have slightly higher backed seats than standard buses
3618 is still pottering around Telford; unusually working on a late-shift 55 tonight.
B6 2636 V236KDA reported to be recieving an MOT!! thought these were going by Feb 2015
They really have to go by Feb 2015? I thought they'd legally keep! Besides, aren't the Scanias going by Feb 2015?
Quote from: arrivadays on November 20, 2014, 06:09:20 AM
They really have to go by Feb 2015? I thought they'd legally keep! Besides, aren't the Scanias going by Feb 2015?
The Scania's? Oh yes I bloody hope so old knackers there's nothing more I'd love seeing than 3468/3489 turned into coke cans although I know for a full on fact @arrivaaston would disagree
The scanias arent that bad! Theyre beasts! Powerful, and comfortable as well! I caught one of telfords handful of commanders last week BF52 OAD and it was awful in comparison. Struggling to get up the hill by central station. Incredibly noisy and rough
3717 is perfectly fine I think! The scanias are fab as well -- i just hope they do a last day like they did with the falcons!
How many versa's will be left at telford once stafford get the extra 3? Im one of the few that actually dont mind them. Although they're a bit flimsy etc theyre pretty quiet and smooth. Id sooner do an interurban trip say to wolves on one than an sb200. Id have a headache after 50min on that!
The Versas are really nice as well, unless they're hoovering really bad, in which case they'll make a massive racket.
Has anybody seen 3618 recently? Haven't seen it myself for a while - possibly gone to another depot perhaps? :/
3617/8/9 were regulars on the 70 along with 3606/9. All gone and in their place are threadbare awful commanders still branded up for route 1 & mpds. Fk52 mml on 70 today. A bit of a downgrade :-(. At least the volvos were sprayed up and refurbished and smooth and a hell of a lot quieter than whats on there now.
I was talking more about if anybody had seen 3618 since it was in Telford... Not Cannock's allocations...
Its probably with 3617/9 wherever they are. Head office possibly? A right waste they were really good. 3619 was quite unreliable though it had lots of problems.
Quote from: Bob on November 20, 2014, 10:41:10 PM
Its probably with 3617/9 wherever they are. Head office possibly? A right waste they were really good. 3619 was quite unreliable though it had lots of problems.
3617 is at wardles
Quote from: tphi12000 on November 20, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: Bob on November 20, 2014, 10:41:10 PM
Its probably with 3617/9 wherever they are. Head office possibly? A right waste they were really good. 3619 was quite unreliable though it had lots of problems.
3617 is at wardles
Is it possible that 3618/9 are there/heading there in the near future?
How come if the volvos were "withdrawn from cannock due to being old and having 25% higher running costs than other buses' are they operated fine elsewhere? I just wondered is it down to profitability of different garages? Or repairs budgets? Does it mean cannock cant afford to run them?
If you were presented with the opportunity to standardise on a type which is cheaper to operate, you would take it.
Depot performance is considered in respect of vehicle types, but wasn't the reason here. They are also rather impractical inside with a lack of bell-pushes and grab rails!
is Telford Garage operating the new 101 Bridgnorth town service taken over from whittles?
Quote from: Ced on November 22, 2014, 04:57:03 PM
is Telford Garage operating the new 101 Bridgnorth town service taken over from whittles?
Yes mate they are and so I believe on an indefinite basis
Quote from: 646 on November 22, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
If you were presented with the opportunity to standardise on a type which is cheaper to operate, you would take it.
Depot performance is considered in respect of vehicle types, but wasn't the reason here. They are also rather impractical inside with a lack of bell-pushes and grab rails!
But theyre ok for services in stoke on trent though? With a lack of handrails and bells.
3618 back out on 55 today.
3618 was noted on the 481 on Saturday
4810 noted on the Tesco free bus on Monday
3618 on 481s again today.
New streetlite 3319 noted at the depot this morning
2247 (W247 SNR) on the 297 today she goes like a rocket what a beast!!!
4810 seen out of service in the bus station this morning, before being taken on the 12.
Meanwhile, 2273 sounding awful on a ride on the 23. 2135 parked in Stand A with its back to the station, and 3310 operating the 25. Also, Shropshire CC Solo 6007 operating the 24 today.
481 branded Pulsar on the 44
Edit
Its FL63DXO
2730 broken down this morning. Replaced on 33/55 by 3468.
Santa driving 3779 on the 481 and 12 tonight
Quote from: Ashley on December 18, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Santa driving 3779 on the 481 and 12 tonight
It's a good job Bob doesn't have a PCV or they'd have the Grinch driving an underpowered hairdryer on the 2...
Quote from: andy on December 18, 2014, 07:46:07 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 18, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Santa driving 3779 on the 481 and 12 tonight
It's a good job Bob doesn't have a PCV or they'd have the Grinch driving an underpowered hairdryer on the 2...
The new Mercedes Benz Sleigh class :D
6 Streetlites now delivered.
3319 and 3320 out on 44's today
3320 has replaced my last required TF Pulsar 3784 on the 481 late RC
3321 on 33/55
3322 on 12's
No Streetlites out newer than that
i believe there is a launch Friday.
3 versas gone to Shrewsbury.
2267 Y267YBC is a new arrival at telford ex stafford
Noted 3339 on the 44 today
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 12, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Noted 3339 on the 44 today
The newest I saw in service last week was 3333. The best one at TF so far would be 3325, no quirks that others have but each to their own
There were 7-8 still parked in Wednesfield yard at lunch time including 3331 with a large black exhaust mark on the front parked by the entrance ...
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 12, 2015, 10:12:17 PM
There were 7-8 still parked in Wednesfield yard at lunch time including 3331 with a large black exhaust mark on the front parked by the entrance ...
3331 was washed and sent to Telford.
forgot to mention noted on Friday a Streeltlite with red '44' branding.
2708, 2711, 2712, 2738 now left for new homes.
surely Cannock could have 2738, they have the sister bus here 2739
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 23, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
forgot to mention noted on Friday a Streeltlite with red '44' branding.
3330 noted this morning branded for the '44'
So something I haven't done for soooo long Is actually go for a ride on a local bus. I wanted to try out Arriva Midlands West new Wright Streetlites which they have just introduced 25 of them.
First they are Micro hybrids which is very good the system costs in the region of £10,000 which gives them an understandable £5,000 high price tag than a Wright Pulsar (which they are replacing).
They also have Leather Seats (always a winner with me) and are generally quite comfortable. Also like the LED lighting on board and they were quiet walm.
But they don't have radiators on board which is a negative as I find Wrights air system isn't the best.
A few people have said about the gear box. It made a "jerk" only once in the 2 hours I spent on a number of them.
Underpowered another point. Well underpowered compared to what? compared to a Volvo B7 id say about the same, to a Mercedes powered id say about the same. But yes it would be underpowered if you compared it to a much larger cummins engine or a Citaro.
From the outside I don't think they look great. I don't like the front end and I don't like the side with the windows, but it is bonded glazing which I think looks smarts.
The leather seats are smart and comfortable and something which I think should no be a feature on every bus so that's a real winner for me!
The biggest negative for me is that they are much smaller than what they are replacing!!! The 44 in Telford is one of Arriva Midlands busiest routes (quoting them). So the Wright Pulsars could carry 75 where the streetlites is 67 so that is a reduction in capacity of over 10%. Surely you should be increasing capacity on a main route? The 44 in Telford needs either a low height decker or a heavyduty bus like a Wright Volvo with a 100 people capacity. One of the buses I was on at 15:00 was turning people away at its 7th bus stop out of wellington.
So to summarise the appeal to the normal punter yes they are winner if there is room. They are very smart inside, they are warm and that's exactly what the customer wants, but if the customer cant get on them because they is no room its a massive negative!
For me though A very similar priced Optare Versa/Metrocity is a much more better choice and Id have an optare any day instead! But for the 44 they are simple no good!
Quote from: bwsau cymru on February 26, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
So something I haven't done for soooo long Is actually go for a ride on a local bus. I wanted to try out Arriva Midlands West new Wright Streetlites which they have just introduced 25 of them.
The biggest negative for me is that they are much smaller than what they are replacing!!! The 44 in Telford is one of Arriva Midlands busiest routes (quoting them). So the Wright Pulsars could carry 75 where the streetlites is 67 so that is a reduction in capacity of over 10%. Surely you should be increasing capacity on a main route? The 44 in Telford needs either a low height decker or a heavyduty bus like a Wright Volvo with a 100 people capacity. One of the buses I was on at 15:00 was turning people away at its 7th bus stop out of wellington.
How do you come to the conclusion they are much smaller that what they are replacing? They are 44 seaters and the same length within a few cm, only difference is they only have 23 standing not 31 which is due to vehicle weight not size. I cannot remember the last time I saw 31 people stood on any normal single decker.
Not denying the route might need larger vehicles though
they are 11.5? half a metre shorter? My statistic is in the passenger carrying capability. Using the 44 service since I was 12 years old I have seen how many get on it and you could turn away people on a commander, so yes I really think that over a 10& reduction will make a difference.
Don't get me wrong I think for the average normal passenger they are great but I still would have a versa. I think on routes 11&22 they are the perfect vehicle.
But for the 44 as I said 10% is a big reduction
Quote from: bwsau cymru on February 26, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
they are 11.5? half a metre shorter? My statistic is in the passenger carrying capability. Using the 44 service since I was 12 years old I have seen how many get on it and you could turn away people on a commander, so yes I really think that over a 10& reduction will make a difference.
Don't get me wrong I think for the average normal passenger they are great but I still would have a versa. I think on routes 11&22 they are the perfect vehicle.
But for the 44 as I said 10% is a big reduction
Yes, but when they are turning people away, how many people are actually on board? I would doubt there are 31 people standing. The 50cm shorter is only room for one extra standing passenger, and I think you will find that the commanders are not actually 12m long, closer to 11.8. Versas are even shorter at 11.08m.
What the board says at the front for capacity, and what you can fit on comfortably are two completely different things. PB's bendis have a standing capacity of close to 100, try fiittng them on!
Quote from: Tony on February 27, 2015, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: bwsau cymru on February 26, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
they are 11.5? half a metre shorter? My statistic is in the passenger carrying capability. Using the 44 service since I was 12 years old I have seen how many get on it and you could turn away people on a commander, so yes I really think that over a 10& reduction will make a difference.
Don't get me wrong I think for the average normal passenger they are great but I still would have a versa. I think on routes 11&22 they are the perfect vehicle.
But for the 44 as I said 10% is a big reduction
Yes, but when they are turning people away, how many people are actually on board? I would doubt there are 31 people standing. The 50cm shorter is only room for one extra standing passenger, and I think you will find that the commanders are not actually 12m long, closer to 11.8. Versas are even shorter at 11.08m.
What the board says at the front for capacity, and what you can fit on comfortably are two completely different things. PB's bendis have a standing capacity of close to 100, try fiittng them on!
The buses used on the 44 were 59 plate Pulsars, not Commanders
Are old cadets going to be the norm on the 890/891 now that the versa's have left? The 11.45 890 from wolves bus station was rammed and had standees. Although versas were similar size at least they had legroom, cadets have hardly any plus vile urban 90 seats ( unless theyre 52/03 plate), not exactly suitable for longer journeys. W108 ewu was in use as staff shuttle in telford, itd have been far more useful in service lol or even treat passengers to an old scania :)
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 06, 2015, 01:06:18 PM
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Quote from: tphi12000 on February 23, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
forgot to mention noted on Friday a Streeltlite with red '44' branding.
3329-3331/3334 now branded for 44.
Is the full batch in use now? I'm down there twice the next fortnight so may try and clear the set
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 06, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 06, 2015, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 24, 2015, 12:44:17 PMyes all are in service mainly on route 44.
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 23, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
forgot to mention noted on Friday a Streeltlite with red '44' branding.
3329-3331/3334 now branded for 44.
Is the full batch in use now? I'm down there twice the next fortnight so may try and clear the set
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 06, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 06, 2015, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 24, 2015, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 23, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
forgot to mention noted on Friday a Streeltlite with red '44' branding.
3329-3331/3334 now branded for 44.
Is the full batch in use now? I'm down there twice the next fortnight so may try and clear the set
Yes, all on the road now.
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 06, 2015, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 24, 2015, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 23, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
forgot to mention noted on Friday a Streeltlite with red '44' branding.
3329-3331/3334 now branded for 44.
3333 and 3338 also wear 44 branding. I'm not a fan of branding but it does suit well
Also, is it safe to assume Telford no longer have B6's?
Two were out last Saturday. ..b6 I mean
I went to Telford yesterday via the X5 from Shrewsbury. I saw all of the 28 Streetlites in about 2 hours at the Bus Station. There were 10 on the 11/22, 13 on the 44, 3 on the 12 ( coincidentally these three were the original allocation 3310-12 - are these three different from the others in any way, such that they have to be allocated to the 12? ). The other two were 3326 which was a late change on the 33 and 3341 which spent the entire time I was there on The Tesco shuttle. 3489 was still sounding strong on the staff shuttle to Stafford Park depot.
How much is a return on the 890 from Wolves to Bridgnorth?
Thanks in advance
Quote from: uniquicity on March 12, 2015, 12:29:30 AM
How much is a return on the 890 from Wolves to Bridgnorth?
Thanks in advance
They don't do returns, just get a £6.20 day saver
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 12, 2015, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: uniquicity on March 12, 2015, 12:29:30 AM
How much is a return on the 890 from Wolves to Bridgnorth?
Thanks in advance
They don't do returns, just get a £6.20 day saver
For information, it is £3.40 single
Quote from: cheshire exile on March 11, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
I went to Telford yesterday via the X5 from Shrewsbury. I saw all of the 28 Streetlites in about 2 hours at the Bus Station. There were 10 on the 11/22, 13 on the 44, 3 on the 12 ( coincidentally these three were the original allocation 3310-12 - are these three different from the others in any way, such that they have to be allocated to the 12? ). The other two were 3326 which was a late change on the 33 and 3341 which spent the entire time I was there on The Tesco shuttle. 3489 was still sounding strong on the staff shuttle to Stafford Park depot.
They don't have leather seats.
Unsure if they are mirco hybrids too
Quote from: bwsau cymru on March 13, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: cheshire exile on March 11, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
I went to Telford yesterday via the X5 from Shrewsbury. I saw all of the 28 Streetlites in about 2 hours at the Bus Station. There were 10 on the 11/22, 13 on the 44, 3 on the 12 ( coincidentally these three were the original allocation 3310-12 - are these three different from the others in any way, such that they have to be allocated to the 12? ). The other two were 3326 which was a late change on the 33 and 3341 which spent the entire time I was there on The Tesco shuttle. 3489 was still sounding strong on the staff shuttle to Stafford Park depot.
They don't have leather seats.
Unsure if they are mirco hybrids too
All Streetlites are micro hybrid now
check out the display on the front of the streetlite https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16607270457/
Quote from: Solo1 on March 14, 2015, 08:01:12 PM
check out the display on the front of the streetlite https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16607270457/
ALL of Arriva's buses have that programmed in to them it's nothing new
Ex Stafford darts 2266/67/97 have arrived at Telford, 2135 having a new front end and moving on to Derby
Quote from: Busman Jamie on March 16, 2015, 07:32:54 PM
Ex Stafford darts 2266/67/97 have arrived at Telford, 2135 having a new front end and moving on to Derby
Do you mean 2296?
2287 even
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 10, 2015, 11:22:23 PM
3329-3331/3334 now branded for 44.
3333 and 3338 also wear 44 branding. I'm not a fan of branding but it does suit well
Also, is it safe to assume Telford no longer have B6's?
3332 & 3337 are two more noted with 44 branding this morning
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 19, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
3332 & 3337 are two more noted with 44 branding this morning
Yes no more B6's 2613 and 2617 are helping out at Wardles, 2614 is withdrawn.
3606 now 9506 has joined the fleet as a training vehicle.
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 19, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
3332 & 3337 are two more noted with 44 branding this morning
3335 is another branded - 10 buses now branded 3329-3338
A W-EWU and an N-PUT on TD 55
wonder if this is due to Banga running on the 891 PD0000478/415 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Telford Town Centre Bus Station
Finish Point: Shifnal, Victoria Road
Via:
Service Number: X92
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 30-MAY-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday Daytime
Whats the point of an express to shifnal? Why not make it to wolves?
481 branded 3782 is on the 891, will do the 1545 off Wolverhampton
Today 3489 was on the 12.50 33 from Telford BS to Muxton, 3468 was on the staff shuttle and 4807 was on the 12.
2135 has now left for Wednesfield, replaced with temporary 2104.
Because arriva's website is crap. Can anyone tell me the price of a Adult and Child return on the full route of the 891 please :) much appreciated.
Quote from: NXDom on May 01, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Because arriva's website is crap. Can anyone tell me the price of a Adult and Child return on the full route of the 891 please :) much appreciated.
It's probably just as cheap to get an Arriva Midland Day Saver mate
Adult = £6.20
Child = £4.10
YJ59BVH 3746 and YJ59BVL 3748 was on rail rep between Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury today
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 04, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
YJ59BVH 3746 and YJ59BVL 3748 was on rail rep between Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury today
As was 3779
3468 is on the 55 this morning
Does wednesfield have next to no requirement for full sized single deckers then? So much for the walsall to lichfield services requiring them lol. Any chance BU03 HRJ/HRK will come to wednesfield from cannock to complete ( or almost complete ) the batch?
Quote from: Tosher on May 29, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
Vehicle movements to take place this weekend:
2729, 2730 and 2733 to Wednesfield. Two others will follow next week, numbers tbc.
3732, 33, 34, 35, to Telford. Four others to follow next week.
3618 the sole B10 will move to Hinckley
2133 is here on loan, brought from reserve in Derby this morning.
I would assume 2738 and 2734 will be the other two.
Shame to lose the Centros but they're only down the road.
In other news, 4807 I'm told is parked in Shrewsbury garage.
I'm 99% sure that i passed 4807 in Leicester today?
Quote from: Nathan on May 29, 2015, 11:10:06 PM
I'm 99% sure that i passed 4807 in Leicester today?
We passed 4808, mate :)
Quote from: Alex on May 29, 2015, 11:16:09 PM
We passed 4808, mate :)
I couldn't remember if it was 4807 or 4808 we passed. Its Arriva. I don't really pay attention to them. I was more interested in getting a photo of the Heritage Leicester livered B7RLE ::)
Quote from: Nathan on May 29, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
I couldn't remember if it was 4807 or 4808 we passed. Its Arriva. I don't really pay attention to them. I was more interested in getting a photo of the Heritage Leicester livered B7RLE ::)
You need the best eyesight in the world trying to ID an Arriva bus by fleetnumber
Quote from: Bob on May 29, 2015, 10:59:49 PM
Does wednesfield have next to no requirement for full sized single deckers then? So much for the walsall to lichfield services requiring them lol. Any chance BU03 HRJ/HRK will come to wednesfield from cannock to complete ( or almost complete ) the batch?
It could be a possibility Bob yes.
Quote from: Tosher on May 29, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
Vehicle movements to take place this weekend:
2729, 2730 and 2733 to Wednesfield. Two others will follow next week, numbers tbc.
3732, 33, 34, 35, to Telford. Four others to follow next week.
3618 the sole B10 will move to Hinckley
2133 is here on loan, brought from reserve in Derby this morning.
Centro numbers to be confirmed, definately won't be 32 or 35
3732/5 staying or moving elsewhere?
Quote from: Bob on May 30, 2015, 09:24:46 AM
3732/5 staying or moving elsewhere?
Still going, just not today.
Quote from: BN on May 30, 2015, 09:28:20 AM
Still going, just not today.
sorry if I have missed this but which Centros did make the trip to Telford ?
All of them bar 3737 which is being painted.
Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone has a copy of the new routes that were discussed during the sessions?
I'm at work 9-5 so did not chance to pop into one of the held sessions.
Cheers
J.
Quote from: jtaylor69 on June 14, 2015, 09:28:13 PM
Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone has a copy of the new routes that were discussed during the sessions?
I'm at work 9-5 so did not chance to pop into one of the held sessions.
Cheers
J.
No idea on new routes, but the renumbering is as follows:
11/22-1/2
12-3
481-5/5A
891/892-8/8A
101 (?)/436/890-90
Don't know any of the others, but hope that helps :)
Quote from: Alex on June 14, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
No idea on new routes, but the renumbering is as follows:
11/22-1/2
12-3
481-5/5A
891/892-8/8A
101 (?)/436/890-90
Don't know any of the others, but hope that helps :)
Thanks Alex.
A little birdie suggests that 33 and 55 will be merging so I can presume that it will be number 6 or something.
Also I presume 44 will be 4?
As long as there are good services between Donnington and Telford Town I will be happy :)
Quote from: jtaylor69 on June 14, 2015, 09:55:24 PM
Thanks Alex.
A little birdie suggests that 33 and 55 will be merging so I can presume that it will be number 6 or something.
Also I presume 44 will be 4?
As long as there are good services between Donnington and Telford Town I will be happy :)
No idea, i live in Wolverhampton, so wouldn't have a clue. Only reason i know is that Telford Public Transport have posted it on Facebook
Still, can't understand the reasoning for the 481 becoming the 5
Looks like theyve just renumbered loads of the routes and not made lots of changes
Yeah the 481 renumber may be the most confusing and would probably be confused with 55 if the renumbering closely resembles their double digit counterparts
Telford down to 10 proper Y-UON Cadets I believe with 2718 withdrawn and 2713 at MRC.
Quote from: jtaylor69 on June 14, 2015, 10:25:19 PM
Yeah the 481 renumber may be the most confusing and would probably be confused with 55 if the renumbering closely resembles their double digit counterparts
Can't remember exactly but the 481 (5) is being rerouted around Donnington I think, with a 5A variant as well so might be replacing the 55 in some way. Don't know Telford very well and only had a quick scan of the registration last week so can't remember entirely what the new route was.
Here's the planned routes it seems:
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Telford Bus Station
Via: Dawley, Woodside, Madeley, Sutton Hill, Brookside
Name or No: 1/2/3
From: Leegomery
To: Madeley
Via: Wellington, Oakengates, Telford
Name or No: 4
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Telford Bus Station
Via: Oakengates, Donnington, Newport, Gnosall
Name or No: 5/5A
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Wellington, Lawley, Overdale
Via: Muxton, Donnington
Name or No: 6/7/7A
From: Telford
To: Wolverhampton
Via: Shifnal, Cosford, Albrighton
Name or No: 8
From: Telford
To: Bridgnorth
Via: Dawley, Ironbridge, Broseley, Nordley
Name or No: 9
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Oakengates
Via: Priorslee, Ketley Bank
Name or No: 14
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Wellington/Arleston
Via: Oakengates, Wombridge, Hadley, Princess Royal
Name or No: 15
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Roddington/Roden
Via: Overdale, Hadley, Prinxcess Royal, Shawbirch
Name or No: 16
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Much Wenlock
Via: Madeley, Ironbridge, Broseley
Name or No: 18
From: Telford Bus Station
To: Lightmoor
Via: Dawley Bank, Lawley
Name or No: 19
A full list of changes in Bus Stands at Telford Bus Station from the 19th July.
https://www.facebook.com/387730751411746/photos/a.396804923837662.1073741830.387730751411746/415798955271592/?type=1
2713 at Wigston depot
The last ex London Dart 2168 has now joined the fleet at Telford.
2168 would be in Arriva Livery Colours
WhAt do Arriva use on the 81 service Shrewsbury- Telford?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 26, 2015, 06:35:42 PM
WhAt do Arriva use on the 81 service Shrewsbury- Telford?
@Trident 4194 Shrewsbury run the 81 with Versas :)
Arriva have today finally released all the timetables for the service charges in Telford from the 19th July it makes for interesting reading that's for sure.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/telford-ringing-the-changes2/ (https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/telford-ringing-the-changes2/)
Quote from: Reece on June 29, 2015, 01:06:21 PM
Arriva have today finally released all the timetables for the service charges in Telford from the 19th July it makes for interesting reading that's for sure.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/telford-ringing-the-changes2/ (https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/telford-ringing-the-changes2/)
And perhaps not too surprising is that the Wolves to Bridgnorth service won't be going to Shrewsbury, but Telford instead as the 9.
Dont see the point in all the renumbering, same as nx they had a system that worked well for years ie 3xx Walsall 5xx wolves then changed it and duplicate route numbers etc. Never saw the point. Wasnt broken didnt need fixing. Dread to think what theyll do to Cannock routes in the review. To be fair theres not much they could change, with regard to serving other areas.
Bridgnorth obs today:
2727 Y367 UON on 101
2717 Y357 UON and 3322 FJ64 ETY on 890
2503 YJ57 EKD on 113
2275 FL52 MML on 297
2728 BF52 OAG on 99
2104 JJZ 5278 spare
Is there any recommended routes that are scenic and fast
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 04, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Is there any recommended routes that are scenic and fast
Dunno about fast, but a loop of Wolves-Bridgnorth-Telford-Wolves might be an idea!
What's the Telford to Stafford route like scenicwise?
Did think about going to Shrewsbury, but I might train it there rather than bus it.
Quote from: Bob on June 29, 2015, 06:09:43 PM
Dont see the point in all the renumbering, same as nx they had a system that worked well for years ie 3xx Walsall 5xx wolves then changed it and duplicate route numbers etc. Never saw the point. Wasnt broken didnt need fixing. Dread to think what theyll do to Cannock routes in the review. To be fair theres not much they could change, with regard to serving other areas.
And in the case of the Wolverhampton services, not to duplicate any NX numbers & fit in with their scheme.
Quote from: Westy on July 04, 2015, 04:41:28 PM
Dunno about fast, but a loop of Wolves-Bridgnorth-Telford-Wolves might be an idea!
What's the Telford to Stafford route like scenicwise?
Did think about going to Shrewsbury, but I might train it there rather than bus it.
Telford to Stafford is a nice run once you've cleared the estates. Can be a blur through Newport and Gnosall due to fast stretches. We can only make suggestions based on how far you want to travel.
2168 LF52UNV just noted arriving in Stafford on a 481.
3781 3783 3784 noted today with new route 5 branding
No route branding for 6/7/8 services?
Quote from: Tosher on July 17, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
Hi
Route branding will be as follows from Monday
Services 1&2, light green. 3324 - 3327
Service 3, orange. 3321 - 3323
Service 4, red. 3328 - 3338
Service 5, purple. 3781 - 3784
All Wrekin Connect branding will gradually be disposed of.
Best
Tosher
3328 is 1/2 branded
3332 on 8/8A (4 branded)
DAF Deckers 4787/4810 were on the 3, and 4806 was on the X92. Also 3 branded StreetLite 3323 was on the 4 (along with an SB120 and a couple of Pulsars). A 4 branded StreetLite also appeared on the 5A this afternoon
Does 2168 have a regular route, as I haven't seen it yet after 3 visits to Telford, or am I looking in the wrong place!?
Quote from: John on August 25, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
DAF Deckers 4787/4810 were on the 3, and 4806 was on the X92. Also 3 branded StreetLite 3323 was on the 4 (along with an SB120 and a couple of Pulsars). A 4 branded StreetLite also appeared on the 5A this afternoon
Does 2168 have a regular route, as I haven't seen it yet after 3 visits to Telford, or am I looking in the wrong place!?
@John Hi mate 2168 being a MPD can usually be found on the Ironbridge Park & Ride the route which has a PVR of 3 buses that can usually be anything but there is usually at least 1 Dart allocated. If it's not on there then it would be on the 297 Bridgnorth to Kidderminster or 738/740 Ludlow to Knighton or its in the depot. hope that helps :)
Quote from: Reece on August 28, 2015, 07:31:28 PM
@John Hi mate 2168 being a MPD can usually be found on the Ironbridge Park & Ride the route which has a PVR of 3 buses that can usually be anything but there is usually at least 1 Dart allocated. If it's not on there then it would be on the 297 Bridgnorth to Kidderminster or 738/740 Ludlow to Knighton or its in the depot. hope that helps :)
Thanks for that
@Reece. I had not realized there were so many routes out of Telford itself! I only knew about the 101/297
Anyone interested get your last rides the weekend on 3489.
Is 3468 3489 both be leaving the fleet soon after 19 Years the Scanas first came to Leicester in 1996 it's been around At Coalville Southgates & Telford
No just 3489.
I think it's this garage but 2988 is parked up in Bilston Bus Station. Anyone know why?
Quote from: Dom on September 24, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
I think it's this garage but 2988 is parked up in Bilston Bus Station. Anyone know why?
2988 is back at Wednesfield, for a contract, i'd imagine. Not sure what, though?
There will be some new recruits appaering at Telford from Monday. Look out for them.
Quote from: Alex on September 24, 2015, 02:54:43 PM
2988 is back at Wednesfield, for a contract, i'd imagine. Not sure what, though?
a versa a Wednesfield didn't know they had versa be fore
2145 now on fleet at Telford. 2168 is its replacement at Wednesfield.
Quote from: BN on October 24, 2015, 11:31:41 AM
2145 now on fleet at Telford. 2168 is its replacement at Wednesfield.
That will make 2168 a whole lot easier to find!
Not exactly rare but worth a mention one of the 64-plate Streetlites was on the 297 yesterday
Quote from: John on October 24, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
That will make 2168 a whole lot easier to find!
And on the 82/208 today.
2146 now transferred in.
3 branded Streetlite 3321 seen leaving Wolverhampton on an 8A this afternoon.
2147 now at Telford as 2275's replacement.
Pleased to see 3468 (N168 PUT) is still around just seen it in Broseley on the 9 heading towards Bridgnorth
A Centro did the 1630 8 off Wolves if of interest vice Pulsar.
Shrewsbury Park and ride versa noted on the X92 this evening think it was 2966 but not 100%
Quote from: tphi12000 on November 27, 2015, 11:18:03 PM
Shrewsbury Park and ride versa noted on the X92 this evening think it was 2966 but not 100%
Shifnal Express? I was told that was supposed to be being knocked on the head due to lack of people using it ::)
Quote from: Will on November 27, 2015, 11:24:54 PM
Shifnal Express? I was told that was supposed to be being knocked on the head due to lack of people using it ::)
Surely those should have been extended to Wolverhampton, to make it a more attractive alternative to the train?
Subject to the usual. A final running day is being planned for 3468 on Saturday 19th December.
The vehicle is expected to run on service 9 (Wolverhampton - Bridgnorth - Telford) at the following times.
0705 Grove Estate, Bridgnorth - Telford
0850 Telford - Wolverhampton (0953 at Bridgnorth)
1045 Wolverhampton - Telford (1129 at Bridgnorth)
1250 Telford - Wolverhampton (1353 at Bridgnorth)
1445 Wolverhampton - Telford (1529 at Bridgnorth)
1650 Telford - Bridgnorth
Hope of interest.
2148 and 2149 nw n fleet here.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 06, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
Subject to the usual. A final running day is being planned for 3468 on Saturday 19th December.
The vehicle is expected to run on service 9 (Wolverhampton - Bridgnorth - Telford) at the following times.
0705 Grove Estate, Bridgnorth - Telford
0850 Telford - Wolverhampton (0953 at Bridgnorth)
1045 Wolverhampton - Telford (1129 at Bridgnorth)
1250 Telford - Wolverhampton (1353 at Bridgnorth)
1445 Wolverhampton - Telford (1529 at Bridgnorth)
1650 Telford - Bridgnorth
Hope of interest.
A final running day? Its not going anywhere.
Quote from: BN on December 13, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
A final running day? Its not going anywhere.
Expand please
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 13, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
Expand please
I know what he means he saying that all it is doing in service is 9's all day at least when National Express held the farewell day for the Spectra/Merc they were doing X51 & 301 not just one route back & forth
Quote from: Will on December 13, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
I know what he means he saying that all it is doing in service is 9's all day at least when National Express held the farewell day for the Spectra/Merc they were doing X51 & 301 not just one route back & forth
I still dont understand, there is no running day for 3468 because its not going anywhere.
Quote from: BN on December 13, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
I still dont understand, there is no running day for 3468 because its not going anywhere.
So it will continue in service after 19th?
Quote from: BN on December 13, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
I still dont understand, there is no running day for 3468 because its not going anywhere.
Look on here - Facebook link (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=796702197142919&set=gm.1654326338140615&type=3).
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 13, 2015, 04:19:31 PM
Look on here - Facebook link (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=796702197142919&set=gm.1654326338140615&type=3).
Absolute rubbish, it is still able and will be used on school services. It is not being withdrawn or scrapped.
Quote from: BN on December 13, 2015, 07:16:43 PM
Absolute rubbish, it is still able and will be used on school services. It is not being withdrawn or scrapped.
what I think is it only going to be used for schools & not public service
One hand doesn't seem to know what the other is doing!
See Arriva here:-
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/scania-3468-swan-song/
There is also a nice official poster around with a picture.
proberbly final day on public service
3468 N168 PUT will be on school services only from new year in 2016
Where could I get 3489 using my nbus ticket? Tettenhall wood?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 14, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
Where could I get 3489 using my nbus ticket? Tettenhall wood?
Bridgnorth Road, The Mermaid. At the junction with Windmill Lane is the last stop before the border on the 9.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 14, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
Bridgnorth Road, The Mermaid. At the junction with Windmill Lane is the last stop before the border on the 9.
Could you reccomend a place where I could easily get back to wolves on a different service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 14, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
Could you reccomend a place where I could easily get back to wolves on a different service
Compton Road, Compton Square outside the Oddfellows pub where there are safe crossing points for you to catch the Arriva 9/10 or NXWM 10/62/62A.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 14, 2015, 05:56:00 PM
Compton Road, Compton Square outside the Oddfellows pub where there are safe crossing points for you to catch the Arriva 9/10 or NXWM 10/62/62A.
Alternative to that is just before the Shell Petrol Station but Compton Square by the Canal Bridge going towards Bridgnorth is ideal
3489??? thats long gone, dont you mesn 3468?
3468 reported out on the Tesco freebie today.
2150 now here on fleet.
2988 on loan here.
Not reported as yet is that the 59 plate Pulsars at TF and OS have had their gearboxes remapped to this ecolife rubbish. However they do scream up the A41 now more than before which makes me smile.
Is that why they seemed a lot nippier than the cannock ones previously?
Quote from: Bob on January 07, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
Is that why they seemed a lot nippier than the cannock ones previously?
Yes but Cannocks 61 plate were remapped a year or so back. The 63 plates are probably the best as they were set in a way that feels right from new.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 07, 2016, 07:40:11 PM
Yes but Cannocks 61 plate were remapped a year or so back. The 63 plates are probably the best as they were set in a way that feels right from new.
Interesting this!
It's nothing to do with the gearbox and is actually a fuel-saving economy system and all vehicles are set the same, so there would be little if any difference between batches. 63-plates included.
Quote from: 646 on January 07, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
Interesting this!
It's nothing to do with the gearbox and is actually a fuel-saving economy system and all vehicles are set the same, so there would be little if any difference between batches. 63-plates included.
Everyone always refers to gearboxes when you mention said technology. Granted there's no difference in set up. When I refer to a difference, I refer more to those spotter instincts how the older Pulsars felt to travel on before modification. Apologies for the errors in my original post.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 07, 2016, 07:52:07 PM
Everyone always refers to gearboxes when you mention said technology. Granted there's no difference in set up. When I refer to a difference, I refer more to those spotter instincts how the older Pulsars felt to travel on before modification. Apologies for the errors in my original post.
Not at all, just wanted to clarify and your perceptions are interesting.
Quote from: 646 on January 07, 2016, 08:03:21 PM
Not at all, just wanted to clarify and your perceptions are interesting.
I think with my eyesight not being that great I tend to pick up on noises and the way something feels to travel on. But I'm also one of those hard to find midlanders who like Arriva. To put that into English in regard to the Pulsars, the 13/63 plates are rapid and responsive. The 59/61 plates are still great, but they don't have that sharpness the newer ones have but that isn't a negative towards fuel efficiency technology. They're still a welcome change every few weeks to a B7RLE Eclipse 2. As for the 57 plates, they just like to be heard but didn't these have something that made them more environmentally friendly, I did read an article at the time but I admit to having forgotten. Hopefully there's something meaningful from my ramblings. If not then I'll have an early night lol.
Driving past and noticed a route branded 11 on an Enviro 200
Seems to be sporting the same red as the 4s
Telford's new recruit should be on site now in the form of 4803. 4200 now back at Tamworth.
Quote from: jtaylor69 on February 24, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
Driving past and noticed a route branded 11 on an Enviro 200
Seems to be sporting the same red as the 4s
noted 2146 branded for the 11
Quote from: BN on February 27, 2016, 12:04:40 PM
Telford's new recruit should be on site now in the form of 4803. 4200 now back at Tamworth.
Is 4803 in use yet? Only one I didn't see yesterday.
Clocked 4787 on the Arriva Staff Shuttle, 4806 on Tesco freebie, 4807 on the 18 and 4810 on the 13.
3756 now here from Cannock.
5 branded Pulsar (3784) is on the 3 today just seen it leave Telford Bus Station
Also the 1/2 branded 3324 was serving the 5A today.
The 5 branded Pulsar is still on the 3 as mentioned by Will.
I presume a lot are in for repairs at the moment hence the weird allocation?
3736 was on the 9 earlier bound for Wolverhampton I saw it on Bridgnorth - High Street makes me laugh though how it still has "Free Wi-Fi" stickers on the front but I bet pound to a penny it has been disconnected as 2267 claims it also has free Wi-Fi but when you try and connect to it you just get a blank page..... ::)
Can confirm that it works once you get past the non mobile friendly survey. Uses Three for data connection capped at about 2Mb.
4803 is still VOR but all repairs should be finished soon.
DLP68 has donated it's engine to 4810 so that should be back soon too.
PD0000478/421 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Telford and Wolverhampton given service number 8/8a effective from 24-Jul-2016.
Cancelled??? Hmmmmm
Is it an error they've run that route or similar for years
From my sources it's not an error. It is cancelled due to low patronage
Crikey...Wasn't that long ago they converted it to pulsars from cadets
Well banga will be happier now.
Yea says something though when Arriva are incapable of competing against them :D
Quote from: Bob on June 07, 2016, 08:39:49 PM
Yea says something though when Arriva are incapable of competing against them :D
Competing over more empty buses? The patronage is just not there so why run the route.
So if there was low patronage why was the route converted to larger capacity buses before the banga route was introduced? Any plans to axe any of your many poorly performing Cannock services?
With the 8 & 8a finishing what going to happen as banga doesn't run Saturdays unless they will add a Saturday service .wonder if they will increase the service like they did on 530 service
Looks like the train then next time I go over that way.
According to the E&S the services will continue. Any confirmation?
4802 will be Joining Telford soon from Thurmaston
Arriva travel centre at Telford has timetable for 96 route to Shrewsbury in the window. I'm not familiar with this area so is this the former GHA service freshly taken on ?
Quote from: JIM H on July 16, 2016, 08:02:31 PM
Arriva travel centre at Telford has timetable for 96 route to Shrewsbury in the window. I'm not familiar with this area so is this the former GHA service freshly taken on ?
@JIM H yes it was previously operated by Arriva until early 2015 when they lost it to GHA they ran it until they ceased trading on Wednesday Arriva have taken it back on I was told by one of the drivers yesterday that along with the 436, 576 & 511 it is a FREE service for 2 weeks until they can get it officially re-registered to being run by them
Quote from: Will on July 16, 2016, 09:41:29 PM
@JIM H yes it was previously operated by Arriva until early 2015 when they lost it to GHA they ran it until they ceased trading on Wednesday Arriva have taken it back on I was told by one of the drivers yesterday that along with the 436, 576 & 511 it is a FREE service for 2 weeks until they can get it officially re-registered to being run by them
is that the case with the services above if so are they all free
I can't see why they need to take a fortnight to register it. D.Jones have had registration accepted starting yesterday, including for the 5 to Llangollen, which Arriva have already started running.
Quote from: A R R I V A : S I on August 01, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
Still not sure which CK buses are supposed to have transferred to TD recently , believe 4 CK now at TD
I've seen pictures of 2375 and 3762 in Shrewsbury
No just one of rach
Any truth that Telford are expecting two B7RLE's from down south? Also is it confirmed what the Streetlites are being swapped with?
Which routes can I find the Telford DLAs on?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 22, 2016, 04:34:54 PM
Which routes can I find the Telford DLAs on?
Tesco freebie. X4 and 18
2748 has joined the fleet from Cannock.
Quote from: BN on October 08, 2016, 08:17:39 AM
2748 has joined the fleet from Cannock.
Is that why 4783 has turned up at Cannock?
Quote from: ntw456 on October 08, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Is that why 4783 has turned up at Cannock?
Its now in use at Derby
Telford getting 2140 2141 2142 2143 2144 3701 3702 3703 3704 3717 3718 2997
Leaving Telford for Milton Keyenes are 3319 3320 3324 3325 3326 3327 3328 3339 3340
3341 3342 3343
Quote from: leepenfold30 on October 15, 2016, 10:07:57 PM
Telford getting 2140 2141 2142 2143 2144 3701 3702 3703 3704 3717 3718 2997
Leaving Telford for Milton Keyenes are 3319 3320 3324 3325 3326 3327 3328 3339 3340
3341 3342 3343
Not quite.
Has Cannocks PVR plummeted then? By 6 buses
Wouldn't it make more sense to move Cannocks few remaining pulsars
Quote from: Bob on October 16, 2016, 01:17:19 AM
Has Cannocks PVR plummeted then? By 6 buses
No Bob, the main swap is 12 Streetlites for 12 Solos from MK. Not confirmed where they are all going yet.
Ahhhh
BN 5 Optare Solos heading for Thurmaston the other 7 heading for other depots
So 3717/18 are going 'home'
One of ems engine blew not long ago
Quote from: BN on October 16, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
No Bob, the main swap is 12 Streetlites for 12 Solos from MK. Not confirmed where they are all going yet.
Are these 12 x Solos older than the 12 x Streetlites they are being swapped for? I.e. are Arriva Midlands getting the poorer end of the exchange
They'll definitely be smaller lol
And given the very newest is 09 plate it's definitely another downgrading
Quote from: Winston on October 16, 2016, 02:37:36 PM
Are these 12 x Solos older than the 12 x Streetlites they are being swapped for? I.e. are Arriva Midlands getting the poorer end of the exchange
Yes Winston, they are 58 reg.
So telford is losing the streetlites but not all of these solos are going there?
Quote from: Bob on October 16, 2016, 08:36:38 PM
So telford is losing the streetlites but not all of these solos are going there?
Correct. They are not able to swap 12 LWB vehicles for 12 Solos as the capacity drop would be too much.
Why are they moving the street lites out for solos
Quote from: Solo1 on October 17, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
Why are they moving the street lites out for solos
Overcrowding on a good route in MK.
Whey could have some of wedsfields buses instead unless the loading are that bad it need solos
Maybe Tamworth will take some of the solos
Will Cannock be having any Solos? For its busier routes? 😂
Also are 3701-4 telford bound? & 3717/8
Quote from: Bob on October 17, 2016, 05:53:08 PM
Will Cannock be having any Solos? For its busier routes? 😂
4 Solos due here.
Quote from: BN on October 18, 2016, 08:38:13 PM
4 Solos due here.
Are they for any particular routes?
Also as there's six buses going will they receive two more buses? Talk about a downgrade for telford tho! 3704 in particular is knackered
Telford will love how well Cannock have maintained 3717. . Absolutely s#####d. . Sounds worse than 3704..
2143 now at Telford with 2140 2141 2142 2144 to follow
Quote from: leepenfold30 on October 25, 2016, 08:11:59 PM
2143 now at Telford with 2140 2141 2142 2144 to follow
They are already there.
3779 has been decorated in a festive livery
Yes, 3702 was in the 5/6 today
Something positive in the Arriva thread,
Looking forward to having some different DLA's on the 10 from end of next month.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 06, 2017, 08:12:49 PM
Something positive in the Arriva thread,
Looking forward to having some different DLA's on the 10 from end of next month.
Surely they ought to look at merging the 9 & 10 somehow?
That bit at Wightwick is the stumbling block ISTR.
Unless both are DDA compliant the answer is no. Even then given the age of the former I doubt it....
Quote from: markcf83 on March 08, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Unless both are DDA compliant the answer is no. Even then given the age of the former I doubt it....
They were both modified to deem them PSVAR compliant.
@SI Public Service Vehicle Accessibility Regulations
Quote from: S . V . B - Si on March 08, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
Sorry what is PSVAR ?
I am not very clued up
on the technical sides .
You could say i am not
an hardcore enthusiast
so dont know what all
the abreviation mean .
It is the correct term for DDA meaning it meets all the rules for the carriage of disabled people
I'm surprised they deemed them worth spending any money on
3704 was the worst. Horrific
It's going down hill here.
We used to have cream of the crop in terms of cleanliness, reliability and new buses. Seems we've gone full circle and now have awful cadets and centros.
I always liked the Centro. The body is nicer inside than commander. They never seemed as noisy inside as them either despite being the same chassis. The 52 plate commanders 3701-4 are truly vile vehicles. Horrendously noisy 3701 was about the best of a bad bunch
They were heaps. Cannock were so crap it took them years to even retrim em after all bar one or two of the other 52 plates were done. They were awful
Quote from: jtaylor69 on March 10, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
It's going down hill here.
We used to have cream of the crop in terms of cleanliness, reliability and new buses. Seems we've gone full circle and now have awful cadets and centros.
Been on 2748 earlier christ almighty never seen a bus with such filthy interior panels and ceiling! Was this recently a cannock vehicle? That'd explain a lot
2748 was a cannock bus, moved onto Telford the backend of 2016
Quote from: Bob on March 11, 2017, 11:49:56 AM
Been on 2748 earlier christ almighty never seen a bus with such filthy interior panels and ceiling! Was this recently a cannock vehicle? That'd explain a lot
You can't seriously blame Cannock for that, its been at Telford for 3 months or more!
Well Cannocks interiors aren't known for their cleanliness. I can't believe they've left the interior of that 55 plate darts or the 04 plate cadets.. faded threadbare seats definitely do a lot for Arriva's already s##t image in Cannock lol
Think there's 3 or 4 at Telford
Main site will tell you
PD0000478/449 Cancelled
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Shifnal, Drayton Road via Stafford Park, Shifnal
Service number: 8
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 May 2017
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 13, 2017, 06:29:32 PM
PD0000478/449 Cancelled
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Shifnal, Drayton Road via Stafford Park, Shifnal
Service number: 8
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 May 2017
Wondered if that was being cancelled, being replaced by an hourly extension of the 10 from Perton I believe.
Quote from: Cheese on March 13, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Wondered if that was being cancelled, being replaced by an hourly extension of the 10 from Perton I believe.
Would make a lot of sense, I did wonder how they were planning to run the 10 out if Telford beyond interworking with the 9, but as that's hourly and the 10 half hourly it wouldn't really work
So the 10 will go wolves to telford?
Quote from: SI on March 13, 2017, 08:30:18 PM
Main site stating that
Telford have 4 decker X448 FGP : Fleet 4807 X502 GG0 : Fleet 4806 Y479 UGC : Fleet 4802 Y485 UGC : Fleet 4803
However is main site correct are all 4 STILL at Telford to this day or have some gone ?
Main site is updated every month and those 4 are still at Telford on latest fleet list at the end of Feb.
PD0000478/342 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Wolverhampton to Perton
Service number: 10 (10A, 10B, 10S)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 May 2017
PD0000478/446 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Overdale via Forge Retail Park
Service number: 13
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 May 2017
PD0000478/384 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Brookside Sheards Lane, Station Road to William Brookes School, Much Wenlock
Service number: 894 (895, 896)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 May 2017
PD0000478/359 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford, The Rock to Sfifnal, Idsall School
Service number: 893
Service type: School or Works
Effective date: 20 Mar 2017
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Quote from: SI on March 30, 2017, 09:05:07 PM
Y479 UGC : Fleet : 4802 had severe rear fire . I think that could be last see of : Y479 UGC : as i
doubt it get repaired ? due to amount damage also age of the vehicle
Anyone have photo of rear damaged to show & would a replacement decker now come onto
the Telford depot fleet
When did that happen was on the Tesco free service at 10.30 this morning
Quote from: SI on March 30, 2017, 09:05:07 PM
Y479 UGC : Fleet : 4802
had severe rear fire . I
think that could be last
see of : Y479 UGC : as i
doubt it get repaired ?
due to amount damage
also age of the vehicle
Do you have any photo
of the rear damaged &
Could any replacement
decker now come onto
the Telford depot fleet
Look at "Accidents and Incidents" thread.
Quote from: JoNi on March 30, 2017, 06:28:01 PM
Reg plate visible
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/emergency-services/2017/03/30/bus-catches-fire-near-telford-retail-park/&ved=0ahUKEwij6O7O3_7SAhXLAcAKHVIJD8IQFgguMAM&usg=AFQjCNE-9ziH_uNdKMKpw0O0ZV2AidBGZA
Wednesfield 2731 at Telford
Quote from: leepenfold30 on April 11, 2017, 08:08:58 PM
Wednesfield 2731 at Telford
reserve 2746 covering for it at Wednesfield
Hopefully Cannock lose their more knackered cadets
Quote from: Bob on March 13, 2017, 07:53:49 PM
So the 10 will go wolves to telford?
Can't seem to access the timetable on the Twitter link provided, but looks like the evening & Sunday service on the 10 is going, leaving Nx on its own.
Why couldn't they at least try a evening & Sunday service between Wolverhampton & Telford as an experiment?
Will they use single deckers on 10?
https://bustimes.org.uk/services/cen_6-10-_-y11?date=2017-05-09
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Arriva website totally useless, has a link to timetable changes which just links back to the current timetable!
Quote from: mikestone on April 28, 2017, 06:42:30 PM
https://bustimes.org.uk/services/cen_6-10-_-y11?date=2017-05-09
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Arriva website totally useless, has a link to timetable changes which just links back to the current timetable!
The other link given to me by them doesn't work on my phone.
Just looked at your link
@mikestone, why don't they run that 1800 from Wolverhampton back to Telford instead of running short to Perton?
Do the buses turn into pumpkins if they are out after 1900?
Perhaps because they want to limit the drivers hours, assuming in other cases the driver gets his break in the bus station then finishes his day on local routes
Noted 4797 W368 VGJ back on old ground today, i.e. route 10. It however appeared to be the 15:25 ex Perton to Wolverhampton judging on where I saw it on exiting the area when passing it in Compton which appears to be the school timed turn. Does this mean other trips still drop a decker on school days?
Quote from: Depotosw on May 08, 2017, 09:56:05 PM
Noted 4797 W368 VGJ back on old ground today, i.e. route 10. It however appeared to be the 15:25 ex Perton to Wolverhampton judging on where I saw it on exiting the area when passing it in Compton which appears to be the school timed turn. Does this mean other trips still drop a decker on school days?
The daytime boards appear to be a mix of Cadets and E200's, interworking with the 13 at Telford.
Thanks, I did see an E200 and Cadet previously in the day from a distance on some turns.
Hello everyone just wanted to ask anyone if they have seen the above buses knocking about i have not seen them since they closed the garage at Wednesfield they were always around Wolverhampton working the number 10 service i often see 4797 working this service in fact i have seen it just today i went to Telford on Tuesday to try and clear the fleet there i am down to 9 but this does not include the above 3 any info on the above will be very helpful
Thank you
Mark
Quote from: mark114 on October 13, 2017, 06:35:33 PM
Hello everyone just wanted to ask anyone if they have seen the above buses knocking about i have not seen them since they closed the garage at Wednesfield they were always around Wolverhampton working the number 10 service i often see 4797 working this service in fact i have seen it just today i went to Telford on Tuesday to try and clear the fleet there i am down to 9 but this does not include the above 3 any info on the above will be very helpful
Thank you
Mark
Saw 4806 and 4807 last Friday in Telford, one was on the 18 (always seems to be a decker when I see that route) and one was on the Tesco Free bus.
Thank you so much for the up-date at least now i know they are still knocking about well 2 of them anyway
Thank you again
Hello can anyone confirm if 3718 as been transferred to High Wycombe and 3705 as been transferred to Telford as the recent up dates show they have
Thank you
Quote from: mark114 on December 03, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
Hello can anyone confirm if 3718 as been transferred to High Wycombe and 3705 as been transferred to Telford as the recent up dates show they have
Thank you
This has been confirmed by someone at Telford depot.
Quote from: mark114 on December 03, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
Hello can anyone confirm if 3718 as been transferred to High Wycombe and 3705 as been transferred to Telford as the recent up dates show they have
Thank you
I think
@Tony is a reliable source
@mark114 , you don't have to confirm everything on the website as it is obtained directly from the operator.
Quote from: Adam 404 on December 05, 2017, 08:19:27 PM
I think @Tony is a reliable source @mark114 , you don't have to confirm everything on the website as it is obtained directly from the operator.
The information comes from the gentleman that does the same job as me deciding which vehicles are where
Thank you so much Tony for answering my post for one minute I did not question your source well if Telford depot say they have well it must be true but thank you again much appreciated
Mark
Hi Adam 404 thank you for your post please do not get me wrong I was not questioning Tony's information for one minute the only reason I wanted to confirm is because I travel to Telford daily and the bus in question 3705 I had not seen it about I hope this clears up any misunderstanding but thank you again for your post
Mark
@Nathan what buses are transponder fitted?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 05, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
@Nathan what buses are transponder fitted?
4797 definitely is, 4803/4807 probably are, unsure about 4806
All of the E200s (2140-50) and Cadets 2730-32 do as well
Basically anything that gets on the 10/13 usually
Are the deckers ever on there anymore?
Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2018, 01:06:53 PM
Are the deckers ever on there anymore?
The afternoon peak extra that comes off a school service is usually a DB250/ALX400. 4797 is the vehicle usually allocated.
Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2018, 01:06:53 PM
Are the deckers ever on there anymore?
How has it gone from deckers to mini e200s??
Proberbly doesn't warrant a decker now
How to kill a decent bus route?
Get Arriva to operate it!
That what it seems like to me!
(Certainly over here in West Mids county recently, with the shutting of Wednesfield, & they cant even operate from Walsall to Lichfield now, as its probably not cost effective to run it from Tamworth!)
I remember when they took over Wednesfield and i said it would be a massive failure like everything they seemed to run in Staffs/WM and a fair few on here having a bit of a go at me....but i was bang on the money every route they launched failed spectacularly and it shut down 😂😂😂😂 i also remember getting shouted down for querying deckers on the 10....its now empty E200s.... LOOOOOL
Visited the new bus station last month. Was the budget too little?
Badly laminated timetables of various fonts make the place look cheap.
You'd think that they'd have electronic destination boards and fixed signage?
MPD 2212 SN03 LGF which was at Shrewsbury recently was operating at Telford on route 3 Brookside on Saturday 27th January.
Notable and perhaps considered odd workings in Telford on Saturday 3rd February:
2144 MX12 JXF, 1/2 Sutton Hill
2702 YJ54 CKE, 4 Leegomery / Madeley
2730 BU03 HRC, 1/2 Sutton Hill (normally solid on 10)
2748 LF02 PLZ, 15 Arleston
2981 YJ09 MKZ, 7 Wellington
3310 FJ64 EVN, 5A Muxton, 5 Stafford
3321 FJ64 ETX, 7 Wellington
3322 FJ64 ETY, 5A Muxton, 5 Stafford
3734 YJ57 AZG, 10 Wolverhampton, drafted in on late afternoon turn (not sure if can activate transponder at Perton?)
3738 YJ57 AZP, 5A Muxton, 5 Stafford
3739 YJ57 AZR, 4 Leegomery / Madeley
3779 FL63 DXK, 3 Brookside (seems to appear alot on here)
The 1/2 and 7 had the usual mix of types including Centros, Commanders and Pulsars on otherwise but to complete picture for Commanders out:
3701 FD52 GGO, 1/2 Sutton Hill
3702 FD52 GGP, 7 Wellington
3703 FD52 GGU, 7 Wellington
3704 FD53 GGV, 1/2 Sutton Hill
3717 BF52 OAD, 1/2 Sutton Hill
Only Commander not noted out was 3705 BF52 NZR.
Hope of interest.
Chris
There is still a through route from Telford- wolves right? Every 2 hours? The timetable on arriva says so but it looks like it could be 2 different buses than one bus?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 05, 2018, 06:04:54 PM
There is still a through route from Telford- wolves right? Every 2 hours? The timetable on arriva says so but it looks like it could be 2 different buses than one bus?
Searching it into traveline will tell you if there are any through routes from Telford to Wolverhampton.
Arriva 9 - Telford - Bridgnorth - Wolverhampton - Every 2 hours.
Arriva 10 - Telford - Perton - Wolverhampton - Every 1 hour.
Banga 891 - Telford - Wolverhampton - Every 1 hour.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST
Banga by far the quickest
Hi Chris thank you for your list on the sightings you seen at Telford on Saturday the reason I went I wanted to see if I could get 3705 I was there from 1330 until 1600 but sadly I didn't see it regarding 3734 it worked the 1603 to Wolverhampton as I caught that one home also I can confirm this vehicle did not have transponder to activate the barrier at perton as it had to go the long way round
Hi Mark, no worries. I thought there seemed to be alot of odd allocations on the day. I was also looking for 3705, did have it in early January on the 7. Thanks for info regarding 3734 and Perton, confirmed a suspicion I had in mind when I saw it head out on that run.
Thanks
Chris
No problem Chris thank you for your reply I have just checked the fleet changes for January no sign of 3705 on the list so I am only thinking it's still at Telford well hope so anyway as I'm going back there other 17th
Mark
This thing about the transponder on Perton, I guess it's something fitted to the bus to activate it.
Surprised they don't have a mobile version, which can be moved from bus to bus, or is it more complicated than that?
No worries Mark, posted elsewhere that 3705 is currently been serviced at Telford which will explain its lack of appearance of late.
Again Chris thank you for the up date on 3705 as I did say earlier I was going to Telford again on the 17th but I might delay my trip by a week until the 24th so hopefully it might be out by then
Mark
Hi all am visiting Telford again tomorrow hoping to see 3705/4807 regarding 3705 I was told it's in for a service but that was around a couple of weeks ago as for 4807 am not hopeful as I have never seen it info on both would be greatly appreciated
Did you manage to find 3705? I found 4807 was on the Free Tesco Bus last time I went but that only operates during the week.
Hello TOF719S thank you so much for the post and also reply no sadly I could not make it today as I was called into work this morning not to worry there is always another time good to hear 4807 is still active I must go over there when the tesco bus runs in the week i might get lucky seeing it thank you again for your post greatly appreciated
Didn't see 3705 yesterday but wasn't around long to look, managed a round trip on 4803 on the 18 to Much Wenlock which is usually an E200 on a Saturday.
Hi Chris well at least you saw a decker and hoping your trip was a good one sadly I could not make it to Telford yesterday as I was called into work as for 3705 I believe our last conversion you said that it was in for a service so hopefully it will be out soon also I think if you go to any other location what I do is stay in one place for around 3 hours and if you don't see what you are looking for I tend to move on and in that time as you may know they will start repeating themselves so that's the time to move on anyway thank you again for you post which is greatly appreciated
Mark
I had a report of 3705 being on the route 7 today.
Hello TOF719S thank you so much for your post on the up date on 3705 which is greatly appreciated
Mark
2401 YJ58 PKF turned up from Cannock and operating at Telford, it appeared in Shrewsbury today on service 96. Loan or transfer?
Optare Solo 2537 YJ11OHH seen on the 96 to Shrewsbury this morning from telford
Heard from one of the regular 10 drivers that 4797 is withdrawn with gearbox problems. Can anyone confirm? Sad to see it gone if it has.
What service is the gold bus normal fou d o.
3780 is normally on the Local Telford routes I've mainly seen it on devices 1,2,4,5,5A,7 it would normally operate or anything to do the 50th Birthday events at weekends. But the best place to try and see her would be around Telford Bus Station
Quote from: Rich-82 on May 18, 2018, 12:36:13 AM
3780 is normally on the Local Telford routes I've mainly seen it on devices 1,2,4,5,5A,7 it would normally operate or anything to do the 50th Birthday events at weekends. But the best place to try and see her would be around Telford Bus Station
On the 5/6 today, just gone down South Walls in Stafford on the 6.
3780 was out today on ,5A
3329 seen earlier this evening in Wellington in the new livery with new logos. Is this the first for Telford?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 26, 2018, 12:12:11 AM
3329 seen earlier this evening in Wellington in the new livery with new logos. Is this the first for Telford?
3326 done as well I believe.
Quote from: BN on May 26, 2018, 08:46:48 AM
3326 done as well I believe.
3326 is indeed in the new livery, saw it last Saturday although you will have to go a bit further than Telford to find it as it's in Milton Keynes.
Quote from: Rich-82 on May 18, 2018, 12:36:13 AM
3780 is normally on the Local Telford routes I've mainly seen it on devices 1,2,4,5,5A,7 it would normally operate or anything to do the 50th Birthday events at weekends. But the best place to try and see her would be around Telford Bus Station
I saw it on Bridgnorth, High Street on the 9 (Wolverhampton bound) on Friday (25/05)
3780 In Stafford again today.
3754 has returned from Shrewsbury; seen on route 3 this morning.
Unidentitfied E200MMC seen in Telford on the Stafford Park/M54 roundabout; not sure whether it was doing service work or something, too far to see. Could someone confirm whether it's a loan or why it's here?
Quote from: PointerDart on June 27, 2018, 04:23:39 PM
Unidentitfied E200MMC seen in Telford on the Stafford Park/M54 roundabout; not sure whether it was doing service work or something, too far to see. Could someone confirm whether it's a loan or why it's here?
I've seen it today it is in the new arriva standard livery with silver dest board leaving Telford Central Train Station operating a shuttle service from the station as the A442 Main Road is Shut to allow Europe's largest crane to be built to lift a bridge into position at the weekend
Quote from: Rich-82 on June 28, 2018, 06:35:00 PM
I've seen it today it is in the new arriva standard livery with silver dest board leaving Telford Central Train Station operating a shuttle service from the station as the A442 Main Road is Shut to allow Europe's largest crane to be built to lift a bridge into position at the weekend
Ah yes I knew there was going to be a shuttle - thanks for the explanation :)
Also new timetables starting 21st July have been put up; more to follow later on, namely the locals that are changing.
Southern Counties-loaned Sprinter 1008 (I think) on the Tesco Shuttle today, covering for a decker with a smashed windscreen. There's a second one at the depot, both later to be used on the Perton shuttle from later this month.
Quote from: PointerDart on June 13, 2018, 06:27:36 PM
3754 has returned from Shrewsbury; seen on route 3 this morning.
It's currently working the 12 Stafford - Doxey (a Cannock route)
Quote from: Hector on July 06, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
It's currently working the 12 Stafford - Doxey (a Cannock route)
Is that a Cannock route? I always thought it was run by buses comin off the 5
Telford do doxeys on the evening
@Busman Jamie Actually 12s don't have any evening services now, so it is back to Cannock/Stafford, unless there's an odd working by Telford.
@Bob I think you're thinking of the 6 - Telford operate the 6 off the back of the 5 when it gets to Stafford.
@Hector I wouldn't be surprised if it's already moved - I haven't seen it for a few days tbh.
Mercedes Sprinter 1006 on number 3 service today. Dread to think how that will cope during the school run, while a SB200 is operating the 15.
A third Sprinter has turned up in Telford, although not doing a service run (I'm assuming type training because it seemed to have a few drivers on it and it was saying "Not in Service"); fleet number 1008 (BF67 WGC). So now Telford have 1005, 1006, and 1008. Great :/
Any one got a timetable for the new shuttle service from perton thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on July 15, 2018, 07:48:39 PM
Any one got a timetable for the new shuttle service from perton thanks
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=twm&line=0410B&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_63931300&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=AMN
The 11 (Telford - Lawley) is trialling one of the Sprinters over the summer in place of regular branded bus 2146. Could be a long-term thing if the bus is well received.
E200 2148 is currently on 5/6, in Stafford just now
Quote from: Busman Jamie on July 31, 2018, 04:10:13 PM
E200 2148 is currently on 5/6, in Stafford just now
Bet that was fun. Dread the day I have to ride on one of them for the whole route. ::)
I bet it was rammed by time it got to Telford
Quote from: Bob on July 31, 2018, 08:24:51 PM
I bet it was rammed by time it got to Telford
Not what it used to be tbh; loadings have declined again - have had times from Stafford to Donnington and it's practically empty.
Even still - an Enviro200 on a long-distance route; I hate them on regular routes as it is.
Strange isnt it. I couldnt believe they got rid of wolves to telford route that theyd run forever!
Quote from: Bob on July 31, 2018, 10:43:33 PM
Strange isnt it. I couldnt believe they got rid of wolves to telford route that theyd run forever!
Don't forget though, the reason why the 8 (formerly 891) was taken off was because of Banga. The Wolves link only came back because of Wednesfield closing and still having to run the 10s.
If theyre unable to compete with Banga........
Quote from: Bob on August 01, 2018, 06:20:55 AM
If theyre unable to compete with Banga........
Other thing is though, vast majority of the users on either service are pass-holders. And the OAP pass-holders tend to prefer independents, as I've seen when I stay in Stoke and you can see many older pass-holders preferring independents, such as Banga or, in Stoke's case, D&G. I believe a lot of it tends to be based on the service provided and the fact that it's more personable with it being independents (i.e. often same driver on same route, etc.) I could be wrong, mind.
2212 has re-appeared in Telford after another absence; seen on 15 this afternoon.
2210? I thought that was at Luton and 2212 was at Telford
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 03, 2018, 07:21:36 PM
2210? I thought that was at Luton and 2212 was at Telford
Ah yes - thanks for pointing that out; got the numbers confused!
Easily done lol
I've been told that 2737 is back at Telford, I'm not sure if it's transferred or just on loan though.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 13, 2018, 09:40:24 AM
I've been told that 2737 is back at Telford, I'm not sure if it's transferred or just on loan though.
I saw this the other day on the 13/19 circuit. To my knowledge it's never previously been at Telford as an allocation at any point.
Quote from: PointerDart on September 13, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
I saw this the other day on the 13/19 circuit. To my knowledge it's never previously been at Telford as an allocation at any point.
You might be right, I was sure I'd seen it at Telford previously but the main site says otherwise, so I must be mistaken.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 13, 2018, 12:00:36 PM
You might be right, I was sure I'd seen it at Telford previously but the main site says otherwise, so I must be mistaken.
I had to think for a minute or two if I'm honest; I was getting confused with former 2738 thinking that was 2737 for some reason
2738/9 X781/783 NWX were the pair of ex Selwyns Cadets at Telford for some years.
The out of sync fleetnumber is due to 2737 been ordered by Arriva Cymru for the joint 2/2A/2B/2C operation between Oswestry and Wrexham between Midlands, Oswestry garage and Cymru, Wrexham garage. Cymru ordered four and only needed three for the PVR share so it was moved brand new to Oswestry and numbered 2737 (Oswestry had Darts 2378/9 later new for their share). 2740-2 operated with Cymru as 2486-8 and moved a few years later over to Midlands when Oswestry took over all the 2/2A/2B/2C services.
Versa 2997 YJ57 EKE is now operating out of Shrewsbury and was on the 436 on Monday. I understand it has been there a while as the 19 (former 96) now produces a nice bit of variety.
Quote from: Depotosw on September 25, 2018, 08:31:09 PM
Versa 2997 YJ57 EKE is now operating out of Shrewsbury and was on the 436 on Monday. I understand it has been there a while as the 19 (former 96) now produces a nice bit of variety.
Yeah 13/19s operate Streetlites/Enviros/Cadets/Darts mostly.
The 19 has been dropping the odd Commander too! Today I saw Cadet 2748
Quote from: Depotosw on September 26, 2018, 09:17:31 PM
The 19 has been dropping the odd Commander too! Today I saw Cadet 2748
2748 hasn't been sounding too healthy recently; I reckon it'll be gone before Christmas. Interesting that Commanders have been on there as well - the 13 and 19 is tight enough with a StreetLite so I daren't think how it is with a Commander.
Commanders have appeared a few times since it changed to the 19, a odd Pulsar here and there too inc a rare sight of 3779 last month. Been a notable amount of Streetlites of late with the usual E200's appearing. All in all very interest compare to when 2997 ruled the 96.
Example of a Commander working saw 3701 on the 19 today, very tempted to jump on it for Telford had I not been needing to get back to work ;D
2704 has apparently moved to Telford, recently operating the 13s and 19s
Here is 2704 on the 19 on 4th October, managed a snatch shot on my break: https://www.flickr.com/photos/35721472@N08/45103683001
Saw 3751 today looking really smart as well
https://flic.kr/p/2bEjtcQ
DAF decker 4803 on the 5 this afternoon, just seen it at Stafford station heading for Telford. First time I have ever seen one of the deckers in Stafford.
Both repainted 3751/52 both in the 5 today
Streetlite in Stafford with blinds alternating '5 Telford' and 'Lest we Forget' which I thought was a very nice touch.
3750 made a welcome sight on the 12:45 19 Shrewsbury to Telford today.
B7RLE 3929 KE07 EVY from Tamworth has appeared at Telford on was noted on 1 Sutton Hill runs and later on the Staff Shuttle. I assume a repaint cover loan?
3793 FL63 DYB making a very welcome appearance on the 19 into Shrewsbury today 👍
2505 made an appearance in Telford and Bridgnorth today, running on the 8s. My first time being on an SR - wasn't great :/
ex Derby Solo SR, 2521 YJ09 MME on the 19 Telford - Lightmoor - Shrewsbury today.
YJ12 PLD on the 9 in Wolverhampton has 436 on the rear blind. Front and side are displaying 9 Bridgnorth just fine.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 22, 2019, 05:40:37 PM
YJ12 PLD on the 9 in Wolverhampton has 436 on the rear blind. Front and side are displaying 9 Bridgnorth just fine.
The 9 is run by Shrewsbury, the bus interworks with the 436 and runs through to Shrewsbury
@StourValley98 I don't think Telford run into Wolverhampton anymore.
The optare versa are also the usual allocation.
Quote from: 2206 on March 22, 2019, 05:47:28 PM
The 9 is run by Shrewsbury, the bus interworks with the 436 and runs through to Shrewsbury @StourValley98
I don't think Telford run into Wolverhampton anymore.
The optare versa are also the usual allocation.
Ah gotcha, I must've remembered it wrong. I know that Versas are usual on there, I was just pointing out the wrong number on the back.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 22, 2019, 06:49:35 PM
Ah gotcha, I must've remembered it wrong. I know that Versas are usual on there, I was just pointing out the wrong number on the back.
I travelled on 3698 YJ12 PLO on the 07:40, 436 out of Shrewsbury and noted 9 was on the rear and 436 on the front lol. The 9 has been operated by Shrewsbury Garage since last summer.
Noted 2546 operating on the Tesco Shuttle today (22/03) - a transfer from Oswestry perhaps?
Quote from: PointerDart on March 22, 2019, 09:00:04 PM
Noted 2546 operating on the Tesco Shuttle today (22/03) - a transfer from Oswestry perhaps?
2546 departed Oswestry recently, to act as a repaint cover bus in the place of 2744 which is now withdrawn with engine issues and stored at Oswestry.
Saw a very fresh looking 3338 heading towards Lichfield earlier.
Which is the fastest route between Bridgnorth & Telford?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 06, 2019, 12:50:43 PM
Which is the fastest route between Bridgnorth & Telford?
Service 113 is the quickest but only operates a few journeys a day.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on May 06, 2019, 01:44:46 PM
Service 113 is the quickest but only operates a few journeys a day.
The 113 takes 39 minutes from Bridgnorth to Telford but AFAIK it's only one trip each way two or three days a week.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 06, 2019, 12:50:43 PM
Which is the fastest route between Bridgnorth & Telford?
8 (Telford - Ironbridge - Bridgnorth) - takes approximately 1h 5m and is every 2 hours Monday to Saturday: http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=twm&line=07008&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA02_73348659&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=AMN
113 (Telford - Bridgnorth) - 1 journey there/back Monday to Saturday, timings dependent on day of the week. Journey time - 40 mins.
114 (Telford - Bridgnorth) - few journeys Monday to Friday, one on Saturday. Timings dependent on day. Journey time - 1h 5m - http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=twm&line=07008&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA02_73348659&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=AMN
Is the wellington to Telford corridor well used?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on June 16, 2019, 11:46:31 AM
Is the wellington to Telford corridor well used?
Yes it is. The 4 is always busy along that corridor between Wellington and Telford.
Solo SR, 2520 YJ09 MMA is now operating here, noted on the 19 Telford to Shrewsbury today. A recent move as not seen this one before?
3311 and 3323 both working the 5/6 today
Quote from: Depotosw on June 26, 2019, 07:06:04 PM
Solo SR, 2520 YJ09 MMA is now operating here, noted on the 19 Telford to Shrewsbury today. A recent move as not seen this one before?
TF have had some solo SR's for a while now. One can normally be found working the 14/14A but I have also seen them on the 7, 113/4 as well as the 19.
3332 is a recent repaint noted last evening.
Quote from: tphi12000 on July 26, 2019, 09:02:13 AM
3332 is a recent repaint noted last evening.
Seen 3781 and 3782 in Stafford this week also in the new livery repainted out of 5 branding.
Noted mini Enviro 2150 working the 5/6 in Stafford yesterday afternoon. I've never seen such a small vehicle working this service before.
Quote from: Hector on July 27, 2019, 12:04:50 AM
Noted mini Enviro 2150 working the 5/6 in Stafford yesterday afternoon. I've never seen such a small vehicle working this service before.
Usually pulsars with the occasional centro or streetlite. The E200 would have struggled to cope with loadings especially between Newport & Telford.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on July 27, 2019, 07:17:48 AM
Usually pulsars with the occasional centro or streetlite. The E200 would have struggled to cope with loadings especially between Newport & Telford.
I believe it replaced a broken down pulsar
2546 parked up and abandoned in a layby on the A4169 just outside Shifnal. Presumably broken down?
Telford pulsar 3748 YJ59BVM involved in accident in madeley Telford been rear ended and front damage to and only just been repainted as well
Are there any plans to introduce a new service or reroute existing services to some of the new Shifnal estates? I've noticed some bus stops on one of the estates.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on August 21, 2019, 04:24:53 PM
Are there any plans to introduce a new service or reroute existing services to some of the new Shifnal estates? I've noticed some bus stops on one of the estates.
Maybe Banga might consider diverting their 891 through these new estates
Quote from: BusMan Greg on August 21, 2019, 06:50:47 PM
Maybe Banga might consider diverting their 891 through these new estates
The stop had the Arriva logo on it so I wouldn't have thought so.
what ever happened to the old 584 route between Wolves and Bobbington?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on August 27, 2019, 01:59:19 PM
what ever happened to the old 584 route between Wolves and Bobbington?
I think Wednesfield operated this route using Mercedes Vario's. I would imagine that it was withdrawn due to low usage.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on August 27, 2019, 02:49:07 PM
I think Wednesfield operated this route using Mercedes Vario's. I would imagine that it was withdrawn due to low usage.
It got withdrawn in the tender changes which WPH won the 586/587 in the late 2000s I think.
The 586/7 ended up at Bridgnorth Arriva and got at one stage allocated Merc 1905.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on August 27, 2019, 02:49:07 PM
I think Wednesfield operated this route using Mercedes Vario's. I would imagine that it was withdrawn due to low usage.
Wednesfield never operated it. It was Bridgnorth outstation/Telford.
2745 (LF02PLX) has been in Telford today operating the 7s - don't know if this just a loan or a transfer
Quote from: PointerDart on August 29, 2019, 10:51:58 PM
2745 (LF02PLX) has been in Telford today operating the 7s - don't know if this just a loan or a transfer
possibly in for 3748 as cover for time being as i believe it is going to wrote off with accident damage maybe wrong though
Quote from: Rich-82 on September 03, 2019, 06:38:40 PM
possibly in for 3748 as cover for time being as i believe it is going to wrote off with accident damage maybe wrong though
Might just be getting repaired for the time being
Meanwhile 2748 has been moved over to Cannock
Quote from: PointerDart on September 04, 2019, 01:01:32 AM
Might just be getting repaired for the time being
Meanwhile 2748 has been moved over to Cannock
2748 seems to float between Telford and Cannock.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on September 04, 2019, 08:48:16 AM
2748 seems to float between Telford and Cannock.
I reckon its nearing end-of-life so probably finishing its time in service there
3792 is another recent repaint noted on the 5 in telford today p
Quote from: Rich-82 on September 03, 2019, 06:38:40 PM
possibly in for 3748 as cover for time being as i believe it is going to wrote off with accident damage maybe wrong though
I'm sure I saw 3748 on the 5 earlier in the week.....
Quote from: tphi12000 on September 12, 2019, 10:28:40 PM
3792 is another recent repaint noted on the 5 in telford today p
3793 also repainted. Just leaving 3779 which I believe has already been dispatched to MRC
PD0000478/384 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Brookside Sheards Lane, Station Road to William Brookes School, Much Wenlock
Service number: 894 (895, 896)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Sep 2019
PD0000478/426 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Much Wenlock via Madeley, Ironbridge, Broseley
Service number: 18 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Sep 2019
PD0000478/468 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford to Bridgnorth via Ironbridge, Broseley
Service number: 8 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Sep 2019
Quote from: Cedric on September 25, 2019, 03:28:56 PM
PD0000478/384 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Brookside Sheards Lane, Station Road to William Brookes School, Much Wenlock
Service number: 894 (895, 896)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Sep 2019
PD0000478/426 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Much Wenlock via Madeley, Ironbridge, Broseley
Service number: 18 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Sep 2019
PD0000478/468 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford to Bridgnorth via Ironbridge, Broseley
Service number: 8 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Sep 2019
Will be for the duration of Severn Trent works in Ironbridge. Free shuttle buses between Madeley and Ironbridge in the meantime
Registrations lodged for changes on the 30th November:
PD0000478/419 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Telford Bus Station via Oakengates, Donnington, Newport, Gnosall
Service number: 5 (5A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Nov 2019
PD0000478/420 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Wellington, Lawley, Overdale via Muxton, Donnington
Service number: 6 (7, 7A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Nov 2019
PD0000478/468 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford to Bridgnorth via Ironbridge, Broseley
Service number: 8 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Nov 2019
PD0000478/423 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Telford Bus Station to Oakengates via Priorslee, Ketley Bank
Service number: 14 (14A, )
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Nov 2019
What routes do the cadets do in Telford?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 28, 2019, 09:46:49 AM
What routes do the cadets do in Telford?
They don't really have certain routes that they're allocated to but there's usually one on the 1/2.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on October 28, 2019, 10:52:23 AM
They don’t really have certain routes that they’re allocated to but there’s usually one on the 1/2.
The Cadets also do get into the mix on the 7.
2702 was on the 19 today, noted at the Shrewsbury end of the route.
Quote from: Depotosw on October 29, 2019, 10:06:37 PM
The Cadets also do get into the mix on the 7.
2702 was on the 19 today, noted at the Shrewsbury end of the route.
Yes, they do sometimes make appearances on the 7 & 19.
2768 (CX56 CDZ) has suffered a fire. Damage looked severe - fairly sure a write-off.
Quote from: PointerDart on March 06, 2020, 02:38:29 PM
2768 (CX56 CDZ) has suffered a fire. Damage looked severe - fairly sure a write-off.
I was only on the bus an hour before it happened I know the driver as well and this bus went well and never seemed to have any issues
Quote from: Rich-82 on March 07, 2020, 04:37:16 AM
I was only on the bus an hour before it happened I know the driver as well and this bus went well and never seemed to have any issues
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/telford/dawley/2020/03/06/bus-destroyed-by-fire-on-telford-road/ (https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/telford/dawley/2020/03/06/bus-destroyed-by-fire-on-telford-road/)
I was very surprised myself as it must've happened shortly after it passed me the other direction at Brookside. Glad all were safe and no injuries
Just seen Oswestry allocated Pulsar 2, 3791 FL63 DXZ is currently on the 4 in Telford.
Has Shrewsbury loaned some of there Versas as I have seen 2981 and 2976 on services in Telford today?
Quote from: Rich-82 on June 15, 2020, 07:03:46 PM
Has Shrewsbury loaned some of there Versas as I have seen 2981 and 2976 on services in Telford today?
Yes, will have been.
3752 on the X4 earlier with no blinds, piece of paper in the window.
Quote from: BN on June 27, 2020, 03:01:07 PM
3752 on the X4 earlier with no blinds, piece of paper in the window.
TF are operating the X4 instead of Shrewsbury.
Quote from: Pat on June 27, 2020, 04:34:59 PM
TF are operating the X4 instead of Shrewsbury.
Hence why it's in the Telford thread.
Quote from: BN on June 27, 2020, 09:18:38 PM
Hence why it's in the Telford thread.
Yes, but Telford also do X4 shorts to Wellington so wasn't sure if you were referring to those.
Quote from: Pat on June 27, 2020, 10:21:23 PM
Yes, but Telford also do X4 shorts to Wellington so wasn't sure if you were referring to those.
Either way the bus was defective.
3624 parked up at the bus station around 1430 today.
Quote from: Pat on August 17, 2020, 02:51:22 PM
3624 parked up at the bus station around 1430 today.
it's being used as a drivers rest room in addition to the drivers room in the bus station
Quote from: Rich-82 on August 17, 2020, 08:00:56 PM
it's being used as a drivers rest room in addition to the drivers room in the bus station
Its mad when you think of dome of the sheds still in service like 3702-4 & 2746
3623 was out and about in Telford this morning, out of service but did have a yellow schools sticker in front window .
3616 is another out this morning , noted 'out of service' in Gnosall.
Quote from: tphi12000 on September 04, 2020, 09:04:10 AM
3616 is another out this morning , noted 'out of service' in Gnosall.
Could either have been a Cannock vehicle operating dead to pick up a 5, or a Telford vehicle running dead to pick up the 7A at 0750 to Wellington at Newport.
Quote from: Pat on September 04, 2020, 10:13:27 AM
Could either have been a Cannock vehicle operating dead to pick up a 5, or a Telford vehicle running dead to pick up the 7A at 0750 to Wellington at Newport.
direction of travel suggests a Telford vehicle but the significance is this vehicle was parked out of use at Cannock since coming from Milton Keynes.
White coach seen on Staff Shuttle this afternoon. Think it was either a Yutong or King Long
Quote from: Pat on September 08, 2020, 04:56:33 PM
White coach seen on Staff Shuttle this afternoon. Think it was either a Yutong or King Long
See fleet changes on main site for details
Quote from: Tony on September 08, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
See fleet changes on main site for details
Yes noted 7105 heading back to the depot this evening.
Mercedes City45 noted in Telford, working the staff shuttle.
6009 has appeared at Telford this week, working Bridgnorth services.
6005 is still in Telford this week currently working the 16 to Roden.
Out of all the ex Cannock Vehicles that i`ve seen and travelled on they are good solid buses with hardly any rattles given that over 10 yrs old and the insides still look really tidy inside given so many complaints about them
Quote from: Rich-82 on February 25, 2021, 02:04:56 PM
6005 is still in Telford this week currently working the 16 to Roden.
Out of all the ex Cannock Vehicles that i`ve seen and travelled on they are good solid buses with hardly any rattles given that over 10 yrs old and the insides still look really tidy inside given so many complaints about them
I've been on the Commanders on the 2 a couple of times, and couldn't see what the big issue with them was. Tidy vehicles inside, with no "threadbare" seats.
Quote from: Pat on February 25, 2021, 03:18:36 PM
I've been on the Commanders on the 2 a couple of times, and couldn't see what the big issue with them was. Tidy vehicles inside, with no "threadbare" seats.
Not much rattles either on the centros that came from Watford via Cannock and and 3742 pulsar which in effect has come home to Telford is in very good condition as well
Quote from: Rich-82 on February 25, 2021, 07:32:38 PM
Not much rattles either on the centros that came from Watford via Cannock and and 3742 pulsar which in effect has come home to Telford is in very good condition as well
Sampled them all at Cannock over time, 3740-2 were always very tidy vehicles, inside and out. The Centros, 3841/4/6 I actually sampled down Hemel Hempstead and Watford and again a good few times when at Cannock, if anything they were improved over time at Cannock, particularly the repainted one.
Quote from: Depotosw on February 25, 2021, 08:16:24 PM
Sampled them all at Cannock over time, 3740-2 were always very tidy vehicles, inside and out. The Centros, 3841/4/6 I actually sampled down Hemel Hempstead and Watford and again a good few times when at Cannock, if anything they were improved over time at Cannock, particularly the repainted one.
I personally don`t see what the problem was every depot always have a few problematic that cause issues
Quote from: Depotosw on February 25, 2021, 08:16:24 PM
Sampled them all at Cannock over time, 3740-2 were always very tidy vehicles, inside and out. The Centros, 3841/4/6 I actually sampled down Hemel Hempstead and Watford and again a good few times when at Cannock, if anything they were improved over time at Cannock, particularly the repainted one.
They were put into service in a shocking state upon arrival at Cannock. 3740/41 were retrimmed inside upon repaint. Most of Cannocks decent buses were always shipped out.3701-4 were disgusting inside before retrim as were some of the Solos and the BVT/BVU plate Darts were something else. Weirdly the one still in vintage livery got a retrim but the repainted one didnt and still hasnt AFAIK
Quote from: Bob on March 06, 2021, 04:46:29 AM
They were put into service in a shocking state upon arrival at Cannock. 3740/41 were retrimmed inside upon repaint. Most of Cannocks decent buses were always shipped out.3701-4 were disgusting inside before retrim as were some of the Solos and the BVT/BVU plate Darts were something else. Weirdly the one still in vintage livery got a retrim but the repainted one didnt and still hasnt AFAIK
3701 was never "disgusting." It was a perfectly decent vehicle.
2146 (previously 11 branded) now painted into the new livery.
As much as I dislike the new Arriva livery, I must admit it does make the E200s look rather smart.
Quote from: Pat on March 06, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
2146 (previously 11 branded) now painted into the new livery.
As much as I dislike the new Arriva livery, I must admit it does make the E200s look rather smart.
Just seen a pic - looks stunning and they've given it a re-trim by the looks of things. New livery really does suit Enviros
Quote from: Pat on March 06, 2021, 10:47:08 AM
3701 was never "disgusting." It was a perfectly decent vehicle.
The interior??? And wasnt that the one that got scrapped?
Quote from: Pat on March 06, 2021, 10:47:08 AM
3701 was never "disgusting." It was a perfectly decent vehicle.
Always found 3701-4 to be nice vehicles to travel on at both Telford an Cannock, even did a few of them on the Park & Ride in Leicester back in the day.
Quote from: Depotosw on March 07, 2021, 05:10:09 PM
Always found 3701-4 to be nice vehicles to travel on at both Telford an Cannock, even did a few of them on the Park & Ride in Leicester back in the day.
Yes, strange how a vehicle can go from being perfectly decent to disgusting when transferred to Cannock......
Quote from: Pat on March 06, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
2146 (previously 11 branded) now painted into the new livery.
As much as I dislike the new Arriva livery, I must admit it does make the E200s look rather smart.
2146 does look really smart now especially as it had starte to look very untidy and scruffy.
Optare Versa 2944 YJ61CFL & 2980 YJ09MKX are on Loan from Shrewsbury to cover the Additional School Services
Quote from: Rich-82 on March 08, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
Optare Versa 2944 YJ61CFL & 2980 YJ09MKX are on Loan from Shrewsbury to cover the Additional School Services
Are the Scanias still there? Thought they were brought in to cover schools.
Quote from: Pat on March 08, 2021, 04:53:25 PM
Are the Scanias still there? Thought they were brought in to cover schools.
They are withdrawn now but i think they are still in telford awitaing there fate
Quote from: Pat on March 07, 2021, 06:25:06 PM
Yes, strange how a vehicle can go from being perfectly decent to disgusting when transferred to Cannock......
It was withdrawn before it ended up at cannock...
It was parked there to be used for spares on the rest of the commanders
Interesting change at the end of August. Arriva has cancelled the 164 from Market Drayton to Hanley.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/581561/
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 23, 2021, 03:30:20 AM
Interesting change at the end of August. Arriva has cancelled the 164 from Market Drayton to Hanley.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/581561/
It will be the 64 from Shrewsbury all the way to Hanley rather than changing to a 164
Quote from: WilliamLeylandNational on July 23, 2021, 02:47:24 PM
It will be the 64 from Shrewsbury all the way to Hanley rather than changing to a 164
I thought that was the reason why the 64 got split in the first place?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 23, 2021, 03:18:04 PM
I thought that was the reason why the 64 got split in the first place?
If I'm understanding you correctly, the reason it is split is to do with regulations on route length, I.e passengers must be able to get off within 15 miles of where they got on 'as the crow flies'. Still, I'm not sure why Arriva had different numbers for each section of the route.
Quote from: Pat on July 23, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
If I'm understanding you correctly, the reason it is split is to do with regulations on route length, I.e passengers must be able to get off within 15 miles of where they got on 'as the crow flies'. Still, I'm not sure why Arriva had different numbers for each section of the route.
I think it was to do with EU and UK driving hours and their interpretation. That's why the X18 in Coventry is a split registration
Quote from: Pat on July 23, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
If I'm understanding you correctly, the reason it is split is to do with regulations on route length, I.e passengers must be able to get off within 15 miles of where they got on 'as the crow flies'. Still, I'm not sure why Arriva had different numbers for each section of the route.
IT's not the 15 mile rule. It's the overall route length rule which states that to use domestic hours, the route length must not exceed 50km (31 miles). Anything longer must run on EU rules (or use the loophole of splitting the registration.
Quote from: WilliamLeylandNational on July 23, 2021, 02:47:24 PM
It will be the 64 from Shrewsbury all the way to Hanley rather than changing to a 164
If that was the case, why not just change the route number on the registration?
Sorry, I have just realised, the 164/64 is Shrewsbury, not Telford. Mods, please feel free to move the posts.
2402 2403 2503 are now at Telford
The 5A is being extended to Stafford along with new routes 5E and 6
E200 2150 now transferred to Arriva Merseyside as 2167, several others to follow in exchange for Solo SR's, first to Midlands being MX12KXH (Merseyside's 717).
HTH
Quote from: gka472l on November 22, 2022, 01:42:49 AME200 2150 now transferred to Arriva Merseyside as 2167, several others to follow in exchange for Solo SR's, first to Midlands being MX12KXH (Merseyside's 717).
HTH
why the swap is it to do with the emissions rule something else
Quote from: Solo1 on November 22, 2022, 09:07:13 AMwhy the swap is it to do with the emissions rule something else
These Solos are longer ones so maybe they need shorter buses, is that one of the Solos on Speke contracts?
Quote from: Cheese on November 24, 2022, 08:20:31 PMThese Solos are longer ones so maybe they need shorter buses, is that one of the Solos on Speke contracts?
Yes, the 3/3A/166/188 routes recently won on tender (although the 166/188 seem to be mostly Pulsars). As it happens, I caught up with 2167 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dmc1947/52521201159
HTH
The 19 between Shrewsbury and Coalbrookdale is being withdrawn and replaced by Select Buses 96 and 96A. The 19 between Lightmoor and Telford will still be operated by Arriva
However the 96/96A will continue to Telford from Coalbrookdale.
I've received information tonight that apparently from September the following routes will no longer be operated by Arriva I don't know how good this information is but this is what I have been told;
• 297 (Kidderminster - Bridgnorth) will be operated by Diamond
• 436 (Shrewsbury - Bridgnorth) will be operated by Select Bus Service
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 16, 2023, 10:39:29 PMI've received information tonight that apparently from September the following routes will no longer be operated by Arriva I don't know how good this information is but this is what I have been told;
• 297 (Kidderminster - Bridgnorth) will be operated by Diamond
• 436 (Shrewsbury - Bridgnorth) will be operated by Select Bus Service
The 297 would make sense since Diamond already operate the 125 service which runs on the opposite side of the River Severn I believe. The services could be interworked in Bridgnorth.
436 would mean quite a bit of dead mileage although since Chaserider run in Telford with even more dead mileage, may be not a problem.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on July 17, 2023, 08:30:49 PMThe 297 would make sense since Diamond already operate the 125 service which runs on the opposite side of the River Severn I believe. The services could be interworked in Bridgnorth.
436 would mean quite a bit of dead mileage although since Chaserider run in Telford with even more dead mileage, may be not a problem.
The 125 uses long B7RLE normally. 30825 being a regular. Not sure those can get round the Arley area. 297 is probably more suited to a E200/midibus like the ones on the 8 or a Mellor Strata.
So they might not interwork.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on July 17, 2023, 08:30:49 PMThe 297 would make sense since Diamond already operate the 125 service which runs on the opposite side of the River Severn I believe. The services could be interworked in Bridgnorth.
436 would mean quite a bit of dead mileage although since Chaserider run in Telford with even more dead mileage, may be not a problem.
Select are taking over the 436 not Chaserider
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 18, 2023, 09:33:48 AMSelect are taking over the 436 not Chaserider
I know but I was just commenting on the dead mileage.
Select run a service between Shrewsbury and Telford, the 96, so they're already sending a bus in that direction.
Solo 2488 was used for a couple of days after arrival here and hasn't been out since now almost a month.
And B9TL 4115 seems to be here from Leicester.
Quote from: spw24 on May 05, 2024, 01:49:25 PMSolo 2488 was used for a couple of days after arrival here and hasn't been out since now almost a month.
And B9TL 4115 seems to be here from Leicester.
2488 currently having some work done on it