Fare rise and ticket changes July 2023

[ellspurs]

I am under the impression that the nBus £4.50 day ticket is valid on - and can be purchased on - all participating operators in the nBus area (which itself is unchanged), plus all NX West Midlands and NX Coventry bus services in and beyond the nBus area.
Is this correct?

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/tickets-prices/single-trips-day-tickets

I would say that is correct.

[Michael Bevan]

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/tickets-prices/single-trips-day-tickets

I would say that is correct.

Reading on that link you sent @ellspurs, it looks like they've updated the section for travel "outside the nBus area" complete with an updated map dated July 2023...

[Stu]

Reading on that link you sent @ellspurs, it looks like they've updated the section for travel "outside the nBus area" complete with an updated map dated July 2023...

Adult NX Day Saver extra ticket

Tickets for any National Express bus service that travels to, from or between locations outside the nBus zone. These tickets are only valid on National Express bus services.

So if you want to travel from Lichfield to Kings Heath, you have to buy a £4.50 Daysaver Extra from Lichfield, then you have to pay again to travel on a Diamond 50? Or does the above only refer to NX Bus services 'outside the nBus zone'?

Surely it would have been more straightforward to just extend the nBus zone?

[Rachvince53]

Can you buy a 1 day N-bus in Cannock on X51?

Yes. From the 3rd July 2023, the nBus area was expanded to include areas such as Cannock and Bromsgrove.  Please note certain routes operated by other companies are not included as they pass through areas not included in the expanded area. 

[Stu]

Yes. From the 3rd July 2023, the nBus area was expanded to include areas such as Cannock and Bromsgrove.  Please note certain routes operated by other companies are not included as they pass through areas not included in the expanded area.

I don't know where you got that from but it appears to be incorrect now.

[ellspurs]

If you purchased a paper £4.50 nBus day ticket from the NX bus in Lichfield, then surely that'd be valid on the 50 Diamond?

Or does the paper ticket not say nBus on it.

From Diamond's FAQ:

"If you are using the National Express app – tickets showing the purple nBus logo will be accepted on other operators services. These currently do not scan on other operators ticket machines and should be shown to the driver to check they are valid."

It depends on whether the NX ticket says "Daysaver plus" or "nbus" on it.

[mesub]

Okay so what seems to be the verdict???

[Westy]

I'm confused.

Am I paying twice for a trip from Bloxwich to Lichfield, if I'm A) using one of these £4.50 day tickets, B) The regional Nbus pass, that has replaced my Walsall Low Fare Nbus pass or not?

[ellspurs]

Westy, if you're travelling on NX to Lichfield, you'd only need to use (B). If you're travelling on Diamond to Lichfield, then you'd need (A).

[2206]

Westy, if you're travelling on NX to Lichfield, you'd only need to use (B). If you're travelling on Diamond to Lichfield, then you'd need (A).

I thought neither the £4.50 daysaver or N Bus is valid on any Diamond services in the Lichfield area.

Would a £4.50 dayticket purchased on a Diamond Bus be valid on the X13 to Coleshill/X3 to Lichfield or only those purchased on an NX bus?

[Bob]

Yes, just buy a paper £4.50 day ticket off the driver and it is valid on all NX buses including out to Cannock and all other operators within the West Midlands County

Can you pay by debit card and still get a printed ticket?

[Westy]

I thought neither the £4.50 daysaver or N Bus is valid on any Diamond services in the Lichfield area.

Would a £4.50 dayticket purchased on a Diamond Bus be valid on the X13 to Coleshill/X3 to Lichfield or only those purchased on an NX bus?

Must admit, that's what I initially thought.

What is now the Regional Nbus pass, is only valid on Nx bus outside the Wm county, so I  could use service 8 to Lichfield & X51 to Cannock, but people in Brownhills couldn't go to Cannock on Chaserider 3!

(Just thought.

Chaserider had enough issues recognising an Nbus ticket, when it wasn't printed on one of their own tickets. 

God help the passengers on Service 35 who use an Nx or Diamond service first, to link to it!)

[Tony]

Can you pay by debit card and still get a printed ticket?

Yes, as long as you ask the driver for the ticket you want before putting the card near the scanner

[Rachvince53]

From what I understand,  the nBus area has been expanded to include the area served by NX and NXC. However certain routes operated by other companies pass through areas not covered. For example Kevs 318 while linking Stourbridge and Bromsgrove which ARE  in the nBus area, pass through parts of Worcestershire which are not within the expanded area and thus the nBus isn't valid for travel right through, only the bit within the West Midlands.  

For clarity I would contact the operator. 

[Tony]

From what I understand,  the nBus area has been expanded to include the area served by NX and NXC. However certain routes operated by other companies pass through areas not covered. For example Kevs 318 while linking Stourbridge and Bromsgrove which ARE  in the nBus area, pass through parts of Worcestershire which are not within the expanded area and thus the nBus isn't valid for travel right through, only the bit within the West Midlands. 

For clarity I would contact the operator.

The nBus hasn't expanded at all. It is just NX decided to accept it on their services