West Bromwich Garage

[MW]

Presidents in 2000.

No President's have been new to West Brom, They are Yardley Wood cast off's in 2002 when the Trident's replaced them on the 6. 4087-4097, 4099 all moved in May 2002 and then moved to BC when Hockley Closed. I'm guessing to make room for the 42** Volvo's and other buses gained during the closure. West Brom didn't have any President's again until 2007 when the 451 gained refurbished examples.

My mistake, I confuse Hockley & West Bromwich a lot, where the Presidents and ALX400s are concerned!

[Tony]

Full histories of all vehicles in the 4001-4260 range are now on their pages on the main site. I am slowly going through checking every page to make sure the history is correct and putting previous page links on along with removing all codes and replacing them with full vehicle descriptions to make the site more understandable to novice bus spotters.

As you can imagine this is a mammoth task, as I am not only doing it for NXWM but all operators. This is why adding the Metrobus histories has stalled a bit. All of 2679-2735 are now finished with full histories and these will be added for all Metrobuses soon

[Gareth]

Yeah,AS IF! can anyone tell me when Sandwells retirement home for second hand/hand me down buses,(better Known as WB) -last had a new delivery??. My earliest record is of 2598
Jan 1983, the latest may be at least 12 years ago- 4087 to 4098,I imagine. :-\ (most of which are currently providing blanket coverage on the 451.) although I suspect these may have gone to HY after a week? :-\

2598 was most definitely new to Washwood Heath, not WB. Part of the 2583-2600 batch they had.

[Tony]

Yeah,AS IF! can anyone tell me when Sandwells retirement home for second hand/hand me down buses,(better Known as WB) -last had a new delivery??. My earliest record is of 2598
Jan 1983, the latest may be at least 12 years ago- 4087 to 4098,I imagine. :-\ (most of which are currently providing blanket coverage on the 451.) although I suspect these may have gone to HY after a week? :-\

2598 was most definitely new to Washwood Heath, not WB. Part of the 2583-2600 batch they had.

Not quite true WH had 2586-2600; 2583/4 were new to LH. I was the first driver to drive WH's last Mk2 (not mk2a) 2910 in service, all of 2907-10 were first used on rail replacement between New Street and Aston while a bridge was replaced just outside New Street, and I remember it having the 'new car' smell, something new buses don't have any more

[Stu]

Not quite true WH had 2586-2600; 2583/4 were new to LH. I was the first driver to drive WH's last Mk2 (not mk2a) 2910 in service, all of 2907-10 were first used on rail replacement between New Street and Aston while a bridge was replaced just outside New Street, and I remember it having the 'new car' smell, something new buses don't have any more

I dunno, I was on one of Pensnetts new B7RLEs on Sunday on the 120, and it still remarkably had that 'new-car' scent.  :D

[Gareth]

Yeah,AS IF! can anyone tell me when Sandwells retirement home for second hand/hand me down buses,(better Known as WB) -last had a new delivery??. My earliest record is of 2598
Jan 1983, the latest may be at least 12 years ago- 4087 to 4098,I imagine. :-\ (most of which are currently providing blanket coverage on the 451.) although I suspect these may have gone to HY after a week? :-\

2598 was most definitely new to Washwood Heath, not WB. Part of the 2583-2600 batch they had.

Not quite true WH had 2586-2600; 2583/4 were new to LH. I was the first driver to drive WH's last Mk2 (not mk2a) 2910 in service, all of 2907-10 were first used on rail replacement between New Street and Aston while a bridge was replaced just outside New Street, and I remember it having the 'new car' smell, something new buses don't have any more

Of course 2583 was Lea Hall. Shame on me!  :-[ I blame a twitch of the finger hitting a 3 instead of the 6!  ;)

[swifty]

lol Windy no need for sorry, damn ? button stuck on this comp lol

[John]

I saw 4312 and 4314 new parked outside WB in March 2002. The 4312-30 batch were originally intended for the 74 but plans change and they eventually ended up on the 79 which moved to WN in the May 2002 service changes.

Tony, do you have any pictures of this batch with 74 branding before it was replaced with 79 branding?

I don't think any gained branding, as they moved to Wolverhampton before branding was applied, but I might be wrong.
I think they moved to avoid introducing another vehicle type to West Brom, as Wolverhampton already had Trident's.

[John]

Ah right, ok. Thanks

[Tony]

I saw 4312 and 4314 new parked outside WB in March 2002. The 4312-30 batch were originally intended for the 74 but plans change and they eventually ended up on the 79 which moved to WN in the May 2002 service changes.

Tony, do you have any pictures of this batch with 74 branding before it was replaced with 79 branding?

I don't think any gained branding, as they moved to Wolverhampton before branding was applied, but I might be wrong.
I think they moved to avoid introducing another vehicle type to West Brom, as Wolverhampton already had Trident's.

I don't have any photos of them with 74 branding on, but they were all parked up at Walsall garage when new with 74 branding on

[4504]

Anyone know when they're planning to get rid of the green branding

I saw 4312 and 4314 new parked outside WB in March 2002. The 4312-30 batch were originally intended for the 74 but plans change and they eventually ended up on the 79 which moved to WN in the May 2002 service changes.

Tony, do you have any pictures of this batch with 74 branding before it was replaced with 79 branding?

I don't think any gained branding, as they moved to Wolverhampton before branding was applied, but I might be wrong.
I think they moved to avoid introducing another vehicle type to West Brom, as Wolverhampton already had Trident's.

I don't have any photos of them with 74 branding on, but they were all parked up at Walsall garage when new with 74 branding on

[richie]

Anyone know when they're planning to get rid of the green branding

I saw 4312 and 4314 new parked outside WB in March 2002. The 4312-30 batch were originally intended for the 74 but plans change and they eventually ended up on the 79 which moved to WN in the May 2002 service changes.

Tony, do you have any pictures of this batch with 74 branding before it was replaced with 79 branding?

Hopefully soon the green looks horrible, the grey they used look so much better and part of the livery

I don't think any gained branding, as they moved to Wolverhampton before branding was applied, but I might be wrong.
I think they moved to avoid introducing another vehicle type to West Brom, as Wolverhampton already had Trident's.

I don't have any photos of them with 74 branding on, but they were all parked up at Walsall garage when new with 74 branding on

[Ash]

1532 and 1587 seen in the garage parking area over the road from the actual bus station this afternoon and 1532 looked as if its being stripped down for parts so think both of these buses are now witdraw as buses never seem to be kept here in the daytime.

[Ash]

1698 is parked up infront of the garage with cones around it and what looks like to be an engine fire is very noticable, for me it looks like its ready to be picked up and taken from the garage as where it's parked is in the way to the entry of the garage.

[lynx1103]

451 Service

The 451 was run by Perry Barr until March 1998 then transferred to West Bromwich. As for Dead Milege a lot of Afternoon journeys terminated at Great Barr Scott Arms and started there in the morning going both directions