Service Changes February 2025

[2206]

And yes, I can't see regular passengers being impressed by having brand new electrics replaced with older diesels! (But I suppose any bus is better than no bus, and all that)

The 52 at PB has diesel Scanias on it nearly everyday Monday to Friday and there's nothing wrong with E400s either.

[Jack]

The 52 at PB has diesel Scanias on it nearly everyday Monday to Friday and there's nothing wrong with E400s either.

The 52 gets whatever goes. The Electrics are nice but the seating downstairs is naff and not popular with passengers so the Diesals will be welcome back. Won't be surprised to see an E200 turn up at some point.

I saw a comment about dead mileage, WB run dead to and from Kingstanding and Sutton, so Great Barr is nothing for them.

[EK40]

The 52 gets whatever goes. The Electrics are nice but the seating downstairs is naff and not popular with passengers so the Diesals will be welcome back. Won't be surprised to see an E200 turn up at some point.

I saw a comment about dead mileage, WB run dead to and from Kingstanding and Sutton, so Great Barr is nothing for them.

no way that anyone would rather have an E400 over the new electrics, especially if it interworks with the 74, the interior on most of those red/white E400s are nasty.

basically everyone i know welcomed the electrics over the 66 plates we had on the sutton lines even, from a passenger POV the electrics are miles ahead, with the LCD interior displays, improved seating, USB A/C charging and the aircon they have (ik its a blower system), not even mentioning the other passenger comforts you get with an EV.

[D10]

Don't take this as gospel but apparently the 52 will interwork with the 74 ie when an interworking 74 reaches city it will then turn into a 52 to PB and back, then 74 back to WB. What's amusing is how the passengers will go from brand new electrics back to the plethora of ex PB hand-me-downs that WB got.

What a load of absolute rubbish you are talking.

For one thing there is more than a slight difference in the frequencies of the 2 routes as well as others have mentioned, the city terminal points being different.

[Tony]

What a load of absolute rubbish you are talking.

For one thing there is more than a slight difference in the frequencies of the 2 routes as well as others have mentioned, the city terminal points being different.

The main fact the 52 was chosen to go to WB was because it was nominally a single deck route, interworking with the 74 would completely contradict the reason it moved

[BBS]

I can sort of understand the 3/3A going to Pensnett, as they lost some work start of this year and presumably have spare vehicles.

But I can't see the logic of the 52 going to West Brom myself, unless they're going to (somehow) interwork it with another city service, will be a lot more dead mileage involved than running it out of Perry Barr.
You'll probably end up with Scanias again!

I expected the 101 to end up at West Bromwich to be fair 

[ZF B7]

What a load of absolute rubbish you are talking.

For one thing there is more than a slight difference in the frequencies of the 2 routes as well as others have mentioned, the city terminal points being different.

Obviously not every 74 you idiot. Read what I wrote again. It says "interworking 74" not every 74.

Some of the 74 drivers are on a 4 day rota, that is what the 52 will apparently be apart of.

[D10]

Obviously not every 74 you idiot. Read what I wrote again. It says "interworking 74" not every 74.

No sorry, you're the idiot for posting preposterous things that are never going to happen.

And if you have ever scheduled then you'd know how difficult it would be to interwork buses and drivers between a 5 and 20 minute service.

[Tony]

I expected the 101 to end up at West Bromwich to be fair

How would that work, What buses?

[ZF B7]

No sorry, you're the idiot for posting preposterous things that are never going to happen.

And if you have ever scheduled then you'd know how difficult it would be to interwork buses and drivers between a 5 and 20 minute service.

Again, not every 74. And I doubt its rocket science to interwork them. I don't see what's "preposterous" about it. They can easily move the 52's terminus to the 74 one and change timetable if need be. All information I gathered is from colleagues, I work for the company unlike keyboard warriors like you

[D10]

Again, not every 74. And I doubt its rocket science to interwork them. I don't see what's "preposterous" about it. They can easily move the 52's terminus to the 74 one and change timetable if need be. All information I gathered is from colleagues, I work for the company unlike keyboard warriors like you

Erm I do work for the company too and all the signs are that there will be no interworking of the 52 with anything, it will work on it's own Running Boards when it transfers over.

[BBS]

How would that work, What buses?

I never said I want it to work though? I just said I expected that to head to WB rather than 52

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

Wasn't the 52 run from Walsall at some point can't be much more dead mileage from WA to Great Barr/Perry Barr than from WB to Great Barr/Perry Barr

[2206]

Wasn't the 52 run from Walsall at some point can't be much more dead mileage from WA to Great Barr/Perry Barr than from WB to Great Barr/Perry Barr

I think it was in the early 2000s & the 952 ran from Walsall as well during 2018.
Before the current incarnation of the route via Lozells though (old 46).
Tony's bottom pictures of 4307/8/9 are on there when at Walsall.

[Jack]

I think it was in the early 2000s & the 952 ran from Walsall as well during 2018.
Before the current incarnation of the route via Lozells though (old 46).
Tony's bottom pictures of 4307/8/9 are on there when at Walsall.

The 52 was at Walsall till at least 2005. Tony has a photo of WA B6 on the 52 back in 2005, can't remember which one. WA's Tridents and Presidents was the main allocation. Then it went back to PB and it was a mixture of B7TL's and Metrobuses.

Then the 952 in its final few months was WA.