The Kings Ferry will be expanding outside of its traditional Kent operating area with the award of a contract from North Somerset council to provide two new commuter coach services in Bristol & South Gloucestershire from the Autumn requiring 4 coaches
http://www.nationalexpressgroup.com/media/allnews.aspx?newsyear=2013&newsitem=895
The coaches for this are ::-
450 FH06EBN exNX C069
451 BF63ZSW
452 BF63ZSX
453 BF63ZSY
454 BF63ZSZ
A quote from oxford Chiltern bus page:
"We are not undertaking much private hire work out of this depot at the moment, although we are covering a number of NatEx duplicate services on the 040, 509 and 444 at weekends. Plans are that we will begin taking on more private hire and other work in the new year once the commuter service is fully established."
so could this see nx set up a depot in avonmouth? stepping on rotala's toes?? ;)
Quote from: dannygill on December 14, 2013, 07:06:56 PM
A quote from oxford Chiltern bus page:
"We are not undertaking much private hire work out of this depot at the moment, although we are covering a number of NatEx duplicate services on the 040, 509 and 444 at weekends. Plans are that we will begin taking on more private hire and other work in the new year once the commuter service is fully established."
so could this see nx set up a depot in avonmouth? stepping on rotala's toes?? ;)
They already have a depot in Avonmouth located at the Volvo dealership. Don't see any reason why they couldn't expand from their existing base. When you say NX setup a depot, do you mean bues or NX coach routes?
Bristol City Council are actively looking to attract new competition, but can't see NX being interested in setting a bus operation up from scratch
it seems very much a coach operation. but the 040's are a big earner for the company and it seems a good sound logical expansion
Quote from: dannygill on December 18, 2013, 10:55:45 PM
it seems very much a coach operation. but the 040's are a big earner for the company and it seems a good sound logical expansion
Kings Ferry could take over all the NX work currently subcontracted out to South Gloucestershire Bus & Coach, but I doubt they will as NX don't really seem interested in operating in-house . NX Ops couldn't have setup a B'ham depot when Veolia wanted out, but instead they chose to sub-contract out all the work to Whittle's / DeCourcey & Rotala instead. Same when NX Ops closed Crawley depot, much of the work went to sub-contractors instead
The Kings Ferry are now advertising private coach hire within Somerset
http://www.thekingsferry.co.uk/about-us/coach-hire-somerset
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway_messenger/news/commuters-turn-to-coach-11040/
Latest Fleet addition (one of a pair to replace 2 x Scania/Berkof Double Deck coaches):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/15489357500/in/photostream/
Latest VIP delivered in August
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/14672895199/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/14856450121/
602 YJ64AVL (last of the pair to arrive)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/15554935970/
New coaches due:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/16357741734/
one of my mates on flickr photographed
YT12RLV VIP2 in this livery (Conservative Party 2015 Election)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dd67773/16806176570/
(did let me use link for the photo)
The Kings Ferry have recently had some new additions to the fleet:
421 YM15DKJ
YM15DKK
YM15DK?
Irizar Integral I6
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/19320532362/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42933189@N03/19260693979/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42933189@N03/19607909110/in/dateposted/
603 YJ15EPA - Van Hool Altano
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42933189@N03/18794442488/in/dateposted/
709 YJ15EPC - Van Hool Astromega
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/19011445848
The Kings Ferry new VIP livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/17987113443/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/18420059578/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/18580143426/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/18419936098/in/dateposted/
2 further longer Irizar I6's to follow the above 3.
3 more new coaches to join The Kings Ferry fleet in the shape of Mercedes-Benz Tourismo's:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/19579306623/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/20192102252/in/dateposted/
Kings Ferry have another two new coaches in the form of tri-axle Irizar I6 integrals & are branching out in to Eurolines work:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/21184148232/in/dateposted/
Do Kings Ferry still own YP52CUU a Scania N94/Castrosua? If so where can I find it?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 12, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
Do Kings Ferry still own YP52CUU a Scania N94/Castrosua? If so where can I find it?
Last time I saw that it was in Cambridge doing shuttles to the immigrant detention centre. I remember bashing that when Ludlows had it on loan, my mate got a pic of it at Merry Hill!
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 12, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
Do Kings Ferry still own YP52CUU a Scania N94/Castrosua? If so where can I find it?
As far as I know it is still owned, it was for sale & repainted allover white but I don't think it has found a buyer
Ok thanks for the info
@Winston @Cheese :)
The Kings Ferry have taken delviery of two more new coaches for Eurolines work in the shape of VDL Synergy's E03 WJ65EKU & E04 WJ65EKV:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42933189@N03/24391954632/
Courtesy Of Yahoo UK Southwest Bus Group:
It appears that Kings Ferry have finally sold the following:
Today on Yeovil town services 10/12 is the unique Scania N94UB/Castrosua Carsa YP52 CUU.
Currently in all over white. This former Scania demonstrator was previously with Kings Ferry.
Looks like these may mean the end of the North Bristol Commuter services:
PH1123082/1 - THE KINGS FERRY LTD, THE TRAVEL CENTRE, EASTCOURT LANE, GILLINGHAM, ME8 6HN
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Weston Super Mare, Locking Road and MOD Abbeywood Bristol given service number C1/C0/C2/C3 effective from 24-Apr-2016.
PH1123082/2 - THE KINGS FERRY LTD, THE TRAVEL CENTRE, EASTCOURT LANE, GILLINGHAM, ME8 6HN
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Portishead, West Hill The Triangle and MOD Abbeywood Bristol given service number C5/C6/C7 effective from 24-Apr-2016.
TKF have taken delivery of another 4 x Mercedes Turismos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/27776772352/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/27472564860/in/photostream/
TKF have taken delivery of a further 3 x Van Hool VIP coaches:
WJ16OHV / OHW Van Hool TX21 Altano
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138063305@N03/28982316623/
WJ16OHU Van Hool TX17 Astron
https://www.flickr.com/photos/141863916@N07/28982623154/
10 more Mercedes Turisomos are on order for early 2017.
VDL Synergy Double Deck coaches have been removed from Eurolines work and are now allover white with Kings Ferry fleet names, they have also been re-numbered to 710 WJ65EKU & 711 WJ65EKV.
Merc Tursiomo's 424 & 425 have been repainted white & gained Eurolines decals instead
According to Coach and Bus Week, Clarkes of London have been sold to...
National Express
https://cbwmagazine.com/nx-buys-clarkes-of-london/
That's a good purchase and compliments The Kings Ferry, Clarkes has a good name & reputation for quality.
Nice to see NX buy a UK based business.
Interesting.....very interesting. What it does is that this brings in a base in Catford,which could help with vehicles that need servicing and so on.
Quote from: markcf83 on December 16, 2016, 04:37:57 PM
Interesting.....very interesting. What it does is that this brings in a base in Catford,which could help with vehicles that need servicing and so on.
Clarkes base on Google Earth seems quite similar to TKF's base at Gillingham, the Catford base appears to be a bit too far from Canary Wharf (for parking of TFK coaches during the daytime) & Central London etc. I suspect they will remain as seperate entities under NX and just work together.
Has anyone come across a fleetlist for Clarkes of London anywhere?
This isn't an official list, just what I currently have recorded with them
BF 58 UEV Ka S416GT-HD
BF 61 HCH MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCJ MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCK MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCL MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCN MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCO MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCP MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCX MB Tourismo
BF 61 HCY MB Tourismo
BJ 15 UVK MB Tourismo
BJ 15 UVL MB Tourismo
BJ 15 UVM MB Tourismo
BJ 15 UVN MB Tourismo
BJ 15 UVO MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGA MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGB MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGC MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGD MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGE MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGF MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGG MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGH MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGJ MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGK MB Tourismo
BN 11 UGL Ka S416GT-HD
BV 10 ZKA MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKB MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKC MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKD MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKE MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKF MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKG MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKH MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKJ MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKK MB Tourismo
BV 10 ZKM Ka S415GT-HD
ES 15 EHS Ir i4
MY 12 OPR Sca i6
PE 13 GMU MB O816D
PE 13 GMV MB O816D
RO 15 VGX MB 516CDI
RV 15 ZJO MB 516CDI
SV 56 BWB Vo B12B
SV 56 BWC Vo B12B
YM 15 DKF Ir i6
YN 16 NZC Ir i6
YN 16 NZD Ir i6
YN 16 NZE Ir i6
YN 16 NZF Ir i6
YN 16 NZG Ir i6
YN 16 NZH Ir i6
YR 16 UCS Ir i8
YT 65 BYJ Ir i6
YT 65 BYK Ir i6
YT 65 BYL Ir i6
YT 65 BYM Ir i6
YT 65 BYN Ir i6
Cheers for that Boss!
Redwing would make another useful acquisition target to complement the growing NX commuter / private hire businesses.
I have 6 photographs of Clarkes vehicles in my files, they are now all on the main site, along with the above list at
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Clarkes/Clarkes.html
I notice Clarkes have a base on an Industrial Estate in Rochester for their commuter coaches. It's only 9.5 miles from TKF's Gillingham base (they are on opposite of the River Medway), I can see that being rationalised in the future, with the Clarkes Commuter coaches moving in to Gillingham either as Clarkes or being re-branded under TKF.
Fleetlist Updates:
SV56BWB:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45726467@N02/30556398602
SV56BWC:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45726467@N02/30373509150
The above 2 coaches are no longer with Clarkes
Setra BF58UEV & the 10 x 10 Plate Tourismo's BV10ZKA - ZKK are all currently for sale. I assume that their replacements were ordered prior to the NX takeover.
http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/virtual-magazine/16th-december-2016-issue-1409/
First 3 of the next batch of 10 x Mercedes Tourismos for TKF:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138063305@N03/31817907050
Does anyone know the fleetnumbers & seating configurations for the following Kings Ferry VIP coaches?
WJ16OHV Van Hool Altano
WJ16OHWVan Hool Altano
WJ16OHU Van Hool Astron
BT66UAE (439) was present at the blues yesterday for Fulham's visit.
Quote from: midlandred2003 on February 05, 2017, 10:42:49 AM
BT66UAE (439) was present at the blues yesterday for Fulham's visit.
One of 10 recently delivered:
Others identified so far are:
BT66UAB (436?)
BT66UAD (438)
BT66UAF (440)
Bt66UAH (442)
A number of the ex Clarke's 10 x 10 plate Merc Turismo's have been sold to Red Rose Travel through to be 5 or 6 in total:
BV10ZKC:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/32450541343/in/photostream/
BV10ZKG:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/33109171492/in/photostream/
BV10ZKK:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/33223487296/
Is is understood that a batch of new Turisomo's may have replaced them? Not sure if 66 plate or 17 plate, does anyone have any id's?
The Kings Ferry will soon be operating 6 of their vehicles from Clarkes of London base:
PK0002990 SI
THE KINGS FERRY LTD
Director(s): JOHN STEWART FRASER, THOMAS FINDLAY STABLES,
EDWARD HENRY LUNT
THE TRAVEL CENTRE, EASTCOURT LANE, GILLINGHAM, ME8 6HN
New operating centre: CLARKES OF LONDON, KANGLEY BRIDGE ROAD,
LONDON, SE26 5AT
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 6 vehicle(s)
4 Clarkes i6's bombing down the Wolverhampton road, through Coseley this evening. Looking as mint as always.
1st new VIP coach under NX ownership:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pooler1868/36705619101
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pooler1868/36010755394
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pooler1868/36705618141
First 67 plate for an NX subsidiary, new VIP Irizar i8 Integral
919 YN67VCY
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209996363416624&set=pcb.1702051443146392&type=3&theater&ifg=1
Looks like Clarkes have some more Mercedes Tourismo's due with revised decals:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernsoutherner/36830030823/in/photostream/
New Irizar i6s due for Kings Ferry:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernsoutherner/37238039240/in/photostream/
Quote from: Winston on October 05, 2017, 12:41:50 PM
Looks like Clarkes have some more Mercedes Tourismo's due with revised decals:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernsoutherner/36830030823/in/photostream/
Looks as though BF67WJK pictured above, is one of 22 new 67 plate Tourismo's that NX owned Clarkes have recently taken delivery of, it looks as though all 10/61 & 11 plate Tourismo's have been replaced bar BN11UGL as a result.
That's pretty much 50% of the fleet that has been replaced in a year under NX ownership.
http://ukbuses.co.uk/fleet/kingsferry.pdf
Does anyone have an registrations for this new VIP Tri-axle Tourismo ?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155974115@N08/28696202418
Currently on VOSA, granted 5 vehicle increase at Kings Ferry's Dover Outstation, taking on more NX diagrams?
PK0002990 SI THE KINGS FERRY LIMITED Director(s): JOHN STEWART FRASER, THOMAS FINDLAY STABLES THE TRAVEL CENTRE, EASTCOURT LANE, GILLINGHAM, ME8 6HN Increase at existing operating centre: KINGS FERRY, OVENDENS, PIKE ROAD, DOVER, CT15 4ND New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 15 vehicle(s) New Undertaking Vehicles with eight passenger seats or less will not be operated under the licence without the prior written agreement of the traffic commissioner who may require you to agree to certain undertakings.. Attached to licence New Undertaking Limousines and novelty type vehicles are not to be operated under this operator's licence.. Attached to licence
Currently on VOSA granted 5 vehicle increase at Lower Sydenham depot:
PK0002350 SI E. CLARKE & SON (COACHES) LIMITED Director(s): Thomas Findlay Stables, John Stewart Fraser, Edward Henry Lunt, Steven John Reeve KANGLEY BRIDGE ROAD, LOWER SYDENHAM, LONDON, SE26 5AT Increase at existing operating centre: KANGLEY BRIDGE ROAD, LOWER SYDENHAM, LONDON, SE26 5AT New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 61 vehicle(s) New Undertaking Vehicles with eight passenger seats or less will not be operated under the licence without the prior written agreement of the traffic commissioner who may require you to agree to certain undertakings.. Attached to licence New Undertaking Limousines and novelty type vehicles are not to be operated under this operator's licence.. Attached to licence
Another new unregistered Irizar i8 VIP:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/95376697@N08/41595827255
I assume it will be MY12OPR's replacement, which is currently for sale
New Yutong YB18YJW:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/132627454@N05/42291955024
Kings Ferry are also using Irizar i4 hybrid demonstrator YN67VCZ with a wrap for smartenergyGB.org:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/64518788@N05/42365069324
Quote from: Winston on June 15, 2018, 04:05:44 PM
Another new unregistered Irizar i8 VIP:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/95376697@N08/41595827255
I assume it will be MY12OPR's replacement, which is currently for sale
I assume the above unregistered Irizar i8 is now this registered YN18ZNG:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/95376697@N08/28626028038
More new fleet investment, this time Tourismo M3's:
BU18YOR & BU18YOT:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thestrev/28391921427
BU18YOT:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thestrev/43260917561
New Mercedes Tourismo BU18YTR:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/routemaster2217/43429797231
Kings Ferry has repainted 426 YT65BYG is a special livery to celebrate the 50 year anniversary of The Kings Ferry
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58093376@N06/42637882730
Another new VIP Irizar i8 is YS18NSY:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154951482@N06/42499721090
I assume Kings Ferry are taking over operation of the remaining Sipson Road Heathrow bus work when that depot closes imminently, looks to be based at BM Coaches depot, Hounslow:
PK0002990 SI THE KINGS FERRY LIMITED Director(s): JOHN STEWART FRASER, THOMAS FINDLAY STABLES THE TRAVEL CENTRE, EASTCOURT LANE, GILLINGHAM, ME8 6HN New operating centre: LOWER PARK FARM, CHURCH ROAD, HOUNSLOW, TW5 9RY New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 28 vehicle(s)
Stewarts have some new 68 plate Citaros
Looks as though it's a new contract, Stewarts seem to have 4 (BF68ZFA/B/C & D) looking at DVLA
https://www.bathroadcentral.com/service/brc-shuttle-bus/
Kings Ferry have also taken delivery of another new batch of Tourismos M2 & M3's:
M3 Tri-axles:
519 BF68ZFH - https://www.flickr.com/photos/132627454@N05/46751304471
520 BF68ZFJ - https://www.flickr.com/photos/132627454@N05/31809644717
M2:
BF68ZFO - https://www.flickr.com/photos/132627454@N05/31809643407
The full batch appears to include BF68ZFE / ZFG / ZFK / ZFL / ZFM / ZFN
Also, late last year TKF received their first Futura 2 Double Decker:
YH68MWK - https://www.flickr.com/photos/132627454@N05/46751298991
According to Lots Stewarts have started a new service from Slough Station to an industrial estate in Slough.
https://buyingbusinesstravel.com/news/0429969-kings-ferry-group-continues-expansion-drive
Stewarts Coaches Reading depot has had a +9 increase in vehicle allowance at end of Feb:
PH1015848 SN STEWARTS COACHES LIMITED Director(s): ANDREW WILLIAM COTTON, John Fraser, Thomas Stables HEADLEY PARK EIGHT, HEADLEY ROAD EAST, WOODLEY, READING, RG5 4SA Increase at existing operating centre: HEADLEY PARK EIGHT, HEADLEY ROAD EAST, WOODLEY, READING, RG5 4SA New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 44 vehicle(s)
Kings Ferry have provided me with a current fleetlist
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/KingsFerry.html
Current fleetlist updated
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Clarkes/Clarkes.html
Updated fleet list including Woods
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/Stewarts.html
There appears to be some new MMC200s for the West London University Contract. YX19OTV, alphabetically before Kev's, and YX19OUT listed on Bus Lists on the Web so far. Not my photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100485041@N05/46679141605/in/faves-128470593@N05/
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 13, 2019, 08:13:34 AM
There appears to be some new MMC200s for the West London University Contract. YX19OTV, alphabetically before Kev's, and YX19OUT listed on Bus Lists on the Web so far. Not my photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100485041@N05/46679141605/in/faves-128470593@N05/
I understand 'YX19OUT' is a typo it's actually 'YX19OTU' there's a third which is un ID'd at the mo. The 3 MX61 SWB E200's (8354 etc) are too old to enter the London LEZ zone now.
Former Kings Ferry levante,s BF63 ZSW /ZSX .Now at Xplore Dundee.
In April I spent some time in the afternoon on Victoria Embankment London and saw a good number of Kings Ferry coaches on the afternoon commuter services. I did the same last week but did not see a single KF coach . . . . Am I missing something here ?? :-[ :(
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on June 03, 2019, 07:11:13 PM
In April I spent some time in the afternoon on Victoria Embankment London and saw a good number of Kings Ferry coaches on the afternoon commuter services. I did the same last week but did not see a single KF coach . . . . Am I missing something here ?? :-[ :(
They changed the route coaches start from Blackfriars now & do not go as far as embankment
Quote from: woody38 on June 08, 2019, 02:48:04 PM
They changed the route coaches start from Blackfriars now & do not go as far as embankment
Many thanks for the update. I was starting to think I had experienced a "senior moment". :D :o
Woods have joined Stewarts in receiving their first new Mercedes Tourismo's:
BV19YLL & BV19YLM:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdan14025/48528215266
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thespian/48544787826
Woods as of today have become a NX coaches contractor operaing 2 new new routes serving Stansted, extract from Woods Facebook page:
Woods Coaches Ltd, part of National Express Group, are excited to announce the award of a new service through National Express PLC!
We are looking for experienced PCV Drivers to join our Coach Operation providing long distance services across the UK. Our current service routes are Stansted to Liverpool, and Stansted to Manchester. This service will be the 349 and 350 service.
It was only a matter of time to be fair. Owned by NatEx, they were bound to become a contractor.
I'm surprised Stewarts didn't get the 925/A4 and Reading got it.
Quite a few Stewarts & Woods coaches / mini coaches for sale in latest Routeone:
https://www.route-one.net/issue-809/
Tony,
Yesterday I was in Brighton & the following Solo was operating for The Big Lemon in all white:
8374 KX 15 BLJ Optare Solo M900SR SABSW3AC0ES291041 Optare Solo SR B32F
It is listed on their website as being on loan: https://thebiglemon.com/home/fleet/
Tourismo BF67 WJV is on the 410 to London; having just passed me in Sheldon
Quote from: CL on February 11, 2020, 01:36:44 PM
Tourismo BF67 WJV is on the 410 to London; having just passed me in Sheldon
Looks like Clarkes now have a round trip on the 410 and 420 for now. 07:00 410 from London to Wolverhampton, 12:05 410 from Wolverhampton to London, 14:00 420 from London to Birmingham and 19:30 420 from Birmingham to London.
NX takes over Lucketts Coaches
https://www.route-one.net/news/lucketts-travel-group-purchased-by-national-express/
Quote from: Ally on March 02, 2020, 11:27:03 AM
NX takes over Lucketts Coaches
https://www.route-one.net/news/lucketts-travel-group-purchased-by-national-express/
That's another 150+ coaches, didn't expect that one.
Fairly recent fleetlist here:
http://www.peterandsusan.co.uk/transport/lucketts.asp
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2020, 12:48:50 PM
That's another 150+ coaches, didn't expect that one.
Fairly recent fleetlist here:
http://www.peterandsusan.co.uk/transport/lucketts.asp
Got to be my favourite of the vehicles
https://www.flickr.com/photos/peterolding/48349376866/in/dateposted/
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2020, 09:15:30 PM
Got to be my favourite of the vehicles
https://www.flickr.com/photos/peterolding/48349376866/in/dateposted/
It looks far more attractive than it used too.
Looks like you've got a whole heap of fleetlists to add to your NX Group collection.
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2020, 09:30:41 PM
It looks far more attractive than it used too.
I think I have been on that very bus when it was on the 85 between Kingston and Putney Bridge.
I've put a Lucketts group fleet list on my website, this isn't an official one, so any corrections welcome
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Lucketts/a-Lucketts.html
I bet the previous owners of Lucketts are relieved they sold out when they did.
The Kings Ferry & Lucketts are to be merged in to one division called 'National Express Transport Solutions'
https://www.route-one.net/news/national-express-transport-solutions-brings-together-kings-ferry-lucketts/
Quote from: Winston on July 06, 2020, 05:21:20 PM
The Kings Ferry & Lucketts are to be merged in to one division called 'National Express Transport Solutions'
https://www.route-one.net/news/national-express-transport-solutions-brings-together-kings-ferry-lucketts/
Do you know if this new division includes Clarkes, Stewarts and Woods coaches?
Many thanks.
Quote from: kernow dave on July 11, 2020, 01:07:32 PM
Do you know if this new division includes Clarkes, Stewarts and Woods coaches?
Many thanks.
They are all part of Kings Ferry.
Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2020, 02:33:29 PM
They are all part of Kings Ferry.
Tony many thanks for the information.
Suggestions elsewhere that Go South Coast, Yellow Buses, Reading & Galloway have lost all their NX coach contracts to NX Transport Solutions.
Quote from: kernow dave on July 11, 2020, 03:30:48 PM
Tony many thanks for the information.
Fyi
https://cbwmagazine.com/national-express-transport-solutions-coach-division-launched/
Kings Ferry have an extra E200MMC addition on the BA Shuttles at Heathrow - YX68UKT
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68422630@N03/51197867489
The former Clarkes, Kings Ferry, Lucketts Group & Stewarts Group Coaches threads have all being merged under one single 'National Express Transport Solutions' Thread (N.E.T.S)
https://ne-transportsolutions.com/
It looks as though a start has been made on re-numbering som/all of the N.E.T.S coach fleet with Lucketts inspired fleet numbers comprising 4 - 6 digits, the first two numbers signify seating capacity i.e. 49**, 55*** etc. New numbers have started to appear on Clarkes & Kings Ferry coaches thus far:
4830 BX65WCC (Clarkes)
4978 BF67WKC (Clarkes)
7705 YJ70AWW (Kings Ferry)
53129 BV69LNG (Kings Ferry)
53130 BV69LNH (Kings Ferry)
Former Kings Ferry YN67VDC has transferred to Morton's & is also now numbered 572857
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave58282/51210367257
Hi all. Are there any N.E.T.S., vehicles stored at any West Midlands garages please ??
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on June 19, 2021, 10:58:16 AM
Hi all. Are there any N.E.T.S., vehicles stored at any West Midlands garages please ??
No
Quote from: winston on June 06, 2021, 02:04:38 PM
The former Clarkes, Kings Ferry, Lucketts Group & Stewarts Group Coaches threads have all being merged under one single 'National Express Transport Solutions' Thread (N.E.T.S)
https://ne-transportsolutions.com/
It looks as though a start has been made on renumbering some/all of the N.E.T.S coach fleet with Lucketts inspired fleet numbers comprising 4 - 6 digits, the first two numbers signify seating capacity i.e. 49**, 55*** etc. New numbers have started to appear on Clarkes & Kings Ferry coaches thus far:
4830 BX65WCC (Clarkes)
4978 BF67WKC (Clarkes)
7705 YJ70AWW (Kings Ferry)
53129 BV69LNG (Kings Ferry)
53130 BV69LNH (Kings Ferry)
Former Kings Ferry YN67VDC has transferred to Morton's & is also now numbered 572857
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave58282/51210367257
Good evening.
I wondered if there has been any further developments with this scheme and/or if there is an updated listing of the combined fleets.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Kings Ferry vehicles noted at Swindon on Nat Ex route 401 have been:
5730 BF68ZFE
53118 BU18YTR
In addition other Kings Ferry vehicles mentioned on other web sites are:
5735 BV20HSC
53120 BU18YTV
53124 BF68ZFK
53128 BF68ZFM
Kings Ferry are axing their entire commuter coach network at short notice from Xmas eve:
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/kings-ferry-service-axed-259315/
Although, the decesion is blamed on reduced demand due to Covid & no longer being commercially viable, the fact the Stagecoach East Kent operations are close by, could of also have had a bearing on the decision.
Quote from: winston on December 17, 2021, 11:59:42 AM
the fact the Stagecoach East Kent operations are close by, could of also have had a bearing on the decision.
Why would it have any bearing on the decision?
I have noticed that several National Express vehicles have been transferred to N.E.T.S companies and have been numbered NETS scheme, although still carrying the NatEx fleet number.
Is there a scheme to renumber NatEx coaches? And will there be a standard renumbering of the NETS fleet as opposed to the different styles currently used.
Thanking you in advance, and a Healthy, Happy New Year to you all.
Quote from: kernow dave on December 30, 2021, 03:50:46 PM
I have noticed that several National Express vehicles have been transferred to N.E.T.S companies and have been numbered NETS scheme, although still carrying the NatEx fleet number.
Is there a scheme to renumber NatEx coaches? And will there be a standard renumbering of the NETS fleet as opposed to the different styles currently used.
Thanking you in advance, and a Healthy, Happy New Year to you all.
There is a standard NETS numbering scheme, I hope to get the full fleet in one list on the main site over the weekend. National Express remain in the WMT range (officially with a C in front but not displayed)
Quote from: Tony on December 30, 2021, 03:58:35 PM
There is a standard NETS numbering scheme, I hope to get the full fleet in one list on the main site over the weekend. National Express remain in the WMT range (officially with a C in front but not displayed)
Tony many thanks for the reply and for all the work that you do on the fleet lists.
Getting accurate information from NETS isn't the easiest thing for me but I think I have the NETS fleetlist correct now. Only vehicles missing are the latest Levantes are the 21 plates taken out the latest NX Batch
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/KingsFerry.html
Not sure if anyone has more info the NETS is promoting on their website a new Aston depot from April.
https://ne-transportsolutions.com/project/national-express-transport-solutions-brings-coach-hire-to-west-midlands/
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 27, 2022, 07:42:52 AM
Not sure if anyone has more info the NETS is promoting on their website a new Aston depot from April.
https://ne-transportsolutions.com/project/national-express-transport-solutions-brings-coach-hire-to-west-midlands/
NEAT becomes part of NETS from April
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2022, 07:51:24 AM
NEAT becomes part of NETS from April
Cue speculation on NETS aquiring a local coach operator . . . . . . . . :-\ ::)
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on January 27, 2022, 05:20:22 PM
Cue speculation on NETS aquiring a local coach operator . . . . . . . . :-\ ::)
Bear in mind TKF withdrew a lot of London commuter routes, so there is probably spare vehicles around.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on January 27, 2022, 05:20:22 PM
Cue speculation on NETS aquiring a local coach operator . . . . . . . . :-\ ::)
Why? No point in buying an operator when you have a large garage you can just move your own coaches into.
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2022, 05:25:37 PM
Why? No point in buying an operator when you have a large garage you can just move your own coaches into.
Absolutely. I hate to imagine how many "spare" coaches operators/dealers have countrywide. My next question is has any decision been made to what brand names the Aston based coaches will carry ? To the average local customer , the names Kings Ferry , Lucketts , Mortons etc mean very little in this part of the world.
Saw on Facebook Kingsferry are getting 4 new buses one was at cov yesterday
Two E40s seen heading south on the M6 in all over Harry Potter vinyls yesterday - one at least had National Express on its destination screen.
E030-3 are LG22AYA/B/C/D
QuoteE030-3 are LG22AYA/B/C/D
Are these ADL BYD E400s?
Hi all
Updated Woods fleet correct from 17.05.2022:
1608 PO64FFW (VOR)
1906 PO15AZL
3002 YD19HGZ
3402 YD19HHL
4980 BF67WKA
4982 BX65WBV
4985 BX65WCA
4986 BX65WCF
5399 BV19YLM
53100 BV69LSC
53101 BV69LSD
53120 BU18YTV
5547 BF68LFL
5618 BV66WOY
5619 BV67JYH
5711 BV69LSE
5712 BV69 LSF
5730 BF68ZFE
5731 BF68ZFG
5736 YP17FLJ
Thanks
Andrew
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2022, 09:34:29 PME030-3 are LG22AYA/B/C/D
will these be coming back this way at all, like the Olympic fleet, or are they "gone" are any more following or are the rest staying up here ?
Quotewill these be coming back this way at all, like the Olympic fleet, or are they "gone" are any more following or are the rest staying up here ?
They are new for the Harry Potter service from Watford Station to the Studios
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 29, 2022, 10:22:35 PMAre these ADL BYD E400s?
Yes, same as the current electrics.
Quote from: SUNDAY.BASH on May 16, 2022, 07:12:15 PMare any more following or are the rest staying up here ?
Tony has posted details of 45 new electrics currently on order for Coventry:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/E001.html
Quote from: andy1571 on May 16, 2022, 04:05:42 PMHi all
Updated Woods fleet correct from 17.05.2022:
1608 PO64FFW (VOR)
1906 PO15AZL
3002 YD19HGZ
3402 YD19HHL
4980 BF67WKA
4982 BX65WBV
4985 BX65WCA
4986 BX65WCF
5399 BV19YLM
53100 BV69LSC
53101 BV69LSD
53120 BU18YTV
5547 BF68LFL
5618 BV66WOY
5619 BV67JYH
5711 BV69LSE
5712 BV69 LSF
5730 BF68ZFE
5731 BF68ZFG
5736 YP17FLJ
Thanks
Andrew
BF68LFL is 283 based at Aston.
Quote from: BN on May 16, 2022, 08:52:42 PMBF68LFL is 283 based at Aston.
That's why I was careful to put "from 17.05.22" - it's not there any more.
Whats the link between Mullany's and N.E.
QuoteWhats the link between Mullany's and N.E.
There isn't one.
None.
Been seeing a Clarkes coach in Banbury bus station the past couple of mornings, either displaying "National Express" or "Private contract" on the blinds. Keep forgetting to ID it, but mostly posting to see if anyone knows any gen why it's suddenly started coming?
Hearing that NX have aquired the former Arriva Midlands South Wigston depot which was vacated by them in October 2021 for the woods operations with work starting already to move from their base on nearby Gloucester Crescent.
Quote from: SSmith2009 on July 29, 2022, 10:43:18 PMHearing that NX have aquired the former Arriva Midlands South Wigston depot which was vacated by them in October 2021 for the woods operations with work starting already to move from their base on nearby Gloucester Crescent.
Theyre also doing the Fox Connect contract too
GV21KLZ and GY70WKB have been spotted on it in Fox Connect livery
2 of 4 brand new tourismos arrived today at Lucketts, excited!!!
Quote from: BN on August 16, 2022, 08:35:42 PM2 of 4 brand new tourismos arrived today at Lucketts, excited!!!
Tourismos seem to be NX's favoured coach option.
Any idea if any other subsidiaries have new coaches on order?
It will be interesting to see what happens with the former Yellow Buses depot, it's a big site.
Quote from: winston on August 16, 2022, 09:00:50 PMTourismos seem to be NX's favoured coach option.
Any idea if any other subsidiaries have new coaches on order?
It will be interesting to see what happens with the former Yellow Buses depot, it's a big site.
Yes correct.
Yes they do
Lots of plans.
SH205: SH208 Starthill - Lucketts
Quote from: BN on August 18, 2022, 07:05:06 AMSH205: SH208 Starthill - Lucketts
SH205 & SH208 were both last at Woods.
BV22VTZ & VUA that were new to Clarke's have now moved on to Bruce's, supposedly swapped.
QuoteSH205 & SH208 were both last at Woods.
BV22VTZ & VUA that were new to Clarke's have now moved on to Bruce's, supposedly swapped.
205 & 208 were actually last at Clarkes, they moved there from Woods in June
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 07:42:27 PM205 & 208 were actually last at Clarkes, they moved there from Woods in June
Clarke would make more sense to be honest as they came through the manager of the Southeast Region.
QuoteClarke would make more sense to be honest as they came through the manager of the Southeast Region.
208 now has three different fleetnumbers on the front!
208, 5624 & 56-24-56
X562456 - BX16 CMK | Scania K440EB6, Caetano Levante 2 (C55F... | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjf-southsea/52289103277/in/photolist-2nhQNAL-2nEBjFp-2nAJY7i-2nhig1y-2nEpAG7-2nhLN5q-2nh4fMg-2n7xMSa/)
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 09:02:59 PM208 now has three different fleetnumbers on the front!
208, 5624 & 56-24-56
X562456 - BX16 CMK | Scania K440EB6, Caetano Levante 2 (C55F... | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjf-southsea/52289103277/in/photolist-2nhQNAL-2nEBjFp-2nAJY7i-2nhig1y-2nEpAG7-2nhLN5q-2nh4fMg-2n7xMSa/)
I'll sort that out
Quote from: BN on August 17, 2022, 12:40:17 PMLots of plans.
Looks like NX have got big plans for Yeomans Way depot, Bournemouth - 100 vehicles allocation has been added on to Lucketts license:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/21107
QuoteLooks like NX have got big plans for Yeomans Way depot, Bournemouth - 100 vehicles allocation has been added on to Lucketts license:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/21107
Although the total authorisation is 110 and they also have 90 at Fareham
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 10:19:03 PMAlthough the total authorisation is 110 and they also have 90 at Fareham
I was referring to the 100 Vehicle authorisation added for Yeoman's Way
Surely the total 110 vehicle Authorisation is wrong? It was 115 total vehicles before Yeoman's Way was even added i.e. 90 x Wallington, Fareham, 5 x Gosport & 20 x 5 Standard Way, Fareham.
In addition, Clarkes have a new 10 vehicle authorisation at CCH, Sipson Road, West Drayton as well as 12 vehicles at Hounslow.
Whilst NX Coaches Ltd (PK2040609) have a new 15 vehicle authorisation at Chartwell Park, Feathers Wharf, Wandsworth, London, SW18 1FW,
Quote from: SSmith2009 on July 29, 2022, 10:43:18 PMHearing that NX have aquired the former Arriva Midlands South Wigston depot which was vacated by them in October 2021 for the woods operations with work starting already to move from their base on nearby Gloucester Crescent.
That is correct.
Quote from: BN on August 16, 2022, 08:35:42 PM2 of 4 brand new tourismos arrived today at Lucketts, excited!!!
New tourismos:
53136 BG22NTD
53137 BG22NTF
53138 BV72YBB
6110 BV72YBA
Plus 5 for TKF.
Transfer
3413 TKF-HLC
Quote from: BN on August 29, 2022, 08:23:31 PMTransfer
3413 TKF-HLC
Thanks for the updates BN.
Is HLC = Lucketts?
NX are ramping up coach services to Heathrow & Gatwicks airports from Dorset on Monday, they will be operated by Lucketts, I assume Lucketts will need extra NX coaches:
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/21645503.national-express-expands-airport-connections-dorset/
Quote from: winston on September 18, 2022, 10:54:25 AMNX are ramping up coach services to Heathrow & Gatwicks airports from Dorset on Monday, they will be operated by Lucketts, I assume Lucketts will need extra NX coaches:
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/21645503.national-express-expands-airport-connections-dorset/
I presume they might use coaches from other parts of NETS or their own livery fleet
Quote from: winston on September 18, 2022, 10:54:25 AMNX are ramping up coach services to Heathrow & Gatwicks airports from Dorset on Monday, they will be operated by Lucketts, I assume Lucketts will need extra NX coaches:
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/21645503.national-express-expands-airport-connections-dorset/
Lucketts Bournemouth depot only have 4 runs currently, they have 9 coaches ready for service. Solent and Lucketts Fareham should have enough spares to cover, however I believe a few of the new orders may arrive.
Quote from: BN on September 18, 2022, 10:07:30 PMLucketts Bournemouth depot only have 4 runs currently, they have 9 coaches ready for service. Solent and Lucketts Fareham should have enough spares to cover, however I believe a few of the new orders may arrive.
Is the new order you're referring too more Levante's? Or the Tourismo's you've previously mentioned?
Are a number of ex Yellow Buses still in store at Bournemouth depot?
Quote from: winston on September 19, 2022, 11:42:39 AMIs the new order you're referring too more Levante's? Or the Tourismo's you've previously mentioned?
Are a number of ex Yellow Buses still in store at Bournemouth depot?
Levante's, they have already started deliveries, Bruce's, Clarke's, Edwards etc.No, there are no buses left at Bournemouth now.
Quote from: BN on September 20, 2022, 09:37:14 AMLevante's, they have already started deliveries, Bruce's, Clarke's, Edwards etc.
No, there are no buses left at Bournemouth now.
I've seen that Edward's had a new batch of 22 plate Scania / Levante's in Aug, Bruce's had 2 x 22 plate ex Clarke's BV22VTZ & VUA, with Clarke's supposedly having 2 new ones instead (not seen any new deliveries reported) + Yellow Buses had 4 x Scania / Levante in July before going in to Adminstration. I've not seen any reports of any 72 plate Levante's, I also seem to recall someone/somewhere suggesting that no more Levante's would be ordered, assume that's incorrect?
Bustimes hasn't tracked NX Coaches since July, so it's harder to keep tabs on any new deliveries.
Bournemouth depot is a big depot for only 9 coaches, I assume Solent Coaches will be moving in soon ?
Quote from: winston on September 20, 2022, 10:22:20 PMI've seen that Edward's had a new batch of 22 plate Scania / Levante's in Aug, Bruce's had 2 x 22 plate ex Clarke's BV22VTZ & VUA, with Clarke's supposedly having 2 new ones instead (not seen any new deliveries reported) + Yellow Buses had 4 x Scania / Levante in July before going in to Adminstration. I've not seen any reports of any 72 plate Levante's, I also seem to recall someone/somewhere suggesting that no more Levante's would be ordered, assume that's incorrect?
Bustimes hasn't tracked NX Coaches since July, so it's harder to keep tabs on any new deliveries.
Bournemouth depot is a big depot for only 9 coaches, I assume Solent Coaches will be moving in soon ?
I heard somewhere that there is approx 40 on order currently, including the 22 plate batches.
Yes that is correct, Solent will be moving into BTL and there is pvr increases on the 204 & 205 too so probably looking at a fleet of 40 vehicles there to start with.
Quote from: winston on September 20, 2022, 10:22:20 PMBustimes hasn't tracked NX Coaches since July, so it's harder to keep tabs on any new deliveries.
That's to do with the NX live tracking API no longer showing certain information
Quote from: BN on September 21, 2022, 07:15:01 AMI heard somewhere that there is approx 40 on order currently, including the 22 plate batches.
Yes that is correct, Solent will be moving into BTL and there is pvr increases on the 204 & 205 too so probably looking at a fleet of 40 vehicles there to start with.
Even once Solent moves in with a fleet of 40 vehicles, it will still only be at approx 25% capacity.
New Levante for Lucketts BV72XEW:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0gRfujsnq95REZN42iRGCKGS63SzuCLaqagw14Fd83u4W2p7AthGBccGTQ22VR4P9l&id=100057675660244
Quote from: winston on October 12, 2022, 03:45:21 PMNew Levante for Lucketts BV72XEW:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0gRfujsnq95REZN42iRGCKGS63SzuCLaqagw14Fd83u4W2p7AthGBccGTQ22VR4P9l&id=100057675660244
Looks as though Lucketts have 3 so far: BV72XEU, BV72XEW & BV72XEZ
Am I right that the TKF coaches BV19 XPY & BV19 XPZ, despite carrying the EK fleet numbers (and someone on bustimes keep changing them to the EK fleet numbers), should be 49124 and 49125?
QuoteAm I right that the TKF coaches BV19 XPY & BV19 XPZ, despite carrying the EK fleet numbers (and someone on bustimes keep changing them to the EK fleet numbers), should be 49124 and 49125?
You are, yes
NX have launched a new brand & livery for their combined Coach Holidays 'Touromo'
https://m.facebook.com/100064289462295/posts/pfbid0jfLxjouX9b7Vy4gpr6P2x94r9PLDUWWzkmWyWhmmeWrJxxG3b3uRq3Hqei3qvARGl/
Quote from: winston on January 09, 2023, 11:33:55 PMNX have launched a new brand & livery for their combined Coach Holidays 'Touromo'
https://m.facebook.com/100064289462295/posts/pfbid0jfLxjouX9b7Vy4gpr6P2x94r9PLDUWWzkmWyWhmmeWrJxxG3b3uRq3Hqei3qvARGl/
Will single passengers be penalised as some tour operators charge a supplement for the solo passenger for hotel room.
Noticed only three departure points for West mids or would home pick apply to the main departure point.
NETS are taking over some school routes in Bournemouth currently operated by Xelagroup Yellow Coaches subsidiary which is ceasing entirely in February:
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23263010.happening-school-buses-xelagroup-yellow-coaches-pulls/
I'm assuming Woods Coaches are still in the process of moving their operations fully to the former Arriva Leicester, Wigston Depot ? or are they intending to operate from both depots?
[th]Operating centre[/th]
[th]Vehicles[/th]
[th]Trailers[/th]
|
| BEDFORD ROAD, WIGSTON, LE18 4XD, GB | 25 | 0 |
| BUS GARAGE, STATION STREET, WIGSTON, LE18 4TH, GB | 41 | 0 |
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/21610
I'm also assuming the transfer of NETS West Midlands Fleet & WMT Ltd NX coaches to the Woods Coaches license has now been abandoned?
Section 2.1 – New Applications ReceivedPD2059238 SI WOODS COACHES LTDDirector(s): JOHN FRASER, THOMAS STABLES, Christopher James Hardy223 GLOUCESTER CRESCENT, WIGSTON, LE18 4YHOperating Centre: 63 UPPER THOMAS STREET, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5ADAuthorisation: 40 vehicle(s)Transport Manager(s): ANDREW JAMES McKINNON, Mark KentNew Undertaking: Vehicles with eight passenger seats or less will not be operatedunder the licence without the prior written agreement of the Traffic Commissionerwho may require you to agree to certain undertakings. Attached to Licence.New Undertaking: Limousines and novelty type vehicles are not to be operatedunder this operator's licence. Attached to Licence.
Looks as though Clarkes of London have gained at least 7 new Scania / Levante 3's for NX route 025 registered:
BV72XGC / XGD / XGE / XGF / XGG / XGH / XGJ
BV72XGC may actually be allocated to Worthing Coaches for the 025, as it's currently parked in their depot.
There's 6 more new Levante's registered on DVLA too, yet to be allocated:
BV72XFZ
BV72XFY
BV72XFX
BV72XGA
BV72XGB
BV72XGK
Latest so far is the info I have:
NETS Aston
401 BV72XGT
402 BV72 XGU
NETS Bournemouth
| 55-53-55 | BV72 XEU |
| 55-54-55 | BV72 XEW |
| 55-55-55 | BV72 XEZ |
NETS Worthing
| 55-60-55 | BV72 XGC |
| 55-61-55 | BV72 XGD |
| 55-62-55 | BV72 XGE |
| 55-63-55 | BV72 XGF |
| 55-64-55 | BV72 XGG |
| 55-65-66 | BV72 XGH |
| 55-66-55 | BV72 XGG |
NETS Dover
BV72 XFENETS Leicester
@BN in addition to your list:
NETS LeicesterBV72XFWBV72XGWNETS Aston (ex Leicester)4982 BX65WBV4985 BX65WCAI've also noticed that NETS, Aston Depot now has an additional staff / coach parking area the opposite side of East End Foods to the depot.
Also NXWM 232 appears to have transferred or been loaned to Chalfont's since at least January this year.
Looks as though Woods Coaches Ltd will be taking over the NX & NETS coaches based at Aston Depot from WMT Ltd & also setting up an additional base at NXWM Park Lane garage for 14 coaches:
Section 2.1 – New Applications Received
PD2064545 SI WOODS COACHES LTD
Director(s): JOHN FRASER, THOMAS STABLES, CHRISTOPHER HARDY
WIGSTON GARAGE, STATION STREET, WIGSTON, LE18 4TH
Operating Centre: 80 PARK ROAD, ASTON, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5PL
Authorisation: 45 vehicle(s)
Operating Centre: WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD, PARK LANE,
WOLVERHAMPTON, WV10 9QG
Authorisation: 14 vehicle(s)
Transport Manager(s): JENNY MERNAGH, CARL GRAYSTON
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1149537/np_2599_07_April_2023.pdf
When did Woods move into the old Arriva depot in Wigston and how many vehicles are based there, seems a large building for Woods vehicles.
Quote from: Mayfield on April 14, 2023, 06:07:40 PMWhen did Woods move into the old Arriva depot in Wigston and how many vehicles are based there, seems a large building for Woods vehicles.
Woods Coaches moved in to Wigston depot a few months back following refurbishment, they have authorisation for 41 vehicles.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/21610
Woods Coaches have now been granted a new WM license for 59 vehicles, not sure when they officially takeover the NETS (WM) & NX coaches from NXWM.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/607292/
Section 2.2 – New Applications Granted
PD2064545 SI WOODS COACHES LTD
Director(s): JOHN FRASER, THOMAS STABLES, CHRISTOPHER HARDY
WIGSTON GARAGE, STATION STREET, WIGSTON, LE18 4TH
Operating Centre: 80 PARK ROAD, ASTON, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5PL
Authorisation: 45 vehicle(s)
Operating Centre: WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD, PARK LANE,
WOLVERHAMPTON, WV10 9QG
Authorisation: 14 vehicle(s)
Transport Manager(s): Jenny Mernagh, CARL JOHN GRAYSTON
Quote from: winston on May 30, 2023, 05:01:22 PMWoods Coaches have now been granted a new WM license for 59 vehicles, not sure when they officially takeover the NETS (WM) & NX coaches from NXWM.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/607292/
Section 2.2 – New Applications Granted
PD2064545 SI WOODS COACHES LTD
Director(s): JOHN FRASER, THOMAS STABLES, CHRISTOPHER HARDY
WIGSTON GARAGE, STATION STREET, WIGSTON, LE18 4TH
Operating Centre: 80 PARK ROAD, ASTON, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5PL
Authorisation: 45 vehicle(s)
Operating Centre: WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD, PARK LANE,
WOLVERHAMPTON, WV10 9QG
Authorisation: 14 vehicle(s)
Transport Manager(s): Jenny Mernagh, CARL JOHN GRAYSTON
This week
@winston Park Lane will consist of 10 private hire vehicles and 4 network vehicles, under the Woods licence. Watch out for some exciting transfers!
Quote from: BN on May 31, 2023, 07:30:02 AMThis week @winston
Park Lane will consist of 10 private hire vehicles and 4 network vehicles, under the Woods licence. Watch out for some exciting transfers!
@BN - Did the transfer of WMT Ltd coaches to the new Woods Coaches license take place last week as expected?
Any chance you could provide a fleet update of what's now at Aston & Wolverhampton depots?
91-95 have now arrived back from Ambassador, for use between Aston & Leicester depots.
Quote from: BN on June 25, 2023, 06:59:45 AM91-95 have now arrived back from Ambassador, for use between Aston & Leicester depots.
Thanks BN,
Will the former WMT Ltd coach fleet retain their NXWM fleetnumbers? Or will they receive NETS fleetnumbers?
Quote from: winston on June 25, 2023, 10:18:22 AMThanks BN,
Will the former WMT Ltd coach fleet retain their NXWM fleetnumbers? Or will they receive NETS fleetnumbers?
Good question
@winston I'm not sure. Be a good idea too, plus it's all under the same management now so possibly?
Nice set of NETS photos
@Tony
Quote from: BN on July 02, 2023, 07:38:26 AMGood question @winston I'm not sure. Be a good idea too, plus it's all under the same management now so possibly?
I'm assuming the ex WMT Ltd vehicles (Woods, Aston) are still on the WMT system, whilst the Woods Leicester vehicles are on the NETS system. To be honest, the NETS fleet numbering is a big mess, even the latest version with large batches split. There are so many vehicles still carrying old or multiple fleet numbers. Plus there's a mis mash of liveries & brands working from various subsidiaries at present.The NX Coaches Ltd Network Fleet at Luton, Start Hill, Victoria & Wandsworth is all still in the WMT numbering scheme too.
Next batch of 9 now on.
I have a couple of the 23 plates, just waiting for full vehicle details before putting those on
All for Woods?
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2023, 06:06:10 AMTourismisos with Kings Ferry
@Tony - Fyi, that update still isn't showing on the NETS fleetlist on your main site
In addition, Woods have received 3 further Scania / Levante 3's based at Leicester:
BV23ZVN
BV23ZVO
BV23ZVZ
BLOTW is quoting their fleet numbers as 366-368, but being Leicester based vehicles, they should have NETS fleetnumbers as per recent batches.
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2023, 06:06:10 AMTourismisos with Kings Ferry
Here's pictures of 4 of the 9:
BF23CKL
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/141674251@N02/53003778065)BF23CKK (https://www.flickr.com/photos/trevor-plackett/52980658564)
BF23CKO (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69558134@N05/52929918447)
BF23CKX (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141674251@N02/53006973907)
I still have some work to do on it, but the NETS fleetlist is now a lot closer to be correct again
Quote from: Tony on July 04, 2023, 09:00:18 PMI still have some work to do on it, but the NETS fleetlist is now a lot closer to be correct again
Thanks Tony, You're on fire tonight....🔥🔥🔥
230 BV17GRZ is also being prepped to re-enter the fleet at Birmingham as well.
Quote from: BN on July 05, 2023, 09:12:56 AM230 BV17GRZ is also being prepped to re-enter the fleet at Birmingham as well.
Where did 230 return from?
It's a shame that NX didn't take on the DeCourcey's batch of 17 plate Scania / Levante 2's, they'd have been really useful now instead of various operators having to re-instate 63 / 64 / 65 plate Levante's back on to the network.
It's good to see NX coaches are now growing rapidly, even against increasing competition from Flixbus. Hopefully, the profit growth for NX coaches will compensate / offset for poorer profitability at NXWM over the next few years for the combined NX UK division.
It's back, after 2 1/2 years, I have just put a load of NX Coach photos on the main site and found I photographed it at Glastonbury!
National Express LA230 (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/LA230.html)
Quote from: Tony on July 05, 2023, 08:55:43 PMIt's back, after 2 1/2 years, I have just put a load of NX Coach photos on the main site and found I photographed it at Glastonbury!
National Express LA230 (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/LA230.html)
Thanks Tony!
Has it just been mothballed somewhere the past 2.5 years then? Are there more in the same situation?
I believe former 14 plate SH194 & SH195 may have a returned to the network too with Jason Edwards Travek, Iver.
Quote from: winston on July 05, 2023, 09:18:43 PMThanks Tony!
Has it just been mothballed somewhere the past 2.5 years then? Are there more in the same situation?
I believe former 14 plate SH194 & SH195 may have a returned to the network too with Jason Edwards Travek, Iver.
I saw 194 getting towed into Scania Avonmouth during Glastonbury one day I was picking a Z bus up from there. I have a rear end photo on my computer. 230 after withdrawal from Luton was dumped in the car park at Stansted Airport along with all the others in that batch. It got towed to Hartshornes at Willenhall when all the others in the batch came to Walsall and remained there in bits for ages. It disappeared when Hartshornes stopped doing bus repairs in Willenhall so presumably has been at Pensnett
Quote from: Tony on July 05, 2023, 09:27:43 PMI saw 194 getting towed into Scania Avonmouth during Glastonbury one day I was picking a Z bus up from there. I have a rear end photo on my computer. 230 after withdrawal from Luton was dumped in the car park at Stansted Airport along with all the others in that batch. It got towed to Hartshornes at Willenhall when all the others in the batch came to Walsall and remained there in bits for ages. It disappeared when Hartshornes stopped doing bus repairs in Willenhall so presumably has been at Pensnett
Jason Edwards Travel were working to/from Glastonbury, plus other NX extras & helping out Kings Ferry on the 260.
They're supposed to have taken over the A5 from Start Hill since Monday, I thought it was I'm full, but Start Hill coaches are still tracking along with Jason Edwards Travel BV72XEX Levante 3A & BV23ZWE Levante 3. Former SH194 & SH195 aren't tracking at all.
Quote from: Tony on July 04, 2023, 09:00:18 PMI still have some work to do on it, but the NETS fleetlist is now a lot closer to be correct again
@Tony - not sure what work you've still got left to do on the NETS fleetlist:
Do you have any idea what the NETS fleetnumber for BX65WCE is? It's still carrying old fleet number 8833 & has been used in service a fair bit.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128987711@N07/52858690847
Also the latest 3 x Scania / Levante 3's based at Woods, Leicester:
BV23ZVN
BV23ZVO
BV23ZVZ
BX65 WCE (nor BX65 WCD) appear on either the NX Coach system or the NETS fleet list, but it was allocated 48-27 when it was at King's Ferry, so I have added it into the list as such
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2023, 06:31:22 PMBX65 WCE (nor BX65 WCD) appear on either the NX Coach system or the NETS fleet list, but it was allocated 48-27 when it was at King's Ferry, so I have added it into the list as such
Thanks Tony ! I can understand BX65WCD not being on the system as it's yet to be used, but BX65WCE has been in use daily since 24th June.
Not sure if this is the right thread but I have seen a post that touromo by national express is set to close in September
Quote from: winston on July 07, 2023, 07:17:52 PMThanks Tony ! I can understand BX65WCD not being on the system as it's yet to be used, but BX65WCE has been in use daily since 24th June.
BX65 WCD was used yesterday & today
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 07, 2023, 07:43:04 PMNot sure if this is the right thread but I have seen a post that touromo by national express is set to close in September
Providing the link to the article:
https://www.touromo.com/update/
There's only excursions showing up until September.
Quote from: ellspurs on July 07, 2023, 07:49:28 PMProviding the link to the article:
https://www.touromo.com/update/
There's only excursions showing up until September.
There's only been a couple of Lucketts tri-axle coaches painted in Touromo livery to date, so that may well be the case.
Having just read the Touromo update, it sounds as though there may well be a mass withdrawal of coaches in Ocotober. It now seems a pretty pointless exercise buying all these coach companies, as many of them are focused on holidays / day trips etc.
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2023, 07:47:03 PMBX65 WCD was used yesterday & today
It's me, I'm getting confused, BX65WCD has been back in use since 12th May.
230 now finally in service
229 now being prepped to return to the fleet at Aston
5618 from Johnson bros. MOT'd at Wolverhampton, also now ready for Leicester
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2023, 06:42:13 AM230 now finally in service
229 now being prepped to return to the fleet at Aston
5618 from Johnson bros. MOT'd at Wolverhampton, also now ready for Leicester
@BN I thought 5618 BV66WOY was already a Woods, Leicester vehicle?
Quote from: winston on August 14, 2023, 07:04:49 PM@BN I thought 5618 BV66WOY was already a Woods, Leicester vehicle?
Yes
@winston but been parked up for a while apparently.
Another one MOT'd at Wolverhampton and ready for Wigston is 4828.
53120 & 5398 MOT'd this week for Woods
Quote from: BN on August 25, 2023, 04:44:35 PM53120 & 5398 MOT'd this week for Woods
@BN how come Woods don't do their own MOT's ? Bit of a distance between Wolverhampton & Wigston.
Quote from: winston on August 25, 2023, 08:37:38 PM@BN how come Woods don't do their own MOT's ? Bit of a distance between Wolverhampton & Wigston.
Remember Woods have an operating centre registered at Wolverhampton garage.
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2023, 08:52:53 PMRemember Woods have an operating centre registered at Wolverhampton garage.
What's the designated (TC) and physical allocation at WN please?
Quote from: Wumpty on August 25, 2023, 09:00:07 PMWhat's the designated (TC) and physical allocation at WN please?
There's no fixed allocation at Wolverhampton, the authority just allows 14 vehicles to be parked or maintained there at any time
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2023, 08:52:53 PMRemember Woods have an operating centre registered at Wolverhampton garage.
I hadn't forgotten, but with Woods having the former Arriva Wigston depot & now much better facilities, I'd have thought they'd do their own MOT's for Wigston based vehicles.
I'd have expected Aston allocated Woods Coaches to potentially be MOT'd by NXWM WN, but not Leicester based vehicles.
Quote from: winston on August 25, 2023, 08:37:38 PM@BN how come Woods don't do their own MOT's ? Bit of a distance between Wolverhampton & Wigston.
Just a support function
@winston we have spare slots and also as Tony says some are randomly based at WN so makes sense to help out where we can.
Bear in mind Aston & Wigston are now twinned there will be more vehicle movements depending on what work comes in, also the size of the fleet is quite considerable now.
53115 another one done for Woods
Quote from: BN on September 01, 2023, 12:47:25 PM53115 another one done for Woods
Thanks
@BN Any idea if Woods (Aston or Leicester) are due any mirrorless Levante 3A's? Thought I saw a comment on FB that 5 may be due.
I'm assuming that BV23ZVO delivered new to Woods, may soon return from Jason Edwards Travel, now that they've just received 4 x new mirrorless Levante 3A's
Quote from: winston on September 01, 2023, 01:43:21 PMThanks @BN
Any idea if Woods (Aston or Leicester) are due any mirrorless Levante 3A's? Thought I saw a comment on FB that 5 may be due.
I'm assuming that BV23ZVO delivered new to Woods, may soon return from Jason Edwards Travel, now that they've just received 4 x new mirrorless Levante 3A's
@winston 11 more are due I believe
5711 for this week at Wolverhampton. Lovely private hire coach
94 finally MOT'D ready for the road.
Quote from: BN on September 16, 2023, 02:17:06 PM94 finally MOT'D ready for the road.
Are you sure it's 94 & not 92?
94 is in service today of the 440 from Leicester
Quote from: winston on September 16, 2023, 02:27:10 PMAre you sure it's 94 & not 92?
94 is in service today of the 440 from Leicester
We had 94 for MOT BX65WAJ, definitely as it was me that presented it, they collected it same day.
Quote from: BN on September 16, 2023, 03:28:51 PMWe had 94 for MOT BX65WAJ, definitely as it was me that presented it, they collected it same day.
Fair enough, 94 was in service Friday too on the 440.
92 doesn't appear to have returned to service still as yet.
53100 was this weeks MOT, pride of Woods.
Fleet moves coming I assume, a number of the i6's are being returned and/or sold.
5724 in for MOT this week, ready to return.
ex Newbury & District 1416 BV19XPD Scania / Levante 2 appears to have transferred to Woods, Wigston depot. Assume it will gain a new NETS fleetnumber.
Newbury & District have come off work NX as of 8th October with the withdrawal of the 402.
Quote from: winston on October 21, 2023, 03:42:26 PMex Newbury & District 1416 BV19XPD Scania / Levante 2 appears to have transferred to Woods, Wigston depot. Assume it will gain a new NETS fleetnumber.
Newbury & District have come off work NX as of 8th October with the withdrawal of the 402.
BV19 XPC/XPD have both joined the fleet at Wigston
49124; 49125 Dover - Wigston
BV69KPT Ambassador - Wigston
95 Reserve - Aston
4828; 4829; 4831; 4833; 4982; 4983; 4984; 4985; 53114; 53115 withdrawn
220 Aston-Withdrawn
380 New-Aston
Quote from: BN on December 02, 2023, 05:45:55 PM380 New-Aston
Thanks
@BN, are there still 11 new Levante 3A's due in total?
Quote from: winston on December 02, 2023, 09:03:38 PMThanks @BN, are there still 11 new Levante 3A's due in total?
Yes I believe that is still the plan, all for Aston.
Looks like:
5398; 53100 Wigston-Fareham
I understand the latest date that Kings Ferry (Gillingham Depot) is being closed down is now May, this is after a number of U-turns & it is still losing money, the closure was announced as long ago as the September 30th Mobico Trading Statement 2023:
https://www.route-one.net/news/national-express-transport-solutions-to-close-gillingham-sydenham/