Service Changes February 2025

Westy · February 16, 2025, 05:28:40 PM

I'm surprised they didn't find a way of extending the 52 to & from Walsall, running it in conjunction with the 51?

Looking at Google Maps, it would've come off Walsall Road, Booths Farm Road, Turnberry Road, Beeches Road, back onto Walsall Road presumbly?

Tony · February 16, 2025, 05:35:52 PM

Quote from: Westy on February 16, 2025, 05:28:40 PMI'm surprised they didn't find a way of extending the 52 to & from Walsall, running it in conjunction with the 51?

Looking at Google Maps, it would've come off Walsall Road, Booths Farm Road, Turnberry Road, Beeches Road, back onto Walsall Road presumbly?

Again, see my comment before about it needing to be a single deck operated route.

jamesX4 · February 16, 2025, 07:06:47 PM

Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2025, 05:35:52 PMAgain, see my comment before about it needing to be a single deck operated route.

Ok, based on people suggesting to the NX experts how to run their buses. I have looked at the TfWM Birmingham area map and the NX route map for the 52, in conjunction with Google maps! Why not merge the 52 with the single deck 28?

Tony · February 16, 2025, 07:29:33 PM

Quote from: jamesX4 on February 16, 2025, 07:06:47 PMOk, based on people suggesting to the NX experts how to run their buses. I have looked at the TfWM Birmingham area map and the NX route map for the 52, in conjunction with Google maps! Why not merge the 52 with the single deck 28?

Both are run by PB, so how does that benefit this change?

Steve3229vp · February 16, 2025, 07:40:44 PM

Quote from: jamesX4 on February 16, 2025, 07:06:47 PMOk, based on people suggesting to the NX experts how to run their buses. I have looked at the TfWM Birmingham area map and the NX route map for the 52, in conjunction with Google maps! Why not merge the 52 with the single deck 28?

How would you do that ?
How would the Scott Arms be served ?
What about Losells and City ?
Their frequencies don't match either

Westy · February 16, 2025, 07:47:59 PM

Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2025, 05:35:52 PMAgain, see my comment before about it needing to be a single deck operated route.

I'm not too familiar with the route south of Perry Barr, so I take it there's a low bridge somewhere between there & the City Centre?

jamesX4 · February 16, 2025, 07:57:17 PM

Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 16, 2025, 07:40:44 PMHow would you do that ?
How would the Scott Arms be served ?
What about Losells and City ?
Their frequencies don't match either

I have no idea re. your 4 questions.
My comment started, "Ok, based on people suggesting to the NX experts how to run their buses." Intended to come across as a facetious comment, as I am sure that NX experts know far more than most who comment here.

2206 · February 16, 2025, 08:42:44 PM

Quote from: Westy on February 16, 2025, 07:47:59 PMI'm not too familiar with the route south of Perry Barr, so I take it there's a low bridge somewhere between there & the City Centre?

No there's not.

I think Tony means Perry Barr will be transferring a number of Scania Single Deckers to West Brom along with the 52. As WB can't operate electric double decks. & therefore it had to be a single deck route transferring out.

Ingleboro261F · February 17, 2025, 05:50:40 AM

Quote from: 2206 on February 16, 2025, 08:42:44 PMNo there's not.

I think Tony means Perry Barr will be transferring a number of Scania Single Deckers to West Brom along with the 52. As WB can't operate electric double decks. & therefore it had to be a single deck route transferring out.

Why can't WB operate electric DDs?

Zander · February 17, 2025, 06:38:55 AM

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on February 17, 2025, 05:50:40 AMWhy can't WB operate electric DDs?

No charging equipment or infrastructure at WB

Wumpty · February 17, 2025, 07:08:30 AM

Quote from: jamesX4 on February 16, 2025, 07:06:47 PMOk, based on people suggesting to the NX experts how to run their buses. I have looked at the TfWM Birmingham area map and the NX route map for the 52, in conjunction with Google maps! Why not merge the 52 with the single deck 28?

Merging routes that have their own complications and intricacies will immediately cause reliability issues.

Westy · February 17, 2025, 10:36:10 AM

I guess moving the 28 & 28a & extending those to start from West Brom is a non starter?

The length for one, & ISTR the 28's have or have had serious reliability issues in the past, I believe.

Lukeee · February 17, 2025, 01:59:23 PM

Quote from: Westy on February 17, 2025, 10:36:10 AMI guess moving the 28 & 28a & extending those to start from West Brom is a non starter?

The length for one, & ISTR the 28's have or have had serious reliability issues in the past, I believe.

I haven't used the 28 for a few years now but I know the route it takes down the Chester road can get congested

BBS · February 17, 2025, 10:12:24 PM

QuoteI guess moving the 28 & 28a & extending those to start from West Brom is a non starter?

The length for one, & ISTR the 28's have or have had serious reliability issues in the past, I believe.

Didn't the 28 go to small heath?

2206 · February 17, 2025, 10:30:22 PM

Quote from: BBS on February 17, 2025, 10:12:24 PMDidn't the 28 go to small heath?

Until 31st December 2022 yes.

The daytimes Ward End to Small Heath became the 24 & operated by Lea Hall metrobuses, then 98, 28A and latterly 93.
NX continued to run evenings & Sundays as the 28.
diamond ran the 28A from Redditch as well for a few years.

I read as well before 1980 it ran into the City Centre.
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