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Started by Stu, April 09, 2012, 11:24:04 AM

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AndrewLee

Quote from: MW on November 25, 2015, 09:40:25 PM
In that scenario, I press the unread pass button. I think that button is for OAP/Disabled passes, but I don't know what else I'd do.

Anomaly button? Although personally I think Fraud/Anomaly should be two separate buttons!

MW

Quote from: AndrewLee on November 25, 2015, 10:02:09 PM
Anomaly button? Although personally I think Fraud/Anomaly should be two separate buttons!

Nah the Unread passes button. It's the button that you press when the OAP/Disabled passes don't scan properly.

AndrewLee

Quote from: MW on November 25, 2015, 10:09:53 PM
Nah the Unread passes button. It's the button that you press when the OAP/Disabled passes don't scan properly.

The point I'm making is that surely is for unread oap/disabled passes, not for unread smartcards.

MW

Quote from: AndrewLee on November 25, 2015, 10:12:16 PM
The point I'm making is that surely is for unread oap/disabled passes, not for unread smartcards.

Oh yeah sorry. Yeah but that's two buttons to press (three if you've got constant flow of people getting on and need to get to the home screen). I'm joking.

Nah I never thought of that. I use the Fraud/Anomaly button for just when people walk on and don't have any form of pass.

AndrewLee

Quote from: MW on November 25, 2015, 10:16:02 PM
Oh yeah sorry. Yeah but that's two buttons to press (three if you've got constant flow of people getting on and need to get to the home screen). I'm joking.

Nah I never thought of that. I use the Fraud/Anomaly button for just when people walk on and don't have any form of pass.

Most pressed button award goes to...

B.C Driver

Quote from: MW on November 25, 2015, 10:16:02 PM
Oh yeah sorry. Yeah but that's two buttons to press (three if you've got constant flow of people getting on and need to get to the home screen). I'm joking.

Nah I never thought of that. I use the Fraud/Anomaly button for just when people walk on and don't have any form of pass.

I use the engine off switch, has a greater effect :)

Michael Bevan

Quote from: Bham Central Driver on November 26, 2015, 11:59:42 AM
I use the engine off switch, has a greater effect :)

I always notice when a driver does it, for some reason the whole of the bus reacts!  I was on 4824 on the 16 last Saturday with a driver I know and someone tried to get on with an invalid pass. The driver decided to use the 'engine off switch' and well...it caused quite a stir. The guy pretended to not speak English and all the passengers were telling him to get off the bus. It was good fun!  ;)

domino.99

Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 26, 2015, 02:47:57 PM
I always notice when a driver does it, for some reason the whole of the bus reacts!  I was on 4824 on the 16 last Saturday with a driver I know and someone tried to get on with an invalid pass. The driver decided to use the 'engine off switch' and well...it caused quite a stir. The guy pretended to not speak English and all the passengers were telling him to get off the bus. It was good fun!  ;)

Of course the whole bus reacts! Think about it if you have a 5-7 min wait due to a fare dodger why wouldn't they react they are wasting 5 mins sitting there because of one stupid bellend. Don't see how it could be 'good fun' though.

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Dom on November 26, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Of course the whole bus reacts! Think about it if you have a 5-7 min wait due to a fare dodger why wouldn't they react they are wasting 5 mins sitting there because of one stupid bellend. Don't see how it could be 'good fun' though.

No but you can't let them get away with it.
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Quote from: Dom on November 26, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Of course the whole bus reacts! Think about it if you have a 5-7 min wait due to a fare dodger why wouldn't they react they are wasting 5 mins sitting there because of one stupid bellend. Don't see how it could be 'good fun' though.

Well we were two minutes early so it meant we didn't have to sit at Snow Hill waiting. Also it's good fun since I absolutely hate fare dodgers! I hate how they think they are exempt from paying when everyone else has to. Also I was being sarcastic in my first sentence!

domino.99

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 26, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
No but you can't let them get away with it.

I'm not saying you should.

B.C Driver

#86
Does anybody know what to do in this scenario?
A regular passenger (who constantly used to use outdated daysavers) now has a disabled pass, but claims it wont scan. I told him to place it on the reader (to check that is isnt blocked), but it didnt say it was blocked, but neither did it light up green or red.
I explained to him that he needs to get in touch with Centro to get a new one (about 2 months ago), last time he got on was about 2 weeks ago and I explained that this was the last time I would let him off. He got on last night and I told him he needs to pay as he's had plenty of time to get the pass replaced. He got stroppy and got off.... eventually.
There must be a time limit to a pass that doesnt work.
@Tony  @2900    any ideas?

wembley86

Quote from: Bham Central Driver on January 01, 2016, 05:53:52 PM
Does anybody know what to do in this scenario?
A regular passenger (who constantly used to use outdated daysavers) now has a disabled pass, but claims it wont scan. I told him to place it on the reader (to check that is isnt blocked), but it didnt say it was blocked, but neither did it light up green or red.
I explained to him that he needs to get in touch with Centro to get a new one (about 2 months ago), last time he got on was about 2 weeks ago and I explained that this was the last time I would let him off. He got on last night and I told him he needs to pay as he's had plenty of time to get the pass replaced. He got stroppy and got off.... eventually.
There must be a time limit to a pass that doesnt work.
@Tony  @2900    any ideas?

you can easy buy blank id cards ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blank-White-PVC-Plastic-ID-Cards-CR80-30mil-Free-P-P-/141512843185?var=&hash=item20f2d29fb1:m:mf4ZRM2ZFo5aCcKpS46pVjg ) and id printers online and you can produce fake swift bus passes.

Tony

Quote from: Bham Central Driver on January 01, 2016, 05:53:52 PM
Does anybody know what to do in this scenario?
A regular passenger (who constantly used to use outdated daysavers) now has a disabled pass, but claims it wont scan. I told him to place it on the reader (to check that is isnt blocked), but it didnt say it was blocked, but neither did it light up green or red.
I explained to him that he needs to get in touch with Centro to get a new one (about 2 months ago), last time he got on was about 2 weeks ago and I explained that this was the last time I would let him off. He got on last night and I told him he needs to pay as he's had plenty of time to get the pass replaced. He got stroppy and got off.... eventually.
There must be a time limit to a pass that doesnt work.
@Tony  @2900    any ideas?

If this was on the 14 route, I think I know the person, and the pass is fake

Stu

Quote from: Bham Central Driver on January 01, 2016, 05:53:52 PM
Does anybody know what to do in this scenario?
A regular passenger (who constantly used to use outdated daysavers) now has a disabled pass, but claims it wont scan. I told him to place it on the reader (to check that is isnt blocked), but it didnt say it was blocked, but neither did it light up green or red.
I explained to him that he needs to get in touch with Centro to get a new one (about 2 months ago), last time he got on was about 2 weeks ago and I explained that this was the last time I would let him off. He got on last night and I told him he needs to pay as he's had plenty of time to get the pass replaced. He got stroppy and got off.... eventually.
There must be a time limit to a pass that doesnt work.
@Tony  @2900    any ideas?

Not wanting to jump to conclusions here, but if this guy with a history of using 'dodgy' Daysavers now has a disabled pass that 'won't scan' it is probably fake too. And the thing is I've seen drivers let people on with cards that don't scan (as well as drivers who wave them off the bus!) so as long as drivers keep letting him/her 'off' the longer they will get away with it. And if one driver refuses them, they just wait for the next bus in the hope they'll be let on.

With SWIFT starting to take off now, drivers are going to have to be more vigilant if more people are going to try to use blocked/fake smartcards if they think they'll get away with it.
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