Query about "The Rules"

[Ashley]

I know, it was a Pensnett driver at the Wollaston terminus of the 276 who for some reason had to reverse a B6 when he had miles of room and he told the last passenger to get off so he could reverse. I thought has he ever stood in Walsall bus station lol

[BU07 LGO]

It's true! I went in to WB garage with a friend to collect lost property and saw it on the notice board!

[richie]

Theres another rule about passengers not being allowed on vehicles when they are reversing, however that happens quite often

I find that hard to believe, what about places like Hull Interchange where buses must pull into bays and then reverse when loaded, and Digbeth Coach Station (the old temp one, not seen the new one)

I am not 100 percent sure but i think it is against psv rules to reverse with passengers on along the public highway

[x68]

Richie is right Reversing is allowed at bus stations as it is not public highhway but not allowed on public roads

[Tony]

Theres another rule about passengers not being allowed on vehicles when they are reversing, however that happens quite often

I find that hard to believe, what about places like Hull Interchange where buses must pull into bays and then reverse when loaded, and Digbeth Coach Station (the old temp one, not seen the new one)

I am not 100 percent sure but i think it is against psv rules to reverse with passengers on along the public highway

Not quite correct. Reversing is allowed on the public highway as long as there is a conductor, or other competant person at the rear of the vehicle. Several Bus Stations where reversing is done now employ someone to aid reversing, two examples of this in the Midlands are Newcastle under Lyme and Derby

[vinh1000]

Theres another rule about passengers not being allowed on vehicles when they are reversing, however that happens quite often

I find that hard to believe, what about places like Hull Interchange where buses must pull into bays and then reverse when loaded, and Digbeth Coach Station (the old temp one, not seen the new one)

I am not 100 percent sure but i think it is against psv rules to reverse with passengers on along the public highway

Not quite correct. Reversing is allowed on the public highway as long as there is a conductor, or other competant person at the rear of the vehicle. Several Bus Stations where reversing is done now employ someone to aid reversing, two examples of this in the Midlands are Newcastle under Lyme and Derby

Is that why sometimes in city when buses are reversing always an inspector / route manager helping them out?

[Tony]

Theres another rule about passengers not being allowed on vehicles when they are reversing, however that happens quite often

I find that hard to believe, what about places like Hull Interchange where buses must pull into bays and then reverse when loaded, and Digbeth Coach Station (the old temp one, not seen the new one)

I am not 100 percent sure but i think it is against psv rules to reverse with passengers on along the public highway

Not quite correct. Reversing is allowed on the public highway as long as there is a conductor, or other competant person at the rear of the vehicle. Several Bus Stations where reversing is done now employ someone to aid reversing, two examples of this in the Midlands are Newcastle under Lyme and Derby

Is that why sometimes in city when buses are reversing always an inspector / route manager helping them out?

Yes

[j_rp_wright]

Perhaps for buses? But not sure if it's different for coaches as I do many route where you have to reverse to turn around etc... And no one to watch my back.

[Tony]

Perhaps for buses? But not sure if it's different for coaches as I do many route where you have to reverse to turn around etc... And no one to watch my back.

1.8 Reversing
Reversing is a hazardous operation and should only be carried out when there
is no alternative and then for as short a distance as possible. You should never
reverse a vehicle onto a public road unless it is entirely unavoidable and should
never reverse a passenger carrying vehicle which is carrying passengers.
That appears to apply to coaches as well as buses

[Tomjusttom]

Perhaps for buses? But not sure if it's different for coaches as I do many route where you have to reverse to turn around etc... And no one to watch my back.

1.8 Reversing
Reversing is a hazardous operation and should only be carried out when there
is no alternative and then for as short a distance as possible. You should never
reverse a vehicle onto a public road unless it is entirely unavoidable and should
never reverse a passenger carrying vehicle which is carrying passengers.
That appears to apply to coaches as well as buses

Try telling that to Stagecoach! It's part of one of the routes down in Canterbury where a (usually) Volvo Olympian has to reverse into another road then continue back going along the way he came! Service 11 Canterbury to Westwood Bus Depot in a place called Wickhambeaux.

To clarify i have attached a map of the area. The bus comes along Nargate Street/Wickham Road then continues along. The road then becomes Grove Road. It then reverses into Wickham Court Lane then turns right then hrads along Wickham Lane to Ickham and Wingham.

[Tony]

Last time I was down there it just went around the triangle in the town centre to turn around

[richie]

Can't remember the road name but it was on the 4 in Coventry in the stoke aldermoor area near to the Peugeot factory 9 times out of ten you would always meet the 4 coming the other way and have to reverse back out the road

[Tony]

Perhaps for buses? But not sure if it's different for coaches as I do many route where you have to reverse to turn around etc... And no one to watch my back.

1.8 Reversing
Reversing is a hazardous operation and should only be carried out when there
is no alternative and then for as short a distance as possible. You should never
reverse a vehicle onto a public road unless it is entirely unavoidable and should
never reverse a passenger carrying vehicle which is carrying passengers.
That appears to apply to coaches as well as buses

Try telling that to Stagecoach! It's part of one of the routes down in Canterbury where a (usually) Volvo Olympian has to reverse into another road then continue back going along the way he came! Service 11 Canterbury to Westwood Bus Depot in a place called Wickhambeaux.

To clarify i have attached a map of the area. The bus comes along Nargate Street/Wickham Road then continues along. The road then becomes Grove Road. It then reverses into Wickham Court Lane then turns right then hrads along Wickham Lane to Ickham and Wingham.

It is registered to come up Wickham Road, around the triangle at the top of Wickham Road, back onto Wickham Road, left onto Wickham Lane. Not go up Grove Lane. The bus stop in the village is outside the Rose Public House which is on the top of the Triangle. Whether part of the triangle was closed causing the diversion you are referring to I don't know, but it is not a regular reversal. I don't believe VOSA would accept a reversal on a registration unless there was assistance or it was not a 'one man operated route'

[Tomjusttom]

Perhaps for buses? But not sure if it's different for coaches as I do many route where you have to reverse to turn around etc... And no one to watch my back.

1.8 Reversing
Reversing is a hazardous operation and should only be carried out when there
is no alternative and then for as short a distance as possible. You should never
reverse a vehicle onto a public road unless it is entirely unavoidable and should
never reverse a passenger carrying vehicle which is carrying passengers.
That appears to apply to coaches as well as buses

Try telling that to Stagecoach! It's part of one of the routes down in Canterbury where a (usually) Volvo Olympian has to reverse into another road then continue back going along the way he came! Service 11 Canterbury to Westwood Bus Depot in a place called Wickhambeaux.

To clarify i have attached a map of the area. The bus comes along Nargate Street/Wickham Road then continues along. The road then becomes Grove Road. It then reverses into Wickham Court Lane then turns right then hrads along Wickham Lane to Ickham and Wingham.

It is registered to come up Wickham Road, around the triangle at the top of Wickham Road, back onto Wickham Road, left onto Wickham Lane. Not go up Grove Lane. The bus stop in the village is outside the Rose Public House which is on the top of the Triangle. Whether part of the triangle was closed causing the diversion you are referring to I don't know, but it is not a regular reversal. I don't believe VOSA would accept a reversal on a registration unless there was assistance or it was not a 'one man operated route'

How come over the last 4 years it had done what i descried as current service 11 and its previous incarnation the 622. And no the triangle had not been shut. And i should know this as whenever i am in that area i have deliberately caught it.

[Tony]

Perhaps for buses? But not sure if it's different for coaches as I do many route where you have to reverse to turn around etc... And no one to watch my back.

1.8 Reversing
Reversing is a hazardous operation and should only be carried out when there
is no alternative and then for as short a distance as possible. You should never
reverse a vehicle onto a public road unless it is entirely unavoidable and should
never reverse a passenger carrying vehicle which is carrying passengers.
That appears to apply to coaches as well as buses

Try telling that to Stagecoach! It's part of one of the routes down in Canterbury where a (usually) Volvo Olympian has to reverse into another road then continue back going along the way he came! Service 11 Canterbury to Westwood Bus Depot in a place called Wickhambeaux.

To clarify i have attached a map of the area. The bus comes along Nargate Street/Wickham Road then continues along. The road then becomes Grove Road. It then reverses into Wickham Court Lane then turns right then hrads along Wickham Lane to Ickham and Wingham.

It is registered to come up Wickham Road, around the triangle at the top of Wickham Road, back onto Wickham Road, left onto Wickham Lane. Not go up Grove Lane. The bus stop in the village is outside the Rose Public House which is on the top of the Triangle. Whether part of the triangle was closed causing the diversion you are referring to I don't know, but it is not a regular reversal. I don't believe VOSA would accept a reversal on a registration unless there was assistance or it was not a 'one man operated route'

How come over the last 4 years it had done what i descried as current service 11 and its previous incarnation the 622. And no the triangle had not been shut. And i should know this as whenever i am in that area i have deliberately caught it.

Click on this link http://www.travelfor.co.uk/Kent/Wickhambreaux/
and the little map that appears will show you every single bus stop in Kent, last one is on the triangle. I did get the route map up yesterday as well, but cannot find it again today